Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

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IronWing

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"Manages" land that we can't actually use, and if we try they attempt to bully the shit out of us, that's brilliant.

Of course you can use it, you just can't burn it down. Seems a reasonable balance to me.
 

Darwin333

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If anybody is interested in reading the 9th circuit decision.

Thanks for the read. I do agree that it is rather scary that a man can be tried, sentenced, carry out his sentence, be released and without committing any other crime the .gov can say "nope, we fucked up and didn't give you the correct sentence so back to jail with ya".
 

chucky2

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Yeah I know right! Drug dealers and gang members say the same shit! No big deal right?

Purple ought to have the right to defend their illegal activities, that's the American way!

Another moron who doesn't think before he types.

I'd think the same Bleeding Heart SJW crowd who sheds massive crocodile tears over drug dealers and gang members would be shedding the same over these poor oppressed people, driven to such a drastic act as enclosing themselves into an empty bldg (certainly much more damaging than dealing drugs or shooting 9 year olds), amirite?

SJW? Come on, I know you have some batshit logic you can apply here. We've got one in another thread going on here that it's absolutely cool to have a 47 year old man who thinks he's a 6 year old girl hang out with other 6 year old girls...if we can find that degree of crazy among the SJW crowd we've got to be able to find at least one non-biased SJW type to take up these folks cause. Are there no SJW to carry their burden? Is it because they're white? Not Left leaning? Dangit SJW... :'(
 

jackstar7

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If only the rich had easier access to all that land... I'm sure these regular people would really benefit from all of that prosperity that could be drained from it.
 

waggy

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I have no clue WHY they did it. but i do think that a armed storming of a federal office is a terrorist act.
 

IronWing

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I'd think the same Bleeding Heart SJW crowd who sheds massive crocodile tears over drug dealers and gang members would be shedding the same over these poor oppressed people, driven to such a drastic act as enclosing themselves into an empty bldg (certainly much more damaging than dealing drugs or shooting 9 year olds), amirite?

SJW? Come on, I know you have some batshit logic you can apply here. We've got one in another thread going on here that it's absolutely cool to have a 47 year old man who thinks he's a 6 year old girl hang out with other 6 year old girls...if we can find that degree of crazy among the SJW crowd we've got to be able to find at least one non-biased SJW type to take up these folks cause. Are there no SJW to carry their burden? Is it because they're white? Not Left leaning? Dangit SJW... :'(
Did this post actually make sense in your head? Try reading it aloud.
 

chucky2

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He's all in a tizzy because I'm not outraged by some guy that lives his life as a six year old girl.

Hell nah man, you've got a long way to go to Moonie entertainment, or Nick entertainment, but you've certainly at least hit Jhhhhnnn level of crazy, perhaps surpassing it. I mean, look at even your lame attempt here: You even get why everyone has a problem with your batshit'ness wrong - either you're that confused, or that gone. Talk about tizzy...
 

dank69

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Hell nah man, you've got a long way to go to Moonie entertainment, or Nick entertainment, but you've certainly at least hit Jhhhhnnn level of crazy, perhaps surpassing it. I mean, look at even your lame attempt here: You even get why everyone has a problem with your batshit'ness wrong - either you're that confused, or that gone. Talk about tizzy...
You're the one dragging another thread into this one where it makes no sense. That's the act of a guy really bent out of shape.
 
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"Manages" land that we can't actually use, and if we try they attempt to bully the shit out of us, that's brilliant.

You support these guys (most of whom appear to non locals) stealing the land from the rest of you? That's even more brilliant.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Again, was it non-violent? Anybody get shot? Most pictures I saw had signs, not guns.

So far no violence. At least one of the gunmen who traveled to Oregon from out of state expressed a wish to become a martyr in a gun battle with U.S. authorities.

“I didn’t come here to shoot, I came here to die,” said one militia member, who identified himself only as “Captain Moroni” — a name with great significance to Mormons and anti-government extremists.

So these guys are your basic nutty religious extremists then, with martyrdom in mind..

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Jhhnn

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"Manages" land that we can't actually use, and if we try they attempt to bully the shit out of us, that's brilliant.

Who's this "we"? Other than wildlife refuges, national forests & BLM lands are generally open to the public for a variety of purposes. They're also leased to ranchers.

Should they get something for nothing? Or do you support the private land grabs proposed by the Yeehawdis?
 

Jhhnn

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Hell nah man, you've got a long way to go to Moonie entertainment, or Nick entertainment, but you've certainly at least hit Jhhhhnnn level of crazy, perhaps surpassing it. I mean, look at even your lame attempt here: You even get why everyone has a problem with your batshit'ness wrong - either you're that confused, or that gone. Talk about tizzy...

If you can't address what I've offered in this thread then you're just trolling, right?
 

Zorba

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Oct 22, 1999
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Ok, you find where the fire was and let me know if people's houses were threatened and how much monetary damages were at risk.

Just like a conservative to think unexploited land is worthless. I bet you are the type of guy that would through a Coke bottle in Grand Canyon.
 

JD50

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I'd think the same Bleeding Heart SJW crowd who sheds massive crocodile tears over drug dealers and gang members would be shedding the same over these poor oppressed people, driven to such a drastic act as enclosing themselves into an empty bldg (certainly much more damaging than dealing drugs or shooting 9 year olds), amirite?

SJW? Come on, I know you have some batshit logic you can apply here. We've got one in another thread going on here that it's absolutely cool to have a 47 year old man who thinks he's a 6 year old girl hang out with other 6 year old girls...if we can find that degree of crazy among the SJW crowd we've got to be able to find at least one non-biased SJW type to take up these folks cause. Are there no SJW to carry their burden? Is it because they're white? Not Left leaning? Dangit SJW... :'(

I know it's been mentioned countless times here, but the "poor oppressed people" convicted of arson and poaching aren't the same people that are occupying federal land.
 

Jhhnn

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Kinda hard to do it on your own echo chamber.

Echo chamber? Imagine the one at the Malheur visitor center. Maybe they'll whip themselves up into a quasi-religious frenzy imaging themselves as martyrs to some great & just cause like John Brown.
 

Knowing

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Poaching in general is illegal. Especially so on a scale they did it.

Recruiting people to show up armed to take possession of Federal property isn't too bright an idea, I'm surprised myself many of the people here were not taken into custody after the Bundy ranch thing myself.

You another one that came into the thread spouting off BS per usual looking like a fool.

Nothing like throwing opinions around all over the place when you obviously had not taken the time to even find out what was go on to begin with.

I never said it wasn't, scale should be an aggravating factor. I don't believe in deer terrorism because deer aren't people. Now, if they dismembered the deer for the purposes of decorating the local game warden's property to send a message then I could see terrorism of humans via deer but I haven't seen any evidence of anything like that.

The Hammonds didn't recruit anyone, hence my concern that they will be tarnished by association.
 

Meghan54

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I've been a bit curious about the occupation of the building. I understand doing it, sorta continues the tradition of the hippies/civil rights/anti-war protestors of the 1960's, the whole civil disobedience thing to get someone to listen/pay attention.

And I keep reading stuff like this: “We don’t want it to end with violence,” said Ryan Bundy in an interview...“We’re not looking for bloodshed.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as...s-son-quietly-surrender/ar-AAglwTX?li=BBnb7Kz


But I'm confused......if the occupiers actually mean they want no bloodshed or violence, why do they have guns?