Artist's Attempt To Highlight 'Horrifying Truth' Of KKK Backfires

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zinfamous

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No, it's not . . . just as it isn't "about damned time" to be told what we can say or can't say in words, either.

The TWO most comprehensive attempts to decide and decree what is art and what is not art were carried out in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia.

The results:

1. Really bad art.

2. Worse repression.

FFS, anyone who looks at that art installation of a paper mache klan guy with the obviously instructive warning IN ENGLISH behind it and thinks the artist was promoting the KKK is an ignoramus and a moron.

And anyone who thinks this sad reaction wasn't simply moron pandering is making niggardly use of their brainpan. :colbert:


seriously.

If the fools that claim offense based on their misguided interpretation of this display are deserving of any amount of validation; then I think the critics of these "the righteously offended," should be afforded an equally loud stage, and equal validation for their response: "You guys are a bunch of fucking idiots. Open your eyes for chrissakes." or some such.
 

justoh

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See, if you had just discussed the issue reasonably, I would probably have agreed with you about the idiocy and cowardice of the college's response. But you had to be an asshole about it. So, with all due respect, fuck you. I'll just keep right on being stupid. If the alternative is agreeing with your obnoxious fuckwittery, I'd rather be wrong.

If you had discussed the issue at all...
 

Moonbeam

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seriously.

If the fools that claim offense based on their misguided interpretation of this display are deserving of any amount of validation; then I think the critics of these "the righteously offended," should be afforded an equally loud stage, and equal validation for their response: "You guys are a bunch of fucking idiots. Open your eyes for chrissakes." or some such.

So true. That's why the Nazis and the Soviets lay claim to the ownership of the stage and bring their own validating committee with them. Camps and Gulags for the artists, I say. We can't have them threatening our freedom of expression. Welcome to the machine.......
 
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So true. That's why the Nazis and the Soviets lay claim to the ownership of the stage and bring their own validating committee with them. Camps and Gulags for the artists, I say. We can't have them threatening our freedom of expression. Welcome to the machine.......

It seems more than a touch disingenuous to act as though a single state university restricting a single artistic display from being displayed without their consent is on par with fascist governments acting to ban all displays of resistance. The slippery slope to Nazism doesn't run through the University of Iowa or its completely reasonable demand to control displays erected on its property.
 

Moonbeam

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It seems more than a touch disingenuous to act as though a single state university restricting a single artistic display from being displayed without their consent is on par with fascist governments acting to ban all displays of resistance. The slippery slope to Nazism doesn't run through the University of Iowa or its completely reasonable demand to control displays erected on its property.

As I have tried to explain in a number of ways, this is about your unwillingness to leave your reasonable position. I have suggested you are enslaved by a set of unconscious assumptions you make about what is reasonable, who is entitled and who has the authority to give permission. What you want to do is say reason is on your side but I'm not arguing that. I am asking you to look at the box you have created by being a slave to reason.

We live in a society that is governed by rules and principles, including notions of entitlement, etc. and the unconscious and unquestioning adoption mechanically of their fundamental virtue creates a machine that functions blindly. What do you do when your laws are unjust and you make it against the law to change them? This is exactly what happens when rules are accepted slavishly. It can always be argued that it's reasonable to obey the law whatever the law is.

When I say that truth is always some third way, I am talking about a perspective that seeks to integrate irrational rejection and slavish adoption at a higher level of understanding. All those young men who died horribly in the trenches of WW1 didn't do so because humanity is sane. And I am not calling you stupid or an idiot because I am asking you to consider something I don't think is very easy to see. I am warning you of the dangers I believe exist where reason isn't informed by the heart. Love for example, is quite irrational don't you think?
 
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