Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

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bshole

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Because burning some land with little to no value, exempt for cattle grazing, in the middle of nowhere, is the same.

Jesus how many FUCKING times do I have to say this. That isn't the problem. The problem is ARMED TRAITORS to America taking over a federal building. It would be helpful if you actually READ the posts.

Try the entire bunch for treason (the armed occupiers). They are a menace and they are terrorists.

A 20-year clash between Cliven Bundy and federal authorities in Nevada came to a head in 2014, after the rancher threatened to shoot any federal agent who attempted to remove any of his cattle that officials say were illegally grazing on public land.

The standoff briefly made Cliven Bundy a conservative darling, and it ended when officials with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management opted to stand down and allow Bundy to continue to graze on the federal land.

"When the federal government was stopped from enforcing the law at gunpoint, that energized this entire movement," said Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who said that Bundy's success has fueled a renewed rise in the number of anti-government activist groups and self-described militias. "When you have a big win like they did at the Bundy Ranch, it emboldens people. . . . It is definitely a recipe for disaster."

On further consideration, the occupiers are not the same people as the arsonists so I apologize for my confusion on that score. My beef is with the occupiers, the arsonists appear to be in compliance.
 
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Jhhnn

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I see we're playing the dictionary game! :D A favorite past-time of mine!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism



So now I'm left a little confused... you indicated you understood what the word "terrorism" means but you actually don't. It's as if your primary interest is in insulting others rather than having an intellectual discussion. I'm quite sure you enjoy the company of yourself :p

You're beyond dim. From your own link-

violent—or, equally important, threatens violence

Have the occupiers not threatened violence?

I suspect that the visitor center isn't staffed in the winter, so they have yet to do any significant harm. We'll see if they can work themselves up into a suicidal Masada style snit by spring.
 

jackstar7

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So now we have to be subject matter experts, employed in the field, for any shred of logic to apply?

Let me know when you start using logic in relation to fires, and then we can examine what you're saying and address whether an expert is required.
 

LegendKiller

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Let me know when you start using logic in relation to fires, and then we can examine what you're saying and address whether an expert is required.
Ok, you find where the fire was and let me know if people's houses were threatened and how much monetary damages were at risk.
 

MagickMan

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You didn't pay attention much in school, did you? Wow. Sorry but I don't have the time to educate you about how the federal government holds public lands and how it came to be that way. You are wrong and you are pulling shit out of your ass in a lame attempt to deflect away from that.

Your teachers should be ashamed of how you turned out.

More pathetic, stupid shit from you? Not surprised. You don't know, can't explain your position, but I'm at fault. I'm ashamed that anyone would mistake you for being human. :\
 

werepossum

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Personally I think the federal government should negotiate with these people, to learn their grievances and try to find a non-violent compromise that is fair for everybody.

Then shoot them.
 

MagickMan

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These 2 guys never attacked anyone--they didn't even have guns:
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Yet you and your kin were just a bag of emotion knee-jerking reaction mongers when they had the temerity to stand outside a polling station.

This has already been addressed, but racists like you... You guys imagine more outrage than there ever was to begin with, and it had little to do with being armed, people were much more upset about political demonstrations within a certain distance of the polls. Do you understand that?
 

MagickMan

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Go read my last few posts there they weren't rude asshole post unlike what has become common practice for a few, but thanks for showing how willing you are to go to the insults and name calling.

Don't start with an insult if you don't want to receive one in return, dumbass.
 

MagickMan

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Jesus how many FUCKING times do I have to say this. That isn't the problem. The problem is ARMED TRAITORS to America taking over a federal building. It would be helpful if you actually READ the posts.

Try the entire bunch for treason (the armed occupiers). They are a menace and they are terrorists.

Glad to see you're so stable and reasonable, you're so much better than the people protesting. D: Where were you when Baltimore was on fire?
 

blankslate

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Just because there are fatalities at the moment this doesn't mean they aren't terrorists.

They're occupying property that is not theirs.

They are armed and say they are willing to use force if anyone tries to remove them from that property against their will.

They want to change some a situation over a political dispute.


There have been other terrorist acts that didn't involve casualties in the past but that doesn't mean we don't call the people involved in those actions terrorists.


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ivwshane

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News at 9: People state they will defend themselves. Oh sh1t!!!!shift1!!!

Yeah I know right! Drug dealers and gang members say the same shit! No big deal right?

Purple ought to have the right to defend their illegal activities, that's the American way!

Another moron who doesn't think before he types.