News asetek aio patent expired, possibly selling off consumer division and shifting to servers.

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Is this going to unblock actual improvements though? Seems like thicker, higher quality radiators, higher pump flowrates, and better fin core designs weren't impeded by their patents.
 

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The mythical savings passed on to consumer rerears it's vacuous head again!
 
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i am frankly underwhelmed by AIOs in general. I mean, the performance, it's good, i don't deny it.

But i was expecting something of a MASSIVE difference. Something with balls. Like a 4-inch tube and a roaring torrent of water, subzero temps. Instead they are these limp, cheaply constructed solutions that really do not inspire me to think we're pushing the technology to its limit.

idk, heat is in the core? why not remove the core from the mobo, linking it via extended connection, and cooling the cpu in a separate environment. Ok maybe that's a bit too extreme, but essentially we are still prisoners of a legacy layout of PCs from the middle ages.

For example. We have the GPUs output heat from the back of the case. And the I/O is also on the back of the case. This means there's a ton of holes .. in the back of the case .. but the only way to really move air, is to have a SEALED compartment so ALL of the air is pulled outside. Why can't i have a PC that has a vent tube just like any normal HVAC system.

Of course this isn't a everyday solution, you would need to install the PC in a special case, but nobody offers this, nobody is even considering this. There would be no issue having machines with 60 performance cores if we could just get rid of the damn heat. Datacenters do this already, do i need to buy myself a damn datacentre to play oblivion remastered?


sorry, im in a ranting mood.
 
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fun fact, swiftech came out with that technology before asetek did, but never patented it.
And lost in court even when trying to prove they came out with the design before Asetek did.

This is why i hate Asetek, and try at every corner to avoid them and all AIO's.

i am frankly underwhelmed by AIOs in general. I mean, the performance, it's good, i don't deny it.

But i was expecting something of a MASSIVE difference. Something with balls. Like a 4-inch tube and a roaring torrent of water, subzero temps. Instead they are these limp, cheaply constructed solutions that really do not inspire me to think we're pushing the technology to its limit.

idk, heat is in the core? why not remove the core from the mobo, linking it via extended connection, and cooling the cpu in a separate environment. Ok maybe that's a bit too extreme, but essentially we are still prisoners of a legacy layout of PCs from the middle ages.

For example. We have the GPUs output heat from the back of the case. And the I/O is also on the back of the case. This means there's a ton of holes .. in the back of the case .. but the only way to really move air, is to have a SEALED compartment so ALL of the air is pulled outside. Why can't i have a PC that has a vent tube just like any normal HVAC system.

Of course this isn't a everyday solution, you would need to install the PC in a special case, but nobody offers this, nobody is even considering this. There would be no issue having machines with 60 performance cores if we could just get rid of the damn heat. Datacenters do this already, do i need to buy myself a damn datacentre to play oblivion remastered?


sorry, im in a ranting mood.

Because if you want all that the cost of such a system goes up exponentially.
I used to be in that catigory where my liquid cooling system costed more then my computer system.
I had at one point 4 radiators, 4 water pumps, almost 1.5gal of coolant all running though a mountain mods U2 with a extended pedistool on top. 3 water cooling loops, and lets not get started on how many fittings i still have from those days.

Also you need to remember the rules of thermodynamics.
Water can only absorb so much heat and can never break that wall of ambient.
Your at the resistance potential of copper or silver even in the heat transfer from source to water.
Sure you can put energy into the system with a phase change material and a compressor, or using TEC modules, which i have done both, but they cost a significant amount of power.

AIO was intended to save cost, and try to get as much as possible within a set budget.

Again swiftech came out with a direct drive cpu pump, a ways back before Asetek even had, where you could just throw on a radiator and T-line the loop, but Gabe never patented it, because it was during the glory days of watercooling, where people would take other designs and try to innovate. Asetek was known in our community as the greedy (BEEP) and that is why AIO's never really developed or innovated like a real custom water cooling setups did with bridges, distribution hubs, and the gazillion fittings u can buy today.
 
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