Article on Superbowl Advertising

[Blackjack200]

That's nutty.

Yeah, I guess everyone that contracts HIV through sexual contact did that "willfully" too. I mean, there's always a chance, no matter how carefull you are.

 

[soccerballtux]

Yeah, I guess everyone that contracts HIV through sexual contact did that "willfully" too. I mean, there's always a chance, no matter how carefull you are.

Just wait till marriage to have sex and expect your partner to do the same, problem solved

 

[Zorba]

1. That we can predict the future,

It is pretty easy to know that a pregnant woman without a highschool education, living on welfare, probably will have a hard time providing for a kid, especially if they already have a couple others.

2. that this child's future is so abhorrent that death is preferable to life.

I personally care much more about what is good for society than what is good for a clump of cells. Having millions of extra poor as hell babies on welfare, growing up in horrible environments would be very bad for society. This is especially true if the parents drop out of school/college to "take care of" the baby.

 

[Blackjack200]

Just wait till marriage to have sex and expect your partner to do the same, problem solved

lol, I have a hard enough time finding a girl without eliminating 99% of the field.

Oh, you fundies crack. me. up.

 

[StageLeft]

Reading about this elsewhere I think none of us should miss the irony. The country appears to be ok with girls in bikinis selling drugs but when a guy comes on saying he's glad his mom didn't have him snuffed out like a wart we get offended.

 

[DietDrThunder]

It is pretty easy to know that a pregnant woman without a highschool education, living on welfare, probably will have a hard time providing for a kid, especially if they already have a couple others.

I personally care much more about what is good for society than what is good for a clump of cells. Having millions of extra poor as hell babies on welfare, growing up in horrible environments would be very bad for society. This is especially true if the parents drop out of school/college to "take care of" the baby.

If we follow this line of thought, then why not encourage the women on welfare to have a tubal ligation? Also, encourage the men on welfare to have a vasectomy. This would eliminate the hell babies on welfare problem.

 

[actuarial]

Just wait till marriage to have sex and expect your partner to do the same, problem solved

Then you're trusting that person, and there's still a CHANCE. Unless you've been with someone 24 hours / day since birth, there's a chance they're not a virgin.

 

[Robor]

Just wait till marriage to have sex and expect your partner to do the same, problem solved

/facepalm

 

[kalrith]

Just wait till marriage to have sex and expect your partner to do the same, problem solved

That certainly solved the problem for my wife and me.

And for equating it with HIV, I think that's a good comparison. There is a chance regardless of what protective methods used that having sex will result in either HIV or a pregnancy. Each can greatly inconvenience someone's life, and each can be totally unwanted. Everyone should know there's a risk of these two things every time you have sex. The difference is that you can murder someone to get out of the pregnancy, but that option isn't available with HIV.

For clarification, I suppose it's not the parent who directly kills the baby but the hitman (i.e. doctor) that they've hired.

 

[JohnnyGage]

I don't know about you but most of us aren't interested in either commercials about Gays dating or some asshole talking about how happy he is his mother didn't abort him. We just want to watch football and see some interesting and amusing commercials. Leave the political shit for asshole Cable news junkies.

Can we get an amen or hallaluyah please? I just want to watch a game--if Tebow is so happy his Mother didn't abort him then he should go on Pat Robertson or something. I want to see a good game with funny commercials and The Who, is that too much to ask?

 

[Blackjack200]

That certainly solved the problem for my wife and me.

And for equating it with HIV, I think that's a good comparison. There is a chance regardless of what protective methods used that having sex will result in either HIV or a pregnancy. Each can greatly inconvenience someone's life, and each can be totally unwanted. Everyone should know there's a risk of these two things every time you have sex. The difference is that you can murder someone to get out of the pregnancy, but that option isn't available with HIV.

For clarification, I suppose it's not the parent who directly kills the baby but the hitman (i.e. doctor) that they've hired.

But if the woman takes a Plan B pill, it's chemical warfare!

As for TT; I'm glad you're happy your mom didn't abort you. Now, go drink the blood of a 2000 year old Heeb.

 

[Onita]

Reading about this elsewhere I think none of us should miss the irony. The country appears to be ok with girls in bikinis selling drugs but when a guy comes on saying he's glad his mom didn't have him snuffed out like a wart we get offended.

I guess I just don't see the irony in that. Sex sells, especially to the viewership of the NFL. If it weren't in America, nobody would care about the bikinis. I know I, personally, don't watch the Superbowl to see political or religious commercials.

 

[woolfe9999]

From the feminist author of the article. Although she is Pro-choice, at least she has the intellectual integrity to recognize that NOW is being quite hypocritical in its opposition to the Tebow add So commercial after commercial of women being exploited as sex symbols is acceptable...but the story of a woman who had an at risk birth but chose to carry the child full term, a child that grew up to be an NFL player...that story is taboo. Didn't Pam Tebow make a choice...shouldn't that be what the Pro-choice movement is all about?

The problem with this allegation of hypocrisy, if you are framing it in terms of NOW, which the article is about, is that it isn't hypocrisy. NOW opposes sexual objectification of women in popular culture. They and other feminist organizations have written and spoken about this many times. The obvious reason they do not direct their criticisms to specific TV commercials featuring scantily clad women is that there are so damn many of them it is pointless to address the issue except in broad, cultural terms or they would be writing statements objecting to this or that ad 10 times a day.

The issue with an abortion ad during the Superbowl is different. It's a one-off event. In that situation, of course the criticism will be directed at the particular ad in question.

- wolf

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't know about you but most of us aren't interested in either commercials about Gays dating or some asshole talking about how happy he is his mother didn't abort him. We just want to watch football and see some interesting and amusing commercials. Leave the political shit for asshole Cable news junkies.

Too true. I don't care what political stance you take on the issue. Keep it out of professional sports.

The real problem seems to be that CBS for years has denied ads like this from being run during the Super Bowl. Now they suddenly seem like they are choosing a side or supporting a certain point of view. Other groups are now asking why their money wasn't good enough. Then you have the people questioning how a non profit organization affords 2.5mil on a commercial.

 

[blackangst1]

Really. What's going on in our inner cities?



My personal view is that human lives are sacred. And are not to be arbitrarily sacrificed in the name of convenience, or in the hilariously contradictory belief that its better for them.



I don't think I understand. If Pam Tebow had aborted Tim, it would've been good advice. But since she didn't, it was bad advice?



I'm sorry, but simply not desiring to carry the pregnancy to term is selfish. There's more at stake here than the mother's wishes. If a mother willfully gets pregnant, she is responsible now for another life.

/agree. Especially when only approx 6% of abortions in the USA are done because of risk to fetus or mother (according to wiki abortion stats, year 2000)

 

[Carmen813]

Men between 18 and 40 might be the main demographic for the rest of the NFL season, but I think the demographic vastly expands for the Superbowl.



I would equate "willfully have sex" with "willfully get pregnant" as there is always a chance of pregnancy regardless of what birth-control methods are used, and women taking that risk should also take on the responsible to care for the life that they just produced (rather than killing that life). Are you saying that the vast majority of abortions are by rape victims? I think not.

And where does Baby Daddy fit into this equation?

 

[Atreus21]

It is pretty easy to know that a pregnant woman without a highschool education, living on welfare, probably will have a hard time providing for a kid, especially if they already have a couple others.



I personally care much more about what is good for society than what is good for a clump of cells. Having millions of extra poor as hell babies on welfare, growing up in horrible environments would be very bad for society. This is especially true if the parents drop out of school/college to "take care of" the baby.

Liberals of all people should know that a society is only as good as the weakest of its citizens.

So, again, you advocate killing a child for it's own good?

That's truly remarkable logic.

 

[cubeless]

And where does Baby Daddy fit into this equation?

he's a football fan, so he doesn't care...

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

There is no pro-life and pro-choice, there is only pro- and anti-abortion.

Was listening to NPR the other day...they use the terms 'pro-choice' and 'anti-abortion' to reflect their 'unbiased' perspective. Libs love to play with words and spin them to their liking.

 

[Atreus21]

Was listening to NPR the other day...they use the terms 'pro-choice' and 'anti-abortion' to reflect their 'unbiased' perspective. Libs love to play with words and spin them to their liking.

Well, at least they didn't use anti-choice. Which is the most hilarious by far.

 

[Jaskalas]

Well, at least they didn't use anti-choice. Which is the most hilarious by far.

Anti-life and Pro-life. Which would you choose?