Army Meets Goals

irwincur

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Just wondering why one of the military loving leftists here did not post this? Oh, I get it. It's only news when the army DOES NOT reach their monthly recruiting goals.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.
 

Zebo

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Four reasons

1. lower the goals
2. Lower the standards; dope smokers and high school drop outs welcome
3. It's graduation season
4. Pay more money.. Enlistment Bonuses have been raised to $40,000 from previous $20,000. Very attractive coming from a $5 an hour economy in some parts of america. Hell these kids prolly think it's like a million dollars.

I love it! make supply meet demand just like voluntary service should be. Hell you pay 2 million dollars and Ralf Nader would sign up.
 

Genx87

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How did they meet the goals in 1999 which is the last time we had such recruiting numbers?
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Just wondering why one of the military loving leftists here did not post this? Oh, I get it. It's only news when the army DOES NOT reach their monthly recruiting goals.

Hey, great troll bait! I know I for one have posted that the June numbers were met in another thread and am also very thankful they are. I have teenage boys who don't want to get drafted.

Big f'ing :thumbsup: for meeting their goals this month! Keep it up for another few years and we'll be just fine. Just so you know though, and I am sure you do know this but it did not fit into your Liberal jab, that June numbers are always some of the best numbers kind of due to the fact that high school seniors graduate in June and that is the month most of the ones who have turned 18 enlist if they are going to. But whatever feeds your hate...
 

BBond

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They didn't meet their goals. They lowered their goals to meet the number of recruits they could manage to sign up.

Big difference.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.

I realize that, but it clearly states that they've LOWERED their monthly goals.

May's recruiting goal was 6700 (down from just over 8000) and they signed up just over 5000.

June's recruiting goal was 5650 (down from May's 6700) and they signed up 6150. This is even LOWER than May's goal.

June Goals Reduced by Over 15%
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.

I realize that, but it clearly states that they've LOWERED their monthly goals.

For "May".

Find us a link for June

kthxbye
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.

I realize that, but it clearly states that they've LOWERED their monthly goals.

For "May".

Find us a link for June

kthxbye

Look above... you've just been... how should I put this.... nah, I won't do it. Too easy.

kthxbye
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.

I realize that, but it clearly states that they've LOWERED their monthly goals.

For "May".

Find us a link for June

kthxbye

if they had to lower the goals in the previous months doesn't that pretty much mean they are already behind? i'm too lazy to figure out how the numbers are being counted and compared. if they met the goals good for them.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Tommunist
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: ahurtt
So how did they do it? Lower their quotas?

Bingo.

Now With Link

Excerpt:

Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

Here's another link


Also, don't forget that some student are just graduating high school, so this is the natural time for them to be enlisting in higher numbers. Figure this as their "holiday season" if you will. Plus the numbers they got were STILL lower than their original monthly goals.

Note the date of the articles. The story I saw lastnight was talking about June numbers.

I realize that, but it clearly states that they've LOWERED their monthly goals.

For "May".

Find us a link for June

kthxbye

if they had to lower the goals in the previous months doesn't that pretty much mean they are already behind? i'm too lazy to figure out how the numbers are being counted and compared. if they met the goals good for them.

I edited my post above with June recruiting goals..
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Genx87
For "May".

Find us a link for June

kthxbye

Look above... you've just been... how should I put this.... nah, I won't do it. Too easy.

kthxbye


And with that, Genx will stop posting/not reply to your post. Welll done mate!
 

Zebo

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I think they should pay at least what our congress persons make. I mean the risk of getting your ass shot off, being told what to do 24/7, and sleeping on cots and eating MREs is worth at least that probably much more. But our congress critters are too tight with the money is the only reason we've had a shortfall these last couple years. Instead relying on bogus chanting of "patriot duty" for thier numbers w/o putting thier money where thier mouth is. how about they be more patriotic and how about they make a sacrifice and devote more dollars to the troops doing all the dirty work??
 

jjzelinski

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So being that the Army has lowered their recruiting goals, that must mean things are going much better in the ME than has been reported since we now (sponteneously) require less troops then has been forcasted for months/years. EIther that or this is just some sort of propoganda designed to asuage the negative image that has befallen the "war" and stiffled recruiting efforts...
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Zebo
I think they should pay at least what our congress persons make. I mean the risk of getting your ass shot off, being told what to do 24/7, and sleeping on cots and eating MREs is worth at least that probably much more. But our congress critters are too tight with the money is the only reason we've had a shortfall these last couple years. Instead relying on bogus chanting of "patriot duty" for thier numbers w/o putting thier money where thier mouth is. how about they be more patriotic and how about they make a sacrifice and devote more dollars to the troops doing all the dirty work??
And yet, amazingly, people still enlist, despite not getting paid $150k+ and being well aware of the risks involved. Imagine that.
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Zebo
I think they should pay at least what our congress persons make. I mean the risk of getting your ass shot off, being told what to do 24/7, and sleeping on cots and eating MREs is worth at least that probably much more. But our congress critters are too tight with the money is the only reason we've had a shortfall these last couple years. Instead relying on bogus chanting of "patriot duty" for thier numbers w/o putting thier money where thier mouth is. how about they be more patriotic and how about they make a sacrifice and devote more dollars to the troops doing all the dirty work??
And yet, amazingly, people still enlist, despite not getting paid $150k+ and being well aware of the risks involved. Imagine that.


Let's be clear that the military is having the most trouble filling the highest risk jobs such as infantry but can't turn away people enlisting for minimal risk jobs fast enough. The military is still a haven for people trying to improce their lot in life, despite the grave risk involved and not because of it.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Zebo
I think they should pay at least what our congress persons make. I mean the risk of getting your ass shot off, being told what to do 24/7, and sleeping on cots and eating MREs is worth at least that probably much more. But our congress critters are too tight with the money is the only reason we've had a shortfall these last couple years. Instead relying on bogus chanting of "patriot duty" for thier numbers w/o putting thier money where thier mouth is. how about they be more patriotic and how about they make a sacrifice and devote more dollars to the troops doing all the dirty work??
And yet, amazingly, people still enlist, despite not getting paid $150k+ and being well aware of the risks involved. Imagine that.


Let's be clear that the military is having the most trouble filling the highest risk jobs such as infantry but can't turn away people enlisting for minimal risk jobs fast enough. The military is still a haven for people trying to improce their lot in life, despite the grave risk involved and not because of it.

I assumed that went without saying. No one *wants* to take a bullet, but many are willing to take that chance for whatever reason they have, be it greed, honor, patriotism, escape, etc.