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Arrgh. Atlanta bar owner shoots robber....now charged with aggravated assault.

Fausto

Elite Member
This is totally insane...this poor guy's bar has been getting robbed almost weekly. He's there, a guy tries to break in, there's a struggle and he shoots the robber. Now they're charging him with aggravated assault. On top of everything else, the worthless f*ck he shot was arrested previously for burglarizing the same bar on two other occasions.....and the bar owner is being charged. Total bullsh*t.:|

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Fausto
 
Something is not right....
They dont just arbitrarily charge someone with Ag.Assault. The whole story is not out yet.
Would'nt surprise me if they just drop charges later after the hub-bub dies down.
 


<< Something is not right....
They dont just arbitrarily charge someone with Ag.Assault. The whole story is not out yet.
Would'nt surprise me if they just drop charges later after the hub-bub dies down.
>>



well, this doesn't surprise me, they have charged home owners for shooting robbers. this is recockulous. i'm sorry but if somebody tries to rob me, i should be able to do anything i want to that bastard/bastess.
 
It's that the guy he shot had already been arrested for breaking into the bar in the past. Going back and doing it again is just asking to get capped. I think they should leave the bar owner alone. If the cops can't keep the robbers away from his establishment, what other choice does he have than to patrol it himself?

Fausto
 


<< Police said Kourkoulis was uncooperative in providing information about what happened between himself and the alleged intruder. Kourkoulis was awaiting advice from an attorney. >>




I bet this is why they charged him. They needed something to detain him while they figure out what happened. I mean, "usually" the cops do not take the victim and charge them with a crime.......
 
You guys think that if the bar owner had been a little woman (little as in the robber could have easily beaten the crap out of her) she would have been charged?
 



<< You guys think that if the bar owner had been a little woman (little as in the robber could have easily beaten the crap out of her) she would have been charged? >>




If she didn't give any information as to what happened, probably.....I mean, if I were the guy, I wouldn't give out any info either until I spoke to an attorney, but the cops have the right to detain him if they do not know who is at fault. There is definately more to the story that the news is not reporting...
 


<< well, this doesn't surprise me, they have charged home owners for shooting robbers. this is recockulous. i'm sorry but if somebody tries to rob me, i should be able to do anything i want to that bastard/bastess. >>



I completely agree. If you don't want to get shot, don't break into peoples' businesses...simple as that.

Fausto
 
i thought you were allowed to shoot people who tresspassed on your proptery...especially if they are trying to rob you or something like that. at least thats the way it should be. if i were the owner i would have shot the guy too.
 
He probably told the cops to shove it up their arse..

The guy had already busted in to the place twice before and now he had to take care of bizness.

I would be irked as well...but then again the robber wouldn't have been in critical condition either..he'd be layed up in some shack waiting for a cremation that will never come...:Q

I believe the law states that they have to be on the premises..so I'd wait until I saw them eyes..then blammo

Isn't there alot of weird things going on in Georgia now?
 
i'm not even bothered by ridiculous garbage like this anymore, i just laugh at everyone involved in the case. it's just so stupid
 
Ordinarily you are not entitled to use deadly force to protect your property; you have to believe that your person is in immediate danger. In this instance I would hope the charges are dropped, as it sounds as though the burglar deserved what he got, and since there was a struggle of some kind the owner should be able to argue he was merely defending himself.
 
the bar owner should have capped him in his face. stupid people like that ruin this world. We dont need that kind of crap around here. Whats even more enfuriating is that fact that its like his 3rd offense at the same place!!!! Pop his ass good
 
Oh I see. The bar owner is doing it right. NEVER EVER talk to the police in such a situation. I am not joking or being sarcastic. ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you. I hope that I have the werewithal to shut my mouth in such a sitation too. He is WAY better off waiting for an attorney.

So he is being detained because he gave the cops no choice. He wouldn't talk. Nevertheless, this is the exact legal strategy that he should employ. A little detention now is far better than having your words twisted and misinterpreted against you later.
 


<< This is totally insane...this poor guy's bar has been getting robbed almost weekly. He's there, a guy tries to break in, there's a struggle and he shoots the robber. Now they're charging him with aggravated assault. On top of everything else, the worthless f*ck he shot was arrested previously for burglarizing the same bar on two other occasions.....and the bar owner is being charged. Total bullsh*t.:|

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Fausto
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WHAT THE F IS GOING ON? Boy I hope O'Reilly goes with this story!!!
 
Don_Vito
Maybe you can tell us more, but don't the police almost have to charge someone if there is a shooting, even if they know they will drop the charges? What are the legal mechanics involved? What are the polictical mechanics involved?
 


<< So he is being detained because he gave the cops no choice. He wouldn't talk. Nevertheless, this is the exact legal strategy that he should employ. A little detention now is far better than having your words twisted and misinterpreted against you later. >>


Yeah, the cops would probably give him a thumb's-up but some weasel defense attorney would be "just doing his job" to try to shift blame from the burglar to the bar owner. Then some ambulance-chaser would file a civil suit on behalf of poor mr. burglar to collect damages.
 


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<< This is totally insane...this poor guy's bar has been getting robbed almost weekly. He's there, a guy tries to break in, there's a struggle and he shoots the robber. Now they're charging him with aggravated assault. On top of everything else, the worthless f*ck he shot was arrested previously for burglarizing the same bar on two other occasions.....and the bar owner is being charged. Total bullsh*t.:|

Link to story

Fausto
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WHAT THE F IS GOING ON? Boy I hope O'Reilly goes with this story!!!
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You know he will, bet Neal Boortz will have it as well
 
well it sounds like something is either missing from the story, or they charged him because he wouldn't provide info. and instead was waiting for his attorney, which is perfectly within his rights, but the cops, without definate proof otherwise are probably forced to charge someone with a crime for a shooting even if they will drop the charges later
 
This is pretty much standard procedure in many parts of the country, especially since the man W-I-S-E-L-Y declined to give a statement until first having consulted with his attorney. If everything is on the up-and-up, he'll be released in less than 24 hours and, unless the prosecutor is mad as a hatter, the charges will be dropped. Occasionally, you get a prosecutor who is mad as a hatter, and puts a case of clear self-defense in front of a jury...and they always lose big. Some prosecutors are ideologically opposed to citizen self-defense, or guns, or has some other thing up his ass sideways...

It does makes public officials look bad when citizens can handle their own protection and defense. I mean, how the hell can you justify bazillion dollar police forces when a little old grandma packing a Lady Smith does more to protect the neighborhood in a few minutes time than the police have done in a decade?
 
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