I was so happy when I saw it was above M1 Max and then I noticed it was the e-core 😂
In all fairness, the Steam deck (Zen 2 at 3.5ghz - proxy for PS5/XSX) really isn't that far ahead and there are other A78 configurations at similar frequency which gives better results...
30% in the age where we say 20% gen on gen improvement is a lot, hmm.
But they won't end up in the Switch. Probably the differences are down to cache layouts.
In the context of Switch 2 though? 30-40% difference in CPU performance shouldn't be a dealbreaker in terms of porting PS5/XSX games, given the inherently lower graphical/framerate targets (or indeed PS6-gen games given those are unlikely to have super elaborate CPU setups) . Considering what the Switch was able to get later in its lifecycle (Doom/Witcher 3 etc).
Well, I remember people complaining about Pokemon frame-rates on original Switch. I also looked up Witcher 3 on Switch and well, the crowd density in cities compared to PC doesn't look hmm, good😉 Of course you can argue the game works, and the number of NPCs in the city doesn't influence that, and technically you will be right, but for some the it might hurt immersion, etc.
Comparing to a (high-end) PC is just gonna end up badly for pretty much any Console though, let alone a mobile one. The point of comparison should be with contemporary consoles, it's not like the PS4/Xbone were great on the CPU side themselves, nor is the PS5/XSX circa 2025.
I never said I compared to a high-end PC. I played this game on a laptop with i5-4210H and gtx 950 and crowds looked better than on Switch.
Well, I might have been misunderstood. But let's compare to XSX. At the time of release, it was lagging the PC market by 1 gen (Zen2 derivative vs Zen3). Switch 2 will lag the "state of the art" by 4 gens when it will release. And I am not counting the fact we have X cores now. So yes, XSX is not great on CPU front, but still usable, as Zen 2 is still usable CPU, 5 years after release. Will we be able to tell the same about Switch 2? Only time will tell😉
Not even the CIX SoC on the Radxa O6 is said to beat the M1, and thats an octa A720...
For the kids using a Switch it's also really famous nearly 8 years later for some absolute crap 3rd party games and ports. And the Switch 2 is shaping up the same way.
Even taking aside that as a function of high fab costs and high margin business elsewhere, the hardware shift between next console gen and current is almost certainly much less than PS4/Xbone-> PS5/XSX (see how underwhelming the PS5 pro is spec-wise) , which should help with those porting issues... Nintendo never really marketed the Switch as a 'one gaming device and done' deal anyway, nor could it credibly do so given how much 3rd party stuff isn't gonna be on there.
It is part of the appeal of a dockable (handheld and console) with an adaptable control scheme. If could do everything well if only Nintendo could throw 3rd party developers a bone.
i dont know if this has been posted here but 8xA78 has better efficient than steam deck, so at reasonable power switch 2 will be better than many x86 handheld.
I suggest to re-evaluate this opinion. First by looking at the attached graphs. Second by translating the tweet (courtesy of google translate):
So yes, Switch2 might be able to clock lower but graphs do not show that it would have better perf/W ratio than competition, quite the opposite if we allow at least 1W per core.
To stay on topic, do we ever get any leaks about new ARM designs? x64 leaks quite often but I haven't seen anything about x930, or x925, x3 etc in the past.
purple line (8 core) shows its more efficient at any power level?
My bad, the picture loaded malformed on my side and I did not see the legend, so assumed only green is representing nVidia.
Still 4+ months to late May when they usually announce the annual IP line up.
Actually probably not.
Also, is time to see how A530 is. Now I am thinking that is about to ditch the In Order Core unless they release an A630 variant being Out of Order, but based on the A530.
