Arizona teachers -no longer require a college degree

[MrSquished]

When you live in a shithole state that doesn't treat public education and teachers well, You're going to have teacher shortages. Apparently the solution with the party that doesn't want to educate people, except with religion, the answer is reducing teacher qualification

Educators no longer need a college degree to begin teaching in Arizona public schools

Under legislation Gov. Doug Ducey signed earlier this week, a person only needs to be enrolled to get their college degree to begin teaching in public schools.

www.azfamily.com

 

[theeedude]

You really need to treat Republican run states as third world countries. Fly over, point, and don't forget to laugh.

 

[cytg111]

Well they still tip elections….

 

[Amol S.]

When you live in a shithole state that doesn't treat public education and teachers well, You're going to have teacher shortages. Apparently the solution with the party that doesn't want to educate people, except with religion, the answer is reducing teacher qualification

Educators no longer need a college degree to begin teaching in Arizona public schools

Under legislation Gov. Doug Ducey signed earlier this week, a person only needs to be enrolled to get their college degree to begin teaching in public schools.

www.azfamily.com

At least this law does not affect college level teachers.... many states like New York, do have laws that require college professors to have at least a graduate degree ( for part-time/adjunct professor) and a doctors degree to be hired by the college as a full-time professor.

 

[nickqt]

I am sad tell you this..... but I do not think one needs to have a college degree to be a teacher ( I refer to teachers as those in K-12 and not college), there are states that do offer certification courses that are sometimes considered as equivalent. On a side note however, many states like New York, do have laws that require college proffesors to have at least a graduate degree ( for part-time/adjunct proffessor) and a doctors degree to be hired by the college as a full-time professor.

You get what you pay for.

 

[Lezunto]

Which is absolutely no guarantee these degree-less teachers will actually be able to teach.

Many incompetent teachers cannot teach. They do not know to reach students or inspire them. Bad teachers simply use their ego and droll personality to drone on and on.

So inspiring.

 

[MrSquished]

K-12 teachers should have a college degree. Period.

 

[sandorski]

Some politicians think they know what should be taught. Why even have Teachers when you can just Legislate lessons?

 

[Lanyap]

This is all part of the conservative plan. Use low educated teachers to create low educated students to be conservatives who will vote for trump.

 

[gothuevos]

This is all part of the conservative plan. Use low educated teachers to create low educated students to be conservatives who will vote for trump.

Nah.

They simply want to collapse the public school system entirely.

 

[HomerJS]

Nah.

They simply want to collapse the public school system entirely.

Yes and yes

 

[sportage]

if you lived in arizona would you really want Marjorie Taylor Greene to teach your kid?
Well, this is where we are heading, or at least arizona parents are heading. Just imagine how fucked up your kids would be with MTG as their teacher. No intelligence required.

 

[Zorba]

This is all part of the conservative plan. Use low educated teachers to create low educated students to be conservatives who will vote for trump.

And will work the factories and fields for minimum wage.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Nah.

They simply want to collapse the public school system entirely.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Homerboy]

You really need to treat Republican run states as third world countries. Fly over, point, and don't forget to laugh.

living in a purple state about to go full red in the fall, I can't blame you. Just please drop supplies while you fly over and send thoughts and prayers to the sane people stuck here.

 

[fskimospy]

Depends. I would be on board with eliminating the four year degree requirement if you replaced it with two years of full time student teaching but I suspect the move here is to replace it with nothing.

 

[Pens1566]

Kansas(?) did something similar during the height of the pandemic. Made it so anyone 18+ that could pass their background check was eligible. Not sure if it was temporary or not though.

Either way, can't be a good idea.

 

[fskimospy]

Overall I support the move to lower requirements for civil service as most of them are just BS credentialing designed to reduce competition for jobs. (Say like civil service exams in New York)

Most teacher certification and continuing education requirements are useless and graduate teacher preparation programs don’t seem to do much of anything useful. I think you could throw them all in the trash and just replace them with some basic competency evaluation and as much classroom time as possible because that’s the one thing that we know really works - time spent teaching.

 

[Moonbeam]

It is probably unfortunate for children that we live in a society where people need to be employed to have a life. I would guess many teach for that reason. If I were looking for what I imagine might be a good thing for a perspective teacher to have it would be a love of learning.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yep, so much money going out to vouchers, they might not be able to adequately support their public school system. Keep up the good work AZ.

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/16/ar...-they-blew-a-huge-hole-in-its-budget_partner/

 

[fskimospy]

Yep, so much money going out to vouchers, they might not be able to adequately support there public school system. Keep up the good work AZ.

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/16/ar...-they-blew-a-huge-hole-in-its-budget_partner/

My favorite part is when they try to deflect blame from the program, saying the real issue was lower than expected revenues - after they also cut taxes.

 

[brycejones]

Yep, so much money going out to vouchers, they might not be able to adequately support their public school system. Keep up the good work AZ.

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/16/ar...-they-blew-a-huge-hole-in-its-budget_partner/

This was and is always the plan. Take so much money from public education that only private schools are left. Wealthy parents will send their kids to expensive private schools that provide great educations with a state subsidy they didn't need in the first place. Less well and especially the poor will be left to send their kids to "charter" schools that have low academic standards and either provide religious indoctrination or are profit centers for "education" companies owned by hedge funds. Further sucking dollars out of communities.

 

[MtnMan]

How soon will a red state pass legislation that a female's education ends with the 8th grade so they can start having babies?

Handmaids Tale is not a dystopian novel, it is a plan.

 

[HomerJS]

Same thing will happen when OBGYNs are driven out of red states. Just reduce the qualifications.

 

[Zorba]

Same thing will happen when OBGYNs are driven out of red states. Just reduce the qualifications.

Isn't that just called a midwife?