Ash Wed, mandatory church day?

[Buttzilla]

no priest around for me to ask but wondering if ash wed is a mandatory church day. anyone? also, can you eat seafood? i know your not suppose to eat meat, beef, chicken, pork etc. but what about fish, crab...and oooh lobster?

 

[FoBoT]

you missed it, that was a couple days ago

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you missed it, that was a couple days ago

lol

 

[Buttzilla]

i know, i didn't go. my housemate just brought it up and i was just curious. not much of a hardcore catholic.

 

[DnetMHZ]

All I know is, tonight is a good time to hit a steak house!

 

[FoBoT]

Both fast and abstinence are required on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. For the record, rules of the Church in the United States about fasting and abstinence in effect since 1966 state that:

"Catholics in the United States are obliged to abstain from the eating of meat on Ash Wednesday and on all Fridays during the season of Lent. They are also obliged to fast on Ash Wednesday and on Good Friday. Self-imposed observance of fasting on all weekdays of Lent is strongly recommended. Abstinence from flesh meat on all Fridays of the year [excluding solemnities like Christmas which may fall on Friday] is especially recommended to individuals and to the Catholic community as a whole." (ref. Canons 1249-1253, Code of Canon Law)

http://www.wf-f.org/AshWed.html

 

[Injury]

Ash Wednesday is not a holy day of obligation.

However, Catholics are(were) supposed to fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, and encouraged to also do it on Fridays during Lent.

Fasting is more of a personal opinion, but typically it's abstaining from eating any red meat, drinking, and only having one meal during the course of the entire day. There are people who are a bit more strict about it and people who are a bit more lax, but either way the decision should be personal as the goal is to bring you closer to God, not to appease others.

 

[Kadarin]

Did Jesus advocate any of this, or were these rules that were set down later on by the Catholic Church? I have a feeling Jesus himself would disapprove of such "requirements".

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Did Jesus advocate any of this, or were these rules that were set down later on by the Catholic Church? I have a feeling Jesus himself would disapprove of such "requirements".

Why do you have the "feeling"?
These "requirements" (mind you many are more like guidelines and suggestions) were set (and changed) by The Popes through the course of the years. The Pope (as far as Catholics are concerned) IS the voice of God on earth more or less.

I do enjoy the Troll attempt.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Did Jesus advocate any of this, or were these rules that were set down later on by the Catholic Church? I have a feeling Jesus himself would disapprove of such "requirements".

Against my better judgment I'm going to reply to your obvious trolling but if there's no good reason to call yourself Catholic if you don't agree with the ideas that leaders of the church have set forth.

It's not like they just pulled this stuff out of thin air. If Jesus died for us, the least we can do is follow a little closer in his footsteps a few days out of the year.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Injury
It's not like they just pulled this stuff out of thin air.

Well.. I'm not going to touch that one

As someone raised Catholic who went to church every Sunday I find it funny that this is all news to me.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Both fast and abstinence are required on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. For the record, rules of the Church in the United States about fasting and abstinence in effect since 1966 state that:

"Catholics in the United States are obliged to abstain from the eating of meat on Ash Wednesday and on all Fridays during the season of Lent. They are also obliged to fast on Ash Wednesday and on Good Friday. Self-imposed observance of fasting on all weekdays of Lent is strongly recommended. Abstinence from flesh meat on all Fridays of the year [excluding solemnities like Christmas which may fall on Friday] is especially recommended to individuals and to the Catholic community as a whole." (ref. Canons 1249-1253, Code of Canon Law)

http://www.wf-f.org/AshWed.html

I don't know what kind of whack job site that is, but I've never heard in my upbringing as a Catholic about not eating meat on ALL Fridays throughout the year. Just during Lent.

 

[NanoStuff]

Fun fact: Jesus is a member of NAMBLA.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Did Jesus advocate any of this, or were these rules that were set down later on by the Catholic Church? I have a feeling Jesus himself would disapprove of such "requirements".

Against my better judgment I'm going to reply to your obvious trolling but if there's no good reason to call yourself Catholic if you don't agree with the ideas that leaders of the church have set forth.

It's not like they just pulled this stuff out of thin air. If Jesus died for us, the least we can do is follow a little closer in his footsteps a few days out of the year.

The point I'm trying to make is that the Catholic Church may have instituted various practices for their own reasons which likely have little to do with what Jesus himself taught. If they did, then the question I ask is whether those practices really matter to God.

Many will argue that the Pope is God's representative on Earth. What would Jesus think about that? What would God think about that, particularly when guys like Alexander VI headed the Church? Infallible?

Are we supposd to follow tradition because "it's the least we can do", or are we supposed to follow what Jesus taught?

 

[aplefka]

Silly Catholics. Step it up and fast for all of lent like your other Eastern lung does. Oh, and every Wednesday and Friday of the year almost.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: DnetMHZ
All I know is, tonight is a good time to hit a steak house!

Every Friday should be a steak night. :thumbsup:

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Both fast and abstinence are required on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. For the record, rules of the Church in the United States about fasting and abstinence in effect since 1966 state that:

"Catholics in the United States are obliged to abstain from the eating of meat on Ash Wednesday and on all Fridays during the season of Lent. They are also obliged to fast on Ash Wednesday and on Good Friday. Self-imposed observance of fasting on all weekdays of Lent is strongly recommended. Abstinence from flesh meat on all Fridays of the year [excluding solemnities like Christmas which may fall on Friday] is especially recommended to individuals and to the Catholic community as a whole." (ref. Canons 1249-1253, Code of Canon Law)

http://www.wf-f.org/AshWed.html

I don't know what kind of whack job site that is, but I've never heard in my upbringing as a Catholic about not eating meat on ALL Fridays throughout the year. Just during Lent.

It's a much older tradition that was more typical in Europe but was never really practiced over this way. It's also all Wednesdays for some of them.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: Kadarin
Did Jesus advocate any of this, or were these rules that were set down later on by the Catholic Church? I have a feeling Jesus himself would disapprove of such "requirements".

Against my better judgment I'm going to reply to your obvious trolling but if there's no good reason to call yourself Catholic if you don't agree with the ideas that leaders of the church have set forth.

It's not like they just pulled this stuff out of thin air. If Jesus died for us, the least we can do is follow a little closer in his footsteps a few days out of the year.

The point I'm trying to make is that the Catholic Church may have instituted various practices for their own reasons which likely have little to do with what Jesus himself taught. If they did, then the question I ask is whether those practices really matter to God.

Many will argue that the Pope is God's representative on Earth. What would Jesus think about that? What would God think about that, particularly when guys like Alexander VI headed the Church? Infallible?

Are we supposd to follow tradition because "it's the least we can do", or are we supposed to follow what Jesus taught?

Perhaps you should re-read my first reply in this thread as your question was answered before you even asked it.

 

[Colt45]

shit, there's still catholics that observe the rules?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Colt45
shit, there's still catholics that observe the rules?

Yes there are.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Injury


It's not like they just pulled this stuff out of thin air. If Jesus died for us, the least we can do is follow a little closer in his footsteps a few days out of the year.

Wow, the irony in those 2 sentences is unbelievable.

 

[Sqube]

So wait... you couldn't be bothered to sit in a church for an hour, but you're going to fast? Intriguing.

/Catholic
//Observant
///Was at Ash Wednesday Mass
////Almost lost track of the number of slashies I was using!

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Both fast and abstinence are required on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. For the record, rules of the Church in the United States about fasting and abstinence in effect since 1966 state that:

"Catholics in the United States are obliged to abstain from the eating of meat on Ash Wednesday and on all Fridays during the season of Lent. They are also obliged to fast on Ash Wednesday and on Good Friday. Self-imposed observance of fasting on all weekdays of Lent is strongly recommended. Abstinence from flesh meat on all Fridays of the year [excluding solemnities like Christmas which may fall on Friday] is especially recommended to individuals and to the Catholic community as a whole." (ref. Canons 1249-1253, Code of Canon Law)

http://www.wf-f.org/AshWed.html

I don't know what kind of whack job site that is, but I've never heard in my upbringing as a Catholic about not eating meat on ALL Fridays throughout the year. Just during Lent.

Oh I wish I would have seen this before posting what I did. See my post above this.

 

[Bibble]

Although I hadn't gone to church in a month or so, I did go to church on Ash Wednesday to get my ashes. Also, I did fast until I got out of church, not so much because I wanted to but because I didn't have time to eat lunch. Of course, I probably won't go to mass again until March...