Ars: AMD may be irrelevant

[Nemesis 1]

Let me just add to the big picture . I not sure who it will be . AMD/ NV ect ect ect. But I do look for intel to fall . I also know that the same company that caused dec downfall using intel to do the dirty work was IBM . IBM there is much About this company I don't understand . It goes back even further than what ibm did durring ww2.
Bell labs invented the transitor , Seems to me AT&T should be the most powerful company in the world . Why IBM wasn't broken up years and years ago goes beyond understanding and justice. IBM is a national secruity company . After events of ww2 . That putting ones faith in the WRONG company . Point is Intell has a float of 5 billion shares its done splitting its at market valuse with no real up side . It would be interesting to see how many shares of intel owned wayback when DEC was worlds richest company for 1 year . You can bet IBM will be behind the scenes in the next big rise and fall of processing tech . But for the powers that be intel needs to be replaced so the money makers are on the bottom floor befor the rise of the next big deal .IBM I don't like using the word hate . but I do hate this foul evil company

 

[podspi]

Are you sure, I didn't go look but I thought it was the razr1 that got the 2ghz chip .

You are correct, it is the RAZR i (guess what the i stands for?! )

Let me just add to the big picture . I not sure who it will be . AMD/ NV ect ect ect. But I do look for intel to fall . I also know that the same company that caused dec downfall using intel to do the dirty work was IBM . IBM there is much About this company I don't understand . It goes back even further than what ibm did durring ww2.
Bell labs invented the transitor , Seems to me AT&T should be the most powerful company in the world . Why IBM wasn't broken up years and years ago goes beyond understanding and justice. IBM is a national secruity company . After events of ww2 . That putting ones faith in the WRONG company . Point is Intell has a float of 5 billion shares its done splitting its at market valuse with no real up side . It would be interesting to see how many shares of intel owned wayback when DEC was worlds richest company for 1 year . You can bet IBM will be behind the scenes in the next big rise and fall of processing tech . But for the powers that be intel needs to be replaced so the money makers are on the bottom floor befor the rise of the next big deal .IBM I don't like using the word hate . but I do hate this foul evil company

I don't think IBM ever intended for Intel or Microsoft to become the forces they did in the tech industry. Far from being evil, IBM pretty much gave away the schematics to their personal computers, leading to the rise of the
"IBM-Compatibles". Out of the three important players, IBM, Microsoft, and Intel, the only one not needed to make an IBM-Compatible computer was IBM. They lost out and screwed up, nothing more.

Also, the Bell Labs patent you are referring to was signed over into the public domain as part of a concession by ATT to avoid getting broken up, which the government eventually did anyway.

 

[Idontcare]

IBM I don't like using the word hate . but I do hate this foul evil company

Companies cannot be evil (or benevolent), the people making decisions in the company can be evil (or benevolent).

The people who worked at IBM during WWII no longer work at that company. I doubt there is a single IBM employee today who was on IBM's payroll in 1945.

I'm a white guy living in the USA, the USA used to be full of white guys who were slavers and plantation owners.

Does that make me, or the USA, a slaver or this country a pro-slavery country?

Time changes things because the people who are alive are different at any given point in history. The USA may have the same title as it did 200yrs ago but that doesn't mean it is the same USA as it was 200yrs ago.

And I certainly don't want my character judged on the basis of what white guys did 200yrs ago, I'm not them and they aren't me.

So what is the point of judging the IBM of today, and its employees of today, on the basis of the actions taken by the IBM of 70 yrs ago owing to the actions of its employees from 70yrs ago?

 

[NTMBK]

Are you sure, I didn't go look but I thought it was the razr1 that got the 2ghz chip .

Yup, mistype- Razr i. Razr M is the Krait version.

 

[KompuKare]

I don't think IBM ever intended for Intel or Microsoft to become the forces they did in the tech industry. Far from being evil, IBM pretty much gave away the schematics to their personal computers, leading to the rise of the
"IBM-Compatibles". Out of the three important players, IBM, Microsoft, and Intel, the only one not needed to make an IBM-Compatible computer was IBM. They lost out and screwed up, nothing more.

I think the biggest thing IBM was guilty of with the PC is making bad choices: and the worst one was choosing a CPU which was a 4/8/16 bit hack when at the time the 68000 had 32-bit address and data registers (although was limited to 20/24 bits of memory). Pity Motorola were to stupid and short-sighted to not realize how important the IBM PC would become.

Millions of people who had to live through the DOS area (that is before Win95, arguably WinNT) and deal with 640KB limits, 64KB memory segments would have been happy to never have seen an Intel CPU.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I think the biggest thing IBM was guilty of with the PC is making bad choices: and the worst one was choosing a CPU which was a 4/8/16 bit hack when at the time the 68000 had 32-bit address and data registers (although was limited to 20/24 bits of memory). Pity Motorola were to stupid and short-sighted to not realize how important the IBM PC would become.

Millions of people who had to live through the DOS area (that is before Win95, arguably WinNT) and deal with 640KB limits, 64KB memory segments would have been happy to never have seen an Intel CPU.

68K macs use their own form of segmentation anyways, since the 68000 didn't have an MMU to my knowledge.

 

[KompuKare]

68K macs use their own form of segmentation anyways, since the 68000 didn't have an MMU to my knowledge.

Sure, not saying 68K was perfect. And Apple did have this mad 24-bit idea ("well the address register is 32-bit and we will only ever need 24-bits so why not do something else with those extra 8 bits?").

Think only 68030+ had MMUs, but nothing compared to the mess which was 16-bit x86 and the fact that 286 didn't really fix it and when 386 came along it had so many modes. 1981 to 1995+ was a long time to wait to finally get a continuous memory model.

 

[sontin]

After the normal desktop market even the biggest supporter of AMD's opteron series is now dissing Bulldozer:

VP of Storage and Data Management at Cray, Barry Bolding, in a statement said that the decision of using Intel Xeon chips in Cascade XC30 cluster doesn’t mean that they will not use AMD chips in future. He further added that if AMD release better chips in future they may again switch to it. His company believer’s that the Xeon series by Intel has greatly improved from its previous generations. Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge are world class processors with high performance computing, Bolding said. About currently existing clusters, he said that they can be upgraded using Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) 6300 series Opteron chips.

http://www.crazyjoys.com/cray-inc-c...-switching-to-intel-intcs-xeon-chips,20121258