Discussion ARM Cortex/Neoverse IP + SoCs (no custom cores) Discussion

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DZero

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soresu

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So, ARM should announce the A730 soon.
Won't be called that.

My money is on Pro A1 for A730, and Nano A1 for A530 going by their declared market segment branding.

Either way it seems like they are resetting to the number 1 for all new IPs in this generation, following the recent Qualcomm type numbering scheme.

Lol, X series is gonna look weird tho:

X3 -> X4 -> X925 -> Ultra A1 😆
 

Geddagod

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That's actually the way-harder part.
Clocking high IPC cores up without area and power exploding is real tough.
Old comment ik, but Apple's P-core is like 50% larger than the x925 in area, when not including the L2 sram arrays for the x925.
I imagine they have the area budget to spend.
Apple has been pushing Fmax consistently since the M1, I think ARM can do so as well.
 

DZero

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Won't be called that.

My money is on Pro A1 for A730, and Nano A1 for A530 going by their declared market segment branding.

Either way it seems like they are resetting to the number 1 for all new IPs in this generation, following the recent Qualcomm type numbering scheme.

Lol, X series is gonna look weird tho:

X3 -> X4 -> X925 -> Ultra A1 😆
Funny story Mediatek mentioned 3 BIG cores!
Travis - Ultra A Core
Alto - X9XX Core
Gelas - A7XX core

Don't be surprised if Mediatek moves the Dimensity 9500 AND 8500 into those cores... We already know the 9500.
But as for 8500, my guess is that they will use 2 Alto cores and 6 Gelas ones to finally having more Ultra cores instead of using only A7XX cores.

And that could lead into massive revamps in their 7500 and 6500 lines since Qualcomm moved the upper hand with the SD 7 Gen 4 and 6 Gen 4.
 

soresu

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Funny story Mediatek mentioned 3 BIG cores!
Travis - Ultra A Core
Alto - X9XX Core
Gelas - A7XX core
Ye pretty old news at this point.

In fact that Korean ARM rumor site I was talking about last year mentioned Alto as filler segment between A7xx and X9nn before anyone else, makes me wonder what their source is.