ARM Announces 32-bit Cortex A17 Core

[Homeles]

No, what matters first is to have the right SoC and Intel failed badly: their BT GPU performance is only adequate for low/mid-range tablets; we still haven't seen the smartphone SoC using Silvermont; and Android is still MIA on BT.

I have heard this often enough that I won't believe it until I see products

I think we've been off topic long enough, we'll resume that discussion later I guess

I've got one last thing to say... have you not seen how huge of an improvement Silvermont is? There are "products" already on the market.

 

[krumme]

What Intel needs is customers that prefers to buy from them. No matter what they have. Who is that customer?

 

[krumme]

Its arm who says a17 is midrange.

As it is now a lot of low end stuff is dual core a9 on 40nm and my guess is the h2 2014 is quad core a12 for that same market but now on depreciated 28nm. A15 take that spot h1 2015 in a little big combination with a7.

Sounds like plenty of power to me. Isnt it like quadcore qq s600 speed?

 

[witeken]

Who is that customer?

I would guess every company that wants to have the fastest CPU, and soon GPU.

 

[Homeles]

Not sure on the GPU. I do think it's a matter of time before they're competing for top spot, rather than being in the middle of the pack (or wherever they are), but GPUs rely heavily on process tech. If 14nm and 10nm continue to be delayed, they won't be able to steal that spot. What Intel really needs to do is focus less on compute and more on texture and fillrate performance. Once they've done that, they'll have a very competitive product.

But yeah, Intel has plenty of customers already. Bay Trail's doing really well. They still have a lot to go before they begin to make a profit, but it's inevitable at this point. The T100 was a slam dunk, and if they get the new Nexus, they'll be all set. There's basically no question that they'll get a Surface win this coming year as well.

Smartphones are still "iffy," though. It's unclear whether Merrifeild will do well, as much as I wish it would (I want x86 in a phone so badly). It's coming out way too late, unfortunately. Regardless, they should start displacing Qualcomm. Once their cheaper offerings debut later this year, they'll take the smartphone world by storm. But we won't really see that until next year.

 

[Nothingness]

Meizu MX4 phone uses MediaTek MT6595 and it shows some very nice Geekbench score: Cortex-A15 in Note 3 vs Cortex-A17 in Meizu MX4.

 

[jdubs03]

Meizu MX4 phone uses MediaTek MT6595 and it shows some very nice Geekbench score: Cortex-A15 in Note 3 vs Cortex-A17 in Meizu MX4.

Not too shabby for single-thread.

 

[cbn]

Rockchip RK3288 uses the Cortex A17 with Mali T764.

It is used in the following set-top boxes and HDMI stick:

http://www.geekbuying.com/category/Android-MINI-PCs-505/?c=1014&v=1608&freeshipping=3

 

[Nothingness]

Not too shabby for single-thread.

Yes, it's close to Apple A7 (when the latter runs in 32-bit mode). Of course the frequency of the A7 is much lower, but this shows two design points: high IPC / low freq (1.3GHz) for the A7 and lower IPC / higher freq (2.2GHz) for the Cortex-A17.

 

[Nothingness]

Rockchip RK3288 uses the Cortex A17 with Mali T764.

Yes, here is a result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/786009?baseline=797416

Funny thing to note is that the CPU part number is 3085 while the MediaTek part number is 3086. I guess this is related to the Cortex-A12 vs Cortex-A17 story :biggrin: