Armed Militia Members take over Federal Building in Oregon

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TechBoyJK

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so why did the cops open fire and kill him? the cops arent saying shit and the witness are claiming he had his hands up and got capped in the head and 2 in the chest. sounds like target practice to me.:thumbsdown:

As you probably know by now.. that entire 'innocent' premise is terribly wrong.

The lunatic got himself killed, and it was absolutely, text book justified.

like.. if there EVER was a justified shooting, this was the one.

His own men are saying the guy freaked out and charged cops.
 

trenchfoot

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I guess their commitment to their cause was as shallow as an image in a mirror, although I do get the feeling this "revolution" of theirs ain't over yet.

In this instance, a classic case of talking the talk but not walking the walk.

For those truly deranged "patriots" who really are willing to martyr themselves to get free use of federal lands, the death of their fellow revolutionary is a rallying call to arms, proof of their greatest fears, a prime motivator to act out in some way to make a statement.

As misguided as he was, at least there was one guy among the lot who was willing to die for the cause he believed in.

The rest of them? I guess money was after all their base motivator, something that they weren't willing to mount a suicidal banzai charge over.

Their Alamo ain't anything like the one in Texas.
 

Jhhnn

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As you probably know by now.. that entire 'innocent' premise is terribly wrong.

The lunatic got himself killed, and it was absolutely, text book justified.

like.. if there EVER was a justified shooting, this was the one.

His own men are saying the guy freaked out and charged cops.

Suicide by cop.

The whole thing is a sad cautionary tale- Be careful what you believe in.
 

werepossum

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werepossum

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Nah, you can believe in anything you want; just don't be a violent asshole about it.
:D +1

If one occupies someone else's property peacefully, while unarmed, there should be a reasonable expectation of one's safety. If one occupies someone else's property while visibly armed, there should not be a reasonable expectation of one's safety.
 

adairusmc

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SMOGZINN

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I guess their commitment to their cause was as shallow as an image in a mirror, although I do get the feeling this "revolution" of theirs ain't over yet.

In this instance, a classic case of talking the talk but not walking the walk.

For those truly deranged "patriots" who really are willing to martyr themselves to get free use of federal lands, the death of their fellow revolutionary is a rallying call to arms, proof of their greatest fears, a prime motivator to act out in some way to make a statement.

As misguided as he was, at least there was one guy among the lot who was willing to die for the cause he believed in.

The rest of them? I guess money was after all their base motivator, something that they weren't willing to mount a suicidal banzai charge over.

Their Alamo ain't anything like the one in Texas.

This is something I've been saying for in a number of different threads. There is a big difference between someone that is willing to kill for his cause, and someone that is willing to die for it.

You can kill someone that is willing to kill for his cause and it is over. But someone that is willing to die for his cause is many times more dangerous. Not only is he much harder to stop, but kill him and you just prove his point and convince others that his cause is worth dying for.
 

Caravaggio

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Good one.

"La revolution oui, mais le chienlit, non."

(Charles de Gaulle, May 1968.)

Same applies today. These guys are not revolutionary heroes. They are "crapping in their own beds" like children.

(De Gaulle was punning 'chit' and 'chien'. Shit and dog. Sleeping with your dog and crapping yourself are used together)
 

werepossum

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This is something I've been saying for in a number of different threads. There is a big difference between someone that is willing to kill for his cause, and someone that is willing to die for it.

You can kill someone that is willing to kill for his cause and it is over. But someone that is willing to die for his cause is many times more dangerous. Not only is he much harder to stop, but kill him and you just prove his point and convince others that his cause is worth dying for.
Except in this case they killed him and convinced others that his cause is not worth dying for.
 

WelshBloke

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I think this should be forever referred to as the Dildo Rebellion; it was run by dildos, supplied with dildos and heated by burning dildos.

In the end it just petered out... :biggrin:

Oooooh, this needs to happen.

Someone post it to reddit. Those guys have lots of time on their hands and the obsessive personalities and lack of personal life to get stuff done.

Edit: don't Google "the Dildo Rebellion".
 
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DrDoug

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Oooooh, this needs to happen.

Someone post it to reddit. Those guys have lots of time on their hands and the obsessive personalities and lack of personal life to get stuff done.

Edit: don't Google "the Dildo Rebellion".

I'll check that out later...lol!

I guess that the arrest of Jason Patrick was a betrayal by the FBI and too much for the PPN (Pacific Patriot Network) to bear...

Only a handful of occupiers remained at the bird sanctuary Thursday morning when the Pacific Patriot Network issued its call for support. The group's members had helped persuade Patrick to leave the refuge, said Joseph Rice, a founding member from Grants Pass. The FBI had assured them that Patrick would be given safe passage out of the area, Rice said Wednesday night. He described the FBI taking Patrick into custody at a nearby checkpoint as a betrayal.

On Thursday morning, BJ Soper, a founding member of the group from Redmond, echoed the sentiment on Facebook and called for a dramatic response. "The events of the last few days in burns have culminated into a lot of massive frustration and anger," Soper wrote. "The lies and mistrust used to arrest Jason Patrick last night were dirty and caused any trust left in the tank with the fbi to be lost," he said. Soper called for thousands of people to converge on Burns peacefully to tell the FBI to leave.
This moron is calling for "thousands" of militia guys to show up in Burns immediately after this shit is almost over?! Go right ahead asshole, we've got Feds, State Troopers, local police and sheriffs from surrounding counties crawling all over eastern Oregon right now just looking for idiots to arrest. This line from the militia asshole says it all:

He said they will try to maintain public safety. But if the group numbers in the thousands, Soper said, "we can't guarantee anything."
There's no need for him to worry, I'm pretty damned sure our law enforcement over here have a guarantee of their own waiting for him and his fellow idiots. As a final laugh, how much would you want to bet that the guy calling for militia to return to Burns won't be one of the guys to show up? The reason I say this is that during the live streaming the night of the arrests when the militia guys at the preserve were calling for reinforcements, chatter from other militia men out there was that they really wanted to be there with them but if this was 'the big one' then they had to stay at home to defend their families and community from the government...lol!

They want a battle with the government but as Ammon rudely found out, they want someone else to fight it for them.
 

IronWing

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Isn't Oregon ground zero for the craft beer industry? Would not "Dildo Rebellion" be an awesome name for said beer?
 

MongGrel

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I think they ran out of everything. Word is that on one stream earlier one of the morons was saying that a militia member left and took some of the other guys mags. I guess there's no honor among militia...lol!

I think this should be forever referred to as the Dildo Rebellion; it was run by dildos, supplied with dildos and heated by burning dildos.

In the end it just petered out... :biggrin:

Oooooh, this needs to happen.

Someone post it to reddit. Those guys have lots of time on their hands and the obsessive personalities and lack of personal life to get stuff done.

Edit: don't Google "the Dildo Rebellion".

It is always how I will remember it in the future now at any rate :)
 
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DrDoug

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