Arkansas judge strikes down same sex marriage ban.

[mikeymikec]

Sex, not love, is the distinguishing characteristic of marriage. So I think it is fair to say that marriage is about sex not love.

I would suggest you should conduct a survey asking newly weds why they got married. "So we can have sex" is going to be ranking pretty low in the results.

So basically your argument is that the reason for marriage is dead therefore gay marriage :\

Everything that survives evolves. Marriage has evolved over the centuries. But because you don't like the idea of gays getting married, "marriage is/must/will die". Logic not found.

(1) Humans can easily be in a relationship without being married. In fact being in a relationship prior to marriage is almost required

Yes, and?

(2) Sounds an awful lot like the old reason for marriage huh?

Yes, marriage has evolved over the centuries, congratulations for noticing that.

(3) Sound like an argument for polygamy.

Except it wasn't, so don't try to de-rail.

You still haven't conceded the point you made earlier that I've called you on.

 

[Retro Rob]

Inanimate objects cannot enter into contracts. There's nothing about equality there, it is just the simple fact that an object cannot consent to marriage.

Of course, you know I don't believe that object marriage BS. I really just wanted to have a bit of fun, though.

 

[Atreus21]

It is only YOUR OPINION that homosexuality is wrong. It naturally occurs in hundreds of species, including humanity. However, being conservative is not natural and is fundamentally wrong in my opinion, you think it should be ok that I push to ban rights and privileges to those who are conservative? Just because you don't like something doesn't make it abnormal or wrong, it makes you close-minded.

A great variety of behaviors occur in various species, such as eating the father of your children, incest, and plenty of others.

Is there any type of sexual behavior you would call deviant? Or immoral?

 

[K1052]

So is telling hetero couples to get a room because you don't want to see them slobbing each other on TV enough for you to be suspended from your job?

On exactly what planet do you live?

I actually need you to explain to me how thinking a gay kiss is "yucky" a violation of an anti-harassment policy.

Who was being harassed? Michael Sam sure wasn't.

He said "Horrible". I can see how that could be interpreted to be a statement against policy. The rest of your argument just devolves into some bizarre analogy to heterosexual PDAs which doesn't actually fit since...they are everywhere...all the time.

I'd actually pay good money to see you in a room with Michael Sam and explain your interpretation of this to him.

 

[nehalem256]

I would suggest you should conduct a survey asking newly weds why they got married. "So we can have sex" is going to be ranking pretty low in the results.

And? You love plenty of people. Why aren't you married to all of them?

Everything that survives evolves. Marriage has evolved over the centuries. But because you don't like the idea of gays getting married, "marriage is/must/will die". Logic not found.

The core idea of marriage has stayed the same I think. Things like how you choose who you are married to may have changed.

But that is like saying the definition of a car has changed because now people prefer cars with a higher MPG.

You still haven't conceded the point you made earlier that I've called you on.

Which one would that be? I said I stand by the idea that sex not love is the distinguishing characteristic of marriage.

 

[Atreus21]

Who is better at raising children? Gay parents or straight parents?

 

[Retro Rob]

i'd actually pay good money to see you in a room with Michael Sam and explain your interpretation of this to him.

Naahh... I'd rather not share a room for any amount of time with a rapist.

I'm sure you'd enjoy it, though....

 

[brycejones]

Who is better at raising children? Gay parents or straight parents?

How does that matter honestly? Some are going to be great parents, some are going to be ok, and some are going to suck.

Reason to discriminate on who can marry who not found.

 

[Atreus21]

How does that matter honestly? Some are going to be great parents, some are going to be ok, and some are going to suck.

Reason to discriminate on who can marry who not found.

It's just a question I'd like an answer to.

Without any ability to get granular, in general, who is the ideal set of parents by gender and number? Would anyone disagree that one man and one woman is the ideal parenting setup?

 

[Cozarkian]

A great variety of behaviors occur in various species, such as eating the father of your children, incest, and plenty of others.

Is there any type of sexual behavior you would call deviant? Or immoral?

Let's assume there is a heterosexual man who enjoys having his prostate stimulated by asking his female partner to insert a dildo into his anus. Let's go further and assume he or his female partner also enjoy having the male urinate in her vagina.

I would say they have a deviant sexual relationship. Should they be denied the right to marry on those grounds?

 

[Atreus21]

Let's assume there is a heterosexual man who enjoys having his prostate stimulated by asking his female partner to insert a dildo into his anus. Let's go further and assume he or his female partner also enjoy having the male urinate in her vagina.

I would say they have a deviant sexual relationship. Should they be denied the right to marry on those grounds?

No.

Should a man who has sex with 20 women a day, in public, be denied the right to marry? Should he even be rebuked?

 

[K1052]

Naahh... I'd rather not share a room for any amount of time with a rapist.

I'm sure you'd enjoy it, though....

I assume you are referring to the Menu Courey incident, which he (a gay male) was not implicated in.

It is nice to see how thin the veneer of your fake civility is though. Good to get to know the real you.

 

[Retro Rob]

I assume you are referring to the Menu Courey incident, which he (a gay male) was not implicated in.

It is nice to see how thin the veneer of your fake civility is though. Good to get to know the real you.

Actually, I had no idea that situation took place, and don't misinterpret my civility...I was responding in like manner because I thought you were being a smart-arse.

No biggie.

 

[smackababy]

It's just a question I'd like an answer to.

Without any ability to get granular, in general, who is the ideal set of parents by gender and number? Would anyone disagree that one man and one woman is the ideal parenting setup?

Ideal? Hardly. Because parenting has so little to do with gender. A man and a women can easily screw up a child just as bad as two men or two women. The actions thought to have positive effects on the character of children is not gender specific.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Would anyone disagree that one man and one woman is the ideal parenting setup?

I would disagree. One man and one woman is way too limited of a view. Most cultures don't even believe that one woman and one man is the best solution, as one of our First Ladies once eloquently pointed out by stating that 'it takes a village to raise a child'. She was of course referring to the fact that most cultures on Earth have much more polyamorous setups that do not closely resemble the almost entirely Christian concept of one man to one woman.

 

[K1052]

Actually, I had no idea that situation took place, and don't misinterpret my civility...I was responding in like manner because I thought you were being a smart-arse.

No biggie.

right

 

[MrPickins]

Who is better at raising children? Gay parents or straight parents?

Who are better at raising children: single mothers or gay couples?

 

[Retro Rob]

right

You don't have to believe me, but you should stop being so sensitive.

 

[nehalem256]

I would disagree. One man and one woman is way too limited of a view. Most cultures don't even believe that one woman and one man is the best solution, as one of our First Ladies once eloquently pointed out by stating that 'it takes a village to raise a child'. She was of course referring to the fact that most cultures on Earth have much more polyamorous setups that do not closely resemble the almost entirely Christian concept of one man to one woman.

So you are suggesting that we throw away the marriage concept used to form modern civilization and instead embrace that used by ones that remained primitive?

 

[Retro Rob]

Who are better at raising children: single mothers or gay couples?

Single mothers.

 

[MrPickins]

And? You love plenty of people. Why aren't you married to all of them?

Proof that nehalem doesn't understand romantic love...

 

[nehalem256]

Who are better at raising children: single mothers or gay couples?

Are you suggesting that we take children away from unmarried women and give them to gay couples? :sneaky:

 

[nehalem256]

Proof that nehalem doesn't understand romantic love...

And what distinguishes romantic love from platonic love? :hmm:

 

[MrPickins]

Single mothers.

Now you trollin...

 

[MrPickins]

And what distinguishes romantic love from platonic love? :hmm:

If you have to ask you'll never know.


(Seriously, do you have Asperger syndrome or something?)

Are you suggesting that we take children away from unmarried women and give them to gay couples? :sneaky:

Dammit, you caught me! And I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for you meddling Christian conservatives!!!