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Arrow anti-missile defense system successfully tested in U.S.

Gotta love Israel for weapons development.😀

Though, the Patriots have been upgraded since GW1.
 
The main problem I see with the many US defense projects is that they answer a question nobody asked.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
So, why are we giving them military aid when their missile defense system is better than ours?

Hmmm. Lets see, they are surrounded by terrorist rogue nations that have thousands of "martrys" ready to die in the ultimate sacrafice to see Israel destroyed.

The Israelis have modernized the region, their high tech industries are amongst the best in the world. Meanwhile, the rest of middle east, with an abundance of oil, has substandard living conditions and no democracy.

You obviously don't know much about military aid. The US does not give countries a check made out to cash to let them spend as they please. Most foreign aid winds up helping the US more than the country that is getting the money. US contractors, defense companies and others benefit by supplying weapons, construction equipment, consulting services, ect... You need to educate yourself a bit more on how the US uses foreign aid to its benefit. On top of that, our total foreign aid makes up less than 2% of our GDP.
Let me ask you this- Do you think this new technology is beneficial to the US, or would you prefer it in the hands of the Chinese or some terrorist group?
 
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: conjur
So, why are we giving them military aid when their missile defense system is better than ours?

Hmmm. Lets see, they are surrounded by terrorist rogue nations that have thousands of "martrys" ready to die in the ultimate sacrafice to see Israel destroyed.

The Israelis have modernized the region, their high tech industries are amongst the best in the world. Meanwhile, the rest of middle east, with an abundance of oil, has substandard living conditions and no democracy.

You obviously don't know much about military aid. The US does not give countries a check made out to cash to let them spend as they please. Most foreign aid winds up helping the US more than the country that is getting the money. US contractors, defense companies and others benefit by supplying weapons, construction equipment, consulting services, ect... You need to educate yourself a bit more on how the US uses foreign aid to its benefit. On top of that, our total foreign aid makes up less than 2% of our GDP.
Let me ask you this- Do you think this new technology is beneficial to the US, or would you prefer it in the hands of the Chinese or some terrorist group?


I couldn't have put it better myself! :thumbsup:
 
Arrow Missle Program

Israel's defensive Balistic Missle Program.

These are NOT ICBM class missle defense missles, they are developed for use against smaller
and slower missles launched from relatively close by. (Scud - Balistic class weapons)

Tested in U.S. Costal Facility to evaluate it's capability.

Scud launced from Pt. Mugu intercepted by Arrow.

Well, the Arrow had to be launched from Vandenberg, there are only
2 places in Sunthern Californina that perform missle launches.
Point Mugu South of Oxnard & Vandenberg West of Lompoc.
Distance of 100 miles at most.

Obvious of no use at all against an ICBM class weapon.

Limited use, as only threat would be from a ship within 100 miles of target.
 
They should sell it to Japan, S. Korean and Taiwan, they need it to shoot down all those N. Korean and Chinese missiles.
 
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.
 
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.


Link?
 
Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
Originally posted by: conjur
So, why are we giving them military aid when their missile defense system is better than ours?

you cant stop an attacking country with an anti-missile defense system.
What if they attack with missiles?
 
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.

This has been a concern ever since ABM missiles were first considered. One of the requirements for an effective ABM missile system is one that can disinguish between the warheads and decoys.

I suppose this is why destroying a missile in it's boost phase is much preferred.
 
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.

I thought the missile defense program was for "rogue" nations with small arsenals.

Also, where did you get the $200-$400 billion number from?
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.

I thought the missile defense program was for "rogue" nations with small arsenals.

IIRC, China only fields about 10 ICBMs, each fitted with a single multi-megaton warhead. The missiles are supposedly similar to our old Titan IIs. There is also a Xia (?) class ballistic missile sub, but I bet that has a US attack boat behind it 24/7 when not in port.

An ABM system of nearly any size would be a threat.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: conjur
So, why are we giving them military aid when their missile defense system is better than ours?
Why do we export wine to France?
How does that answer my question? Try again.

Why do Canadians come to America for medical procedures?

Why do Americans come to Canada for Medical Procedures and Prescription Drugs?
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: conjur
So, why are we giving them military aid when their missile defense system is better than ours?
Why do we export wine to France?
How does that answer my question? Try again.

Why do Canadians come to America for medical procedures?

Why do Americans come to Canada for Medical Procedures and Prescription Drugs?

:cookie;

Untie that flag around your head... he was just using a scenario to make a point.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
speaking of which:

as anaylsts pointed out, china could nullify a $200-$400 billion missile of ours even if it did work, simply by throwing trash and debris into space. this might be part of the reason they are pursuing their space program agressively the past years not to mention its a division of their military.

I thought the missile defense program was for "rogue" nations with small arsenals.

IIRC, China only fields about 10 ICBMs, each fitted with a single multi-megaton warhead. The missiles are supposedly similar to our old Titan IIs. There is also a Xia (?) class ballistic missile sub, but I bet that has a US attack boat behind it 24/7 when not in port.

An ABM system of nearly any size would be a threat.

I guess I overestimated their capabilities. I thought they probably were in the hundreds.
 
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