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As if the RIGHT needs any help to look sane

imported_Shivetya

Platinum Member
http://www.rosie.com/blog/

for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble

hold on folks
here we go

? The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
? Silverstein said to the fire department commander ?the smartest thing to do is pull it.?
? Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to ?blow up?.
? The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
? Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.



Scroll down to where she discusses the WTC issue.

I guess Rosie just wants to make all left wingers look like loonies. She has a lot of influence because of her TV presence as well as national exposure through other means.

So basically eveel corporate types engineered this all to stuff investigations into their wrong doing....

I guess they are going to be eveel because she's going to get her walking papers soon for being such a loon.

Just when you think the RIGHT has cornered the market we get prime type Rosie O to prove otherwise
 
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," and why are you browsing her blog in the first place? By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers" when she calls the 9/11 widows "grieferazzi" and calls John Edwards a "lovely human." At least Coulter, unlike Rosie O'Donnell, makes her living as a political pundit, and enjoys a sizable audience in doing so.

Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.
 
Originally posted by: Shivetya
http://www.rosie.com/blog/

for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble

hold on folks
here we go

? The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
? Silverstein said to the fire department commander ?the smartest thing to do is pull it.?
? Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to ?blow up?.
? The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
? Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.



Scroll down to where she discusses the WTC issue.

I guess Rosie just wants to make all left wingers look like loonies. She has a lot of influence because of her TV presence as well as national exposure through other means.

So basically eveel corporate types engineered this all to stuff investigations into their wrong doing....

I guess they are going to be eveel because she's going to get her walking papers soon for being such a loon.

Just when you think the RIGHT has cornered the market we get prime type Rosie O to prove otherwise

Think how stupid you will look when the truth comes out.
 
Rosie is a crass, loudmouth, and ignorant talk show host not an engineer. I'd give her about the same consideration on this subject as if a bum walked up to me on the street and started to lecture me on it.

I don't think she represents what people refer to as the "Left" on this board any more than the hateful attention seeking sewage Ann Coulter spews out of her own pie hole represents the "Right". (as DonVito pointed out).
 
Originally posted by: ebaycj
Originally posted by: Shivetya
http://www.rosie.com/blog/

for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble

hold on folks
here we go

? The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
? Silverstein said to the fire department commander ?the smartest thing to do is pull it.?
? Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to ?blow up?.
? The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
? Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.



Scroll down to where she discusses the WTC issue.

I guess Rosie just wants to make all left wingers look like loonies. She has a lot of influence because of her TV presence as well as national exposure through other means.

So basically eveel corporate types engineered this all to stuff investigations into their wrong doing....

I guess they are going to be eveel because she's going to get her walking papers soon for being such a loon.

Just when you think the RIGHT has cornered the market we get prime type Rosie O to prove otherwise

Think how stupid you will look when the truth comes out.
oh boy... We've got another one folks!

Captain, the tinfoil deathrays are ready to fire on your command...
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What's scary for the Republicans is that Rosie in all her nutiness is extremely popular with Women

It's not scary, it's nauseating.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," and why are you browsing her blog in the first place? By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers" when she calls the 9/11 widows "grieferazzi" and calls John Edwards a "lovely human." At least Coulter, unlike Rosie O'Donnell, makes her living as a political pundit, and enjoys a sizable audience in doing so.

Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.


I think "desperate" is a better description.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," and why are you browsing her blog in the first place? By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers" when she calls the 9/11 widows "grieferazzi" and calls John Edwards a "lovely human." At least Coulter, unlike Rosie O'Donnell, makes her living as a political pundit, and enjoys a sizable audience in doing so.

Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.


I think "desperate" is a better description.

Hehe, I like both.


 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," and why are you browsing her blog in the first place? By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers" when she calls the 9/11 widows "grieferazzi" and calls John Edwards a "lovely human." At least Coulter, unlike Rosie O'Donnell, makes her living as a political pundit, and enjoys a sizable audience in doing so.

Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.


I think "desperate" is a better description.

Hehe, I like both.


Wow, Moonbeam calling someone elses posts bizarre....
 
Originally posted by: Shivetya
http://www.rosie.com/blog/

for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble

hold on folks
here we go

? The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
? Silverstein said to the fire department commander ?the smartest thing to do is pull it.?
? Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to ?blow up?.
? The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
? Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.



Scroll down to where she discusses the WTC issue.

I guess Rosie just wants to make all left wingers look like loonies. She has a lot of influence because of her TV presence as well as national exposure through other means.

So basically eveel corporate types engineered this all to stuff investigations into their wrong doing....

I guess they are going to be eveel because she's going to get her walking papers soon for being such a loon.

Just when you think the RIGHT has cornered the market we get prime type Rosie O to prove otherwise

Shiv, please get a job and stop watching the View, your manhood hangs in the balance.
 
So... would people like to stop flaming each other and start actually talking about the issue brought up in the post (the important issue, that is) ? Is it possible that the govt brought down the building?
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," ... ?
QFT! Rosie's her own personal nut case. She doesn't speak for anyone but herself and anyone who chooses to associate themselves with her own weirdness.
Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.
Just more evidence that he's full of bull Shivetya. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Rosie is a crass, loudmouth, and ignorant talk show host not an engineer. I'd give her about the same consideration on this subject as if a bum walked up to me on the street and started to lecture me on it.

QFT.
 
DonVito said:
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," and why are you browsing her blog in the first place? By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers" when she calls the 9/11 widows "grieferazzi" and calls John Edwards a "lovely human." At least Coulter, unlike Rosie O'Donnell, makes her living as a political pundit, and enjoys a sizable audience in doing so.

Is English not your first language? Your posts are just bizarre.

It is a manipulative and slothful - though highly effective - means of assigning attributes to a large political movement based on nothing other than cherry-picked and highly unrepresentative examples.

It's not just assiging attributes, it's also inventing an entire movement. There is no liberal movement, there is no progressive movement. There are people who oppose Iraq, or various measures taken by BushCo., but this does not comprise an organized, funded, large political movement with specific goals and an infrastructure to achieve those goals.

What "the Left" has come to mean is "anyone who opposes the extremist policies of the Bush movement." The collection of people referred to as "the Left" have not really had any affirmative agenda or anything in common beyond that, because everything has been devoted to trying to limit and fight against everything from more Middle East invasions to torture and lawlessness at home.

That's why people who have quite disparate political views on a whole range of matters end up as full-scale political allies - there has been very little ability for any Bush opponents to do much of anything politically other than work against the damage they have wrought on the country.

O'Reilly's comment that "there isn't much of a far right in this country" and that's why he spends so much time talking about "the far left."

He has it completely opposite. Would the BushCo. noise machine be able to function if it became clear to everyone that there is no larger "left" or "liberal" or "progressive" movement? That's where their real war is. I guess that's why they had to manufacture a movement. Movement Conservatives need an enemy to push their policies. If they don't have one, they'll just create one.

These people are cunning at dividing people with using "emotions" and "confusion" as their silver bullets.

The practice of divide and conquer I need not dwell on as this is what is practiced every day in all main stream media. Left vs. right, democrat vs. republican and so on.

This is to create confusion and despair for the average person in order to keep them out of the debate altogether. The one thing the beltway crowd does not want is for the average citizen to have a voice in this country's debate. The main stream media and the politicians are most aware of the average citizens view since the mid term elections and they certainly do not want them entering the debate.

The tactic of name calling, confusion, are all fruits of a desperate persons attempt to "change the subject" from the real issue at hand which of course is an old debating tactic itself and by doing this time and time again they alienate the masses in general from ever getting into the debate. They ( mainstream news ) people are very successful at this.

The OP, useing Rosie ODonnell and her opinions is somehow legitimately shown to be that held by some segment of a larger group - only the opinion holders, the segment, not the larger group - are the proper subjects of the critique.

For example, it is not fair to critique the entire Democratic Party and its supporters based upon opinions expressed by Rev. Al Sharpton. Tempting as it might be because it puts a face on what often is a superb sound-bite and eliminates the need of the MSM to actually do some work and research their subject. Members of the larger group (again, the amorphous "left") may often agree, and probably often disagree with the Rev. Sharpton.

But the MSM (and in the OP Rosie ODonnell) using Rev. Sharpton does not create the larger problem - simply because Rev. Sharpton is so universally recognized to be a somtimes-polarizing person having strong (and sometimes unusual) opinions. It is when less-recognizable, or even anonymously held opinions are attributed to the larger group that the purist form of sophistry occurs.

First, that the opinions held by Rosie ODonnell et al are not demonstrably held by very many persons, or by anybody at all in the group being criticized. The opinions, for example, are certainly not held by representatives of "the left" in a position of authority, power, or influence, nor has it been shown (by a qualified reputable poll, for example) to be a consensus view of "the left." Until that occurs, critiquing that opinion, and by extension, "the left," is pure sophistry.

And completly laughable and irrelevant...








 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers"

sadly, many of the leftwingers in this forum think Coulter is the mouthpiece for the right.

 
What's scary for the Republicans is that Rosie in all her nutiness is extremely popular with Women
I guess that mirrors the scary factor for Democrats and liberals as to why Coulter and Limbaugh are popular with Neo-Cons.

Each side has their fair share of loud mouthed but typically irrational media celebs.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
What's scary for the Republicans is that Rosie in all her nutiness is extremely popular with Women
I guess that mirrors the scary factor for Democrats and liberals as to why Coulter and Limbaugh are popular with Neo-Cons.

Each side has their fair share of loud mouthed but typically irrational media celebs.

Yeah but I hear about Anny in a political manner. Rosie I hear about in a "Dang She's Nuts" manner.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
What's scary for the Republicans is that Rosie in all her nutiness is extremely popular with Women
I guess that mirrors the scary factor for Democrats and liberals as to why Coulter and Limbaugh are popular with Neo-Cons.

Each side has their fair share of loud mouthed but typically irrational media celebs.
What's Limbuagh's radio audience compared to the audience of the view by numbers? Back in September I won a free trip to NYC and one of the events scheduled for us was a viewing of the View to see Lionel Ritchie. Man I tell you all the Yentas in that studio were in Love with Rosie. She was by far more popular than Babs, Hasslebeck and Behar combined. You guys on the Right are smart to try and marginalize her because she's definately a force to deal with (unlike Coulter and to a lesser degree Limbaugh). Just don't make the mistake that Trump did, his childish tirade against her only made her more popular among women.

 
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers"

sadly, many of the leftwingers in this forum think Coulter is the mouthpiece for the right.
Not really. It's only when she says something truly outrageous that she becomes a mouthpiece for conservatives.

And while we're at it, let's not forget, the only people who hate gays are christians. And all christians hate gays.

While I don't agree with the OP, it rings a little hollow to hear some on this board go right to the "Rosie doesn't speak for all libs" cry.
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers"

sadly, many of the leftwingers in this forum think Coulter is the mouthpiece for the right.
Not really. It's only when she says something truly outrageous that she becomes a mouthpiece for conservatives.

And while we're at it, let's not forget, the only people who hate gays are christians. And all christians hate gays.

While I don't agree with the OP, it rings a little hollow to hear some on this board go right to the "Rosie doesn't speak for all libs" cry.
Well when she mocks the Dub she kind of speaks for the majority of Americans, Left, Middle and some on the Right
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers"

sadly, many of the leftwingers in this forum think Coulter is the mouthpiece for the right.
Not really. It's only when she says something truly outrageous that she becomes a mouthpiece for conservatives.

And while we're at it, let's not forget, the only people who hate gays are christians. And all christians hate gays.

While I don't agree with the OP, it rings a little hollow to hear some on this board go right to the "Rosie doesn't speak for all libs" cry.
Well when she mocks the Dub she kind of speaks for the majority of Americans, Left, Middle and some on the Right

I guess compared to a broken clock, one simply on the fritz may be right more than twice a day. 😀
 
Originally posted by: spittledip
So... would people like to stop flaming each other and start actually talking about the issue brought up in the post (the important issue, that is) ? Is it possible that the govt brought down the building?

This topic has been beaten to death.

And who cares what Rosie says? And what does she have to do with the right looking sane or the left not? She is one person and doesn't represent the whole.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: DonVito
Since when does Rosie O'Donnell speak for "all left wingers," By your logic, Ann Coulter speaks for "all right wingers"

sadly, many of the leftwingers in this forum think Coulter is the mouthpiece for the right.
Not really. It's only when she says something truly outrageous that she becomes a mouthpiece for conservatives.

And while we're at it, let's not forget, the only people who hate gays are christians. And all christians hate gays.

While I don't agree with the OP, it rings a little hollow to hear some on this board go right to the "Rosie doesn't speak for all libs" cry.
Well when she mocks the Dub she kind of speaks for the majority of Americans, Left, Middle and some on the Right

I guess compared to a broken clock, one simply on the fritz may be right more than twice a day. 😀
True. In my eyes she lost any credibility when she went after Tom Selleck. I must admit I do get a chuckle when she gets the Far Rights panties in a Twist though.
 
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