Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

[MongGrel]

I am, it's a gorgeous evening here, the stars are lovely.

I'm sure they are.

 

[ivwshane]

Really? Citations?

Nope, you're just a raving, twisted, pro-establishment shitstain who wants Americans to be killed simply to further your agenda. You're a sick son of a bitch and you need professional help. I hope you get it.

Lol! Ok frothy

 

[MagickMan]

Lol! Ok frothy

That's what I thought. Fuck, you're pathetic. :\

 

[DrDoug]

That's what I thought. Fuck, you're pathetic. :\

... and when it comes to fucking pathetic, you're an expert at it. We get it, you support the men with guns who are hiding behind their women and children to take a stand against the G-men by occupying a wildlife ceonter. Tyranny and all that blather aside, these 'men' are going to interpret the constitution for themselves and enforce the property rights in the area as they see fit. They will decide how the locals can use their land, not the government! God sent Ammon so his cause must be just!

Go ahead and support these 'men', they're all yours.

 

[MongGrel]

MagickMan seems to be on some moronic "lets see how many people I can call names" binge atm for some reason.

While looking like a Chihuahua on LSD.

 

[MagickMan]

... and when it comes to fucking pathetic, you're an expert at it. We get it, you support the men with guns who are hiding behind their women and children to take a stand against the G-men by occupying a wildlife ceonter. Tyranny and all that blather aside, these 'men' are going to interpret the constitution for themselves and enforce the property rights in the area as they see fit. They will decide how the locals can use their land, not the government! God sent Ammon so his cause must be just!

Go ahead and support these 'men', they're all yours.

Aha! And there's the issue (finally). I've not said I support them, in fact I don't support their methods, but I'm willing to listen to what they have to say. Hell, I was willing to listen to what Black Lives Matter had to say, until I realized the "movement" was just another ploy and attempt to shift blame.

Now that people might actually pay attention to what they're upset about, do you think it's possible to discuss that? Or do we just keep talking shit?

 

[MongGrel]

Aha! And there's the issue (finally). I've not said I support them, in fact I don't support their methods, but I'm willing to listen to what they have to say. Hell, I was willing to listen to what Black Lives Matter had to say, until I realized the "movement" was just another ploy and attempt to shift blame.

Now that people might actually pay attention to what they're upset about, do you think it's possible to discuss that? Or do we just keep talking shit?

Yap, yap, yap.

 

[MagickMan]

MagickMan seems to be on some moronic "lets see how many people I can call names" binge atm for some reason.

While looking like a Chihuahua on Acid.

Wow, behind your right ear it reads "700 lumens", fascinating. :\

 

[MagickMan]

Fap.Fap.Fap.

That's more like it, isn't it? Be honest for once.

 

[MongGrel]

That's more like it, isn't it? Be honest for once.

What drugs are you on ?

So I can avoid them at all costs.

 

[DrDoug]

Aha! And there's the issue (finally). I've not said I support them, in fact I don't support their methods, but I'm willing to listen to what they have to say. Hell, I was willing to listen to what Black Lives Matter had to say, until I realized the "movement" was just another ploy and attempt to shift blame.

Now that people might actually pay attention to what they're upset about, do you think it's possible to discuss that? Or do we just keep talking shit?

You had me until "until". What you say there sounds an awful lot like "I'm not a racist but..."

You like white guys with guns who hide behind their women and children while overthrowing the government. There's no "until" with them for you because they're rebels without a clue, much like you. I live here in Oregon and these out of state assholes can go back to their own states where they belong. They have nothing worth listening to because the principals in 'cause' they they have appropriated as their own want nothing to do with them. If anything, these assholes might make it worse for the two men if they are thought of as siding with them. Of course, nutjobs like you would just say that this proves that they can't ask for help from the militia because of the law.

You have nothing because your arguments are founded in nothing.

 

[ivwshane]

Aha! And there's the issue (finally). I've not said I support them, in fact I don't support their methods, but I'm willing to listen to what they have to say. Hell, I was willing to listen to what Black Lives Matter had to say, until I realized the "movement" was just another ploy and attempt to shift blame.

Now that people might actually pay attention to what they're upset about, do you think it's possible to discuss that? Or do we just keep talking shit?

Oh really? And what do they have to say? Or do you need extra time to process what's been going on because it's a weekend and your tv shows haven't told you what to think yet?

 

[MagickMan]

You had me until "until". What you say there sounds an awful lot like "I'm not a racist but..."

Nope, it's not race exclusive, it's happened on a smaller scale with people of other ethnicities.

You like white guys with guns who hide behind their women and children while overthrowing the government. There's no "until" with them for you because they're rebels without a clue, much like you. I live here in Oregon and these out of state assholes can go back to their own states where they belong. They have nothing worth listening to because the principals in 'cause' they they have appropriated as their own want nothing to do with them. If anything, these assholes might make it worse for the two men if they are thought of as siding with them. Of course, nutjobs like you would just say that this proves that they can't ask for help from the militia because of the law.

Nope, sure don't... and the rest is twaddle.

You have nothing because your arguments are founded in nothing.

More useless shit from you.

 

[ivwshane]

If it quacks like a duck...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dd62...ches-warily-armed-protesters-take-over-refuge

Keith Landon, a longtime resident of Burns and employee at the Reid Country Store, said he knows local law enforcement officials who fear their kids will be targeted by angry militia members. The mother of one of his kids is now involved with an officer, Landon said, and they decided to send their children to another town after they were allegedly threatened by an angry protester.

"I'm hoping most of it's just muscle, trying to push," Landon said. "But it's a scary thing."

At a restaurant near the refuge Sunday, a local man eating supper said he understood the sentiment but didn't necessarily support the methods of the group. He wouldn't give his name because he said he feared being caught between the federal government and the militia.

 

[MagickMan]

Oh really? And what do they have to say? Or do you need extra time to process what's been going on because it's a weekend and your tv shows haven't told you what to think yet?

You watch TV? Fuck, I've not had TV since Bush II was in office.

I believe the 2 guys at the heart of this got railroaded, and the BLM has done a shit job of working with the local ranchers, making life harder for them than it ever should be, and none of the federal courts want to even listen to them. They feel like their backs are against the wall and they have no recourse. As I said before, they have valid gripes, but I don't believe they're handling it correctly.

 

[ivwshane]

You watch TV? Fuck, I've not had TV since Bush II was in office.

I believe the 2 guys at the heart of this got railroaded, and the BLM has done a shit job of working with the local ranchers, making life harder for them than it ever should be, and none of the federal courts want to even listen to them. They feel like their backs are against the wall and they have no recourse. As I said before, they have valid gripes, but I don't believe they're handling it correctly.

So not only do you not know what's going on but you apparently get your news from only the internet and I can only imagine the websites you deem worthy of your time.
No wonder you are an idiot.

 

[MongGrel]

You watch TV? Fuck, I've not had TV since Bush II was in office.

I believe the 2 guys at the heart of this got railroaded, and the BLM has done a shit job of working with the local ranchers, making life harder for them than it ever should be, and none of the federal courts want to even listen to them. They feel like their backs are against the wall and they have no recourse. As I said before, they have valid gripes, but I don't believe they're handling it correctly.

I believe you're full of shit, and never have read the original links or are just really stupid.

But you're trolling of course, like you have been in a few threads non stop the last few hours.

The locals do not even want those guys there.

You're just quacking, with limited brain cells it appears.

 

[DrDoug]

You watch TV? Fuck, I've not had TV since Bush II was in office.

I believe the 2 guys at the heart of this got railroaded, and the BLM has done a shit job of working with the local ranchers, making life harder for them than it ever should be, and none of the federal courts want to even listen to them. They feel like their backs are against the wall and they have no recourse. As I said before, they have valid gripes, but I don't believe they're handling it correctly.

What you believe doesn't mean that you are right, it's just your uninformed opinion. I live here, I know this story and this father and son did not get railroaded, they have a long history in the area. They were convicted by a jury of their peers, locals. Everything was a local matter regarding federal issues and laws until the Bundy militia decided to move here and adopt the cause as their own because they've been out of the news too long (or whatever spurred them). They were not invited, they are interlopers. We want them to leave, now.

This isn't his Dad's ranch and the land he was leasing that he was fighting for, this is the property of the government and they have decided to take it over for themselves. Call it free federal housing, militia style. They are moving in and declaring that they are the law in the area (regarding property rights) and they will make the decision if something is constitutional or not. Other militia members who were at the rally last weekend were surprised by Bundy's actions and some even condemned him for it. One last question: If the BLM is such a problem for the locals then why do they want the damned milita to leave?

Answer that, genius.

 

[ivwshane]

You've explained this story several times now (I thank you) and he still made that ridiculous post, what makes you think he'll get it this time?

What you believe doesn't mean that you are right, it's just your uninformed opinion. I live here, I know this story and this father and son did not get railroaded, they have a long history in the area. They were convicted by a jury of their peers, locals. Everything was a local matter regarding federal issues and laws until the Bundy militia decided to move here and adopt the cause as their own because they've been out of the news too long (or whatever spurred them). They were not invited, they are interlopers. We want them to leave, now.

This isn't his Dad's ranch and the land he was leasing that he was fighting for, this is the property of the government and they have decided to take it over for themselves. Call it free federal housing, militia style. They are moving in and declaring that they are the law in the area (regarding property rights) and they will make the decision if something is constitutional or not. Other militia members who were at the rally last weekend were surprised by Bundy's actions and some even condemned him for it. One last question: If the BLM is such a problem for the locals then why do they want the damned milita to leave?

Answer that, genius.

 

[DrDoug]

You've explained this story several times now (I thank you) and he still made that ridiculous post, what makes you think he'll get it this time?

He won't, he'll just deflect off onto something else to prove that I'm wrong and he's right...lol! It's what happens when someone goes off half-cocked and then decides to double down. It's maturity, one day they might learn to deal with it.

And then again, maybe not.

 

[MagickMan]

So not only do you not know what's going on but you apparently get your news from only the internet and I can only imagine the websites you deem worthy of your time.
No wonder you are an idiot.

You're all over the goddamned place. "Having TV is bad", "Not having TV is bad", listening to your fucked up "reasoning" is enough to give sane people whiplash. I get most of my news from CNN and Drudge, I imagine you spend most of your time on MSNBC, Motherjones, and HuffPo. Right? Figures. Stupid fucker.

 

[MagickMan]

What you believe doesn't mean that you are right, it's just your uninformed opinion. I live here, I know this story and this father and son did not get railroaded, they have a long history in the area. They were convicted by a jury of their peers, locals. Everything was a local matter regarding federal issues and laws until the Bundy militia decided to move here and adopt the cause as their own because they've been out of the news too long (or whatever spurred them). They were not invited, they are interlopers. We want them to leave, now.

This isn't his Dad's ranch and the land he was leasing that he was fighting for, this is the property of the government and they have decided to take it over for themselves. Call it free federal housing, militia style. They are moving in and declaring that they are the law in the area (regarding property rights) and they will make the decision if something is constitutional or not. Other militia members who were at the rally last weekend were surprised by Bundy's actions and some even condemned him for it. One last question: If the BLM is such a problem for the locals then why do they want the damned milita to leave?

Answer that, genius.

Answer what? Your views are just that, and they run counter to others I've read from there (and actual gov't reports). Given your agenda I can't take you very seriously on that.

 

[ivwshane]

You're all over the goddamned place. "Having TV is bad", "Not having TV is bad", listening to your fucked up "reasoning" is enough to give sane people whiplash. I get most of my news from CNN and Drudge, I imagine you spend most of your time on MSNBC, Motherjones, and HuffPo. Right? Figures. Stupid fucker.

That's not what I said at all but it's not surprising you didn't understand it.
Can we all assume you are drunk right now?

 

[MongGrel]

You're all over the goddamned place. "Having TV is bad", "Not having TV is bad", listening to your fucked up "reasoning" is enough to give sane people whiplash. I get most of my news from CNN and Drudge, I imagine you spend most of your time on MSNBC, Motherjones, and HuffPo. Right? Figures. Stupid fucker.

Permission to run a full GIF Nuclear Strike on MagickMan from the Admin's.

I won't get it, but the forum has gotten a bit stunted I guess that way.

Has gotten a very lame in those ways.

The new owners have sucked a lot of the life out of it.

Has went from Fury Road to Sponge Bob, with lame low end trolls allowed to roam free.

 

[MagickMan]

He won't, he'll just deflect off onto something else to prove that I'm wrong and he's right...lol! It's what happens when someone goes off half-cocked and then decides to double down. It's maturity, one day they might learn to deal with it.

And then again, maybe not.

Your opinion is your opinion, the fact you're distorting information right out of the gate makes you suspect. Do you believe the gov't should even own that much land west of the Mississippi? They shouldn't even be landlords in the first place. Do you see a problem here?