Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: DaShen
Asian martial arts takes on some very different philosophies in fighting styles.
Korean Tai Kwan Do originated from an old version of Korean Martial Arts, sometimes called Teggen/Tekken. I forget. It can be pretty lethal. But it is highly acrobatic and requires mostly legs and some elbows.
Miu Thai is very lethal, but you can have joint problems later in life, and it really isn't a self defense type of style, more than a kill offensive.
Jujitsu is more grappling and hand to hand but is not as fluid as other Asian forms.
Judo is very good, but is quite hard to use unless you have practiced for a very long long time.
Xiaolin Boxing and Wushu is more about show and form because so much was lost, but it is pretty to watch.
Tai Ji if you practice Yang, Shang, & others for years and years (10+ years and you are close to being decent at it) is one of the best IMO. But you have to learn from people who actually know what they are doing and aren't just doing it for "exercise". My dad knows a whole bunch of different martial arts, but he is 63 now and only does Tai Ji now with some Judo and Korean Boxing mixed in. He still can beat the crap out of me with one hand. Pisses me off sometimes because I am a very strong guy. Being thrown around like a rag doll by someone almost 3 times your age can have that affect.
Jujutsu is quite flexible, and that is even how the term can loosely be translated. Jujutsu is all about being "fluid" with your opponents, and more importantly, with your techniques.
Anyhow, these martial arts threads on ATOT get to be quite silly, and clueless, and I recommend going to martial arts specific sites to get information.
I find
e-budo to be a great resource, or at least for Japanese styled arts.
Depends on your definition of fluid. If by instinctual, you are correct, but if by fluid motion as in misdirection of blows and such, not as much so. More grappling and offense-offense. That is why I like for my own purpose more ancient forms of martial arts. They tend to be more fluid. Even the exercises and training is fluid in motion. Jujutsu is not fluid in exercise and training.
Perhaps some of the most incorrect statements I have seen yet to be made on this thread.
In fact most, if not all, of the techniques in jujutsu is about the directing attacks elsewhere and using the opponents energy against them. Yes, there are some grappling moves, but the art is hardly centered around those (judo, for example, would probably fit into the "grappling" category more so). Furthermore jujutsu can arguably be considered amongst the oldest of the Japanese martial arts so when you refer to doing "ancient forms" you must be really looking for some esoteric art form that predates unarmed combat in Japan. Many of the koru jujutsu ryu can easily be traced back to the 1500s, and that is as far as documentation will go. Who knows how much further back one really could go.
Not to be too disparaging but the fact that you claim that "jujutsu is not fluid in exercise and training" (those terms hardly make sense when used together in this context; it's all the same) basically tells me you have zero experience with it, have never seen it demonstrated and/or if you have it was an awful experience. None of which, might I add, is necessarily your fault.
Yes, I am a jujutsu practitioner (well I was until I moved a few months ago) for about five, going on six years. I may be somewhat bias for jujutsu, but I have never claimed anywhere in this thread it is "better" than anything else so I am trying to leave that bias out of this thread.
However, when I see what can be construed as a gross misunderstanding and misinterpretation of jujutsu I am somewhat concerned that the wrong impression will be given to other people. As such I would like to make some effort in stemming that wrong impression.
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