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Arnold for President?

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How lame . . .

Gov. Schwarzenegger's reigning achievement is borrowing billions to plug this year's budget deficit but no real solution for next year. If that passes as "doing a good job", CA should have kept Gov. Hair.
 
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
For a country that's supposed to be tolerant and immigrant friendly, it sure seems like there's tons of a-holes and xenophobes south of the border.

Canada has had 3 out of 21 (16 if you exclude the accidental/short term PMs) foreign born PMs and look..the country still exists! There is absolutely no reason why any reasonable person would be opposed to such an amendmend.
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I love how no one can be a reasonable person and disagree with you. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
How lame . . .

Gov. Schwarzenegger's reigning achievement is borrowing billions to plug this year's budget deficit but no real solution for next year. If that passes as "doing a good job", CA should have kept Gov. Hair.
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hahhaha....yeah we shouldn't have.

There is a big difference between putting someone is a position that is actively trying to plug a hole and a person that is continual trying to twiddle that hole bigger.

If Davis stayed in power we would be another two or three nations in debt over here.

During the recall, I actually took the time to calculate these figures, we were 1,200 dollars in debt for every person that lived in California, and going further into debt this much for every second Davis remained in office.

You don?t become the second governor in this nations history to be recalled without a valid reason. Especially, when it?s a Democratic governor being uprooted in a state that has 2 million more registered Democrat voters in it. The last governor to be recalled was way back in the Great Depression?and ironically, this was the type of prestige that Davis was able to live up to.
 
Never will happen. To change the constitution to allow foreigner to become POTUS is next to impossible. If it could, it would have happened long ago when Alexander Hamilton was still around.
 
From a personal standpoint I oppose it because I believe that as president your loyalty must be to the US and the US only. If you are foreign born your love for your original homeland might cloud your judgement.
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Unfortunately that also disqualifies George W. Bush, since he's from Texas. 🙂

(And yes, I have known people from that great state that treat it as if it was its own country)

Edit: Alexander Hamilton was also not politically popular enough in his time to have made
a good candidate for POTUS.
 
Originally posted by: CQuinn
From a personal standpoint I oppose it because I believe that as president your loyalty must be to the US and the US only. If you are foreign born your love for your original homeland might cloud your judgement.
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Unfortunately that also disqualifies George W. Bush, since he's from Texas. 🙂

(And yes, I have known people from that great state that treat it as if it was its own country)
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Nah.... from New Haven Connecticut orignally! Pappy Bush emigrated to Texas when JR was a little 'un.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
For a country that's supposed to be tolerant and immigrant friendly, it sure seems like there's tons of a-holes and xenophobes south of the border.

Canada has had 3 out of 21 (16 if you exclude the accidental/short term PMs) foreign born PMs and look..the country still exists! There is absolutely no reason why any reasonable person would be opposed to such an amendmend.
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So Arnold should move to Canada and run for PM? 😉
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That would be awesome and I would vote for him, regardless of ideologies. He would turn my wimpy nation into a country that would be feared and recognized. Oh yeah. 😀
 

Isnt it sad that an actor is even being talked about as president, beyond it being obsurd. I'm thinking of great leaders of America, Jefferson, Washington, Madison, and a few contemporaries. Somehow this NWO crone doesnt come to mind.
 
Originally posted by: Smithy

Isnt it sad that an actor is even being talked about as president, beyond it being obsurd. I'm thinking of great leaders of America, Jefferson, Washington, Madison, and a few contemporaries. Somehow this NWO crone doesnt come to mind.
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Yeah, Reagan was a real piece of work... Seems like a common misconception here that only life-long politicians can have political ideas or are qualified for political positions.
 

I love how so few understand a 'budget'. Maybe you should check out a Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for California. Take Texas, it had ~500 billion in liquidable assests in 98'. Yes ~500 billion after all the bills were paid. Yet there was a 'budget' deficit then in 98' too, and they raised taxes. In the same year Texas' worth increased something like 12%. Take a look at a 98' or younger CAFR (they changed them in 99' after someone got this national attention) for you state and look at the total cream on top. Ask yourself: why do state and local governments own 70% of the top 30 nyse stocks? Is this a good thing? Why are they (States) generating increases of ~10%+ of worth each year? Why dont you know about this? When are you getting your check (im guessing the plan is never) ?

Something to think about. You will find 98' and younger CAFRs harder to find.
 
Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
How lame . . .

Gov. Schwarzenegger's reigning achievement is borrowing billions to plug this year's budget deficit but no real solution for next year. If that passes as "doing a good job", CA should have kept Gov. Hair.
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hahhaha....yeah we shouldn't have.

There is a big difference between putting someone is a position that is actively trying to plug a hole and a person that is continual trying to twiddle that hole bigger.

If Davis stayed in power we would be another two or three nations in debt over here.

During the recall, I actually took the time to calculate these figures, we were 1,200 dollars in debt for every person that lived in California, and going further into debt this much for every second Davis remained in office.

You don?t become the second governor in this nations history to be recalled without a valid reason. Especially, when it?s a Democratic governor being uprooted in a state that has 2 million more registered Democrat voters in it. The last governor to be recalled was way back in the Great Depression?and ironically, this was the type of prestige that Davis was able to live up to.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think Davis deserved the door for the same reason Bush does . . . clear mismanagement combined with a penchant for telling half-truths. I just think it's sad that Ueberroth or even McClintok were passed over to get a bad actor. The man's claim to fame is dominating a sport by loading up on muscle enhancing drugs and then movie roles where the less he talked the more money he made.

 
Allowing that authoritarian, fascist in the oval office would be a grave mistake. Not to mention, it'd tell us that the republicans are no longing looking for strong leaders but PR people.
 
I think that the US should allow a foreigner to be President IF they have made substantive, positive contributions to the United States during his/her 20+ years of American Citizenship.

I'd see nothing wrong with them being President then, do you?
 
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
I think that the US should allow a foreigner to be President IF they have made substantive, positive contributions to the United States during his/her 20+ years of American Citizenship.

I'd see nothing wrong with them being President then, do you?
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I can see Lantos' contributions . . . but are you really advocating for someone like Rupert Murdoch or Arnold Schwarzenegger as making substantive, positive contributions to our country?
 
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
I think that the US should allow a foreigner to be President IF they have made substantive, positive contributions to the United States during his/her 20+ years of American Citizenship.

I'd see nothing wrong with them being President then, do you?
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I don't think Arnold meets that criterion, so even if I agreed that wouldn't work. We'll have some idea of whether he meets that criterion once he's served out his first term or two as governor, but being a movie star doesn't count as a substantial contribution to the US or substantial qualification to be POTUS.

However, it's not a bad idea to think about the native born qualification for POTUS. If we removed it, should we replace it with a similar, easier to meet qualification such as must be a native for 20 years or some such requirement or should we drop it altogether?
 
But but but we can't have some French immoral foreigner occupying our highest office.

Why I won't be voting for Kerry because his wife is that atheist foreigner Ter-he-sa Heinz. And she speaks with that wretched unAmerican unCivilized accent.

Zephyr
 
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Arnold is a 1000 times better than the two asshat we have running now. He'd have my vote. Since he's foreign, why not just have Maria run?
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We've already had Bush as president, now u wanna throw in a guy who is 1000 times dumber than him?:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: Prfstrkr
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Arnold is a 1000 times better than the two asshat we have running now. He'd have my vote. Since he's foreign, why not just have Maria run?
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We've already had Bush as president, now u wanna throw in a guy who is 1000 times dumber than him?:disgust:
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Actually I find The Terminator far more intelligent and well-spoken than Bush.
 
You can not be foreign born and be a president according to the constitution.

Actually that was an amendment I do beleive.

37th?
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Prfstrkr
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Arnold is a 1000 times better than the two asshat we have running now. He'd have my vote. Since he's foreign, why not just have Maria run?
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We've already had Bush as president, now u wanna throw in a guy who is 1000 times dumber than him?:disgust:
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Actually I find The Terminator far more intelligent and well-spoken than Bush.
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That only means Arnold's got a speech writer who is far more intelligent than that of Bush administration.

 
The only thing sadder and more pathetic than this nation having to turn to second rate actors for leadership qualities is when these people far exceed the competence and achievements of the life long politicians that they have replaced.

Reagan > Carter

Arhhhnoolld > Davis

Talk about a dismal outlook for politicians.


 
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