Arizona shooting victim issues death threats

[CPA]

I take it you and others who object to me qualifiying my statement prefer to follow those who are irresponsible. Figures.

The fact that you even inserted the word alludes to the fact that there are irresponsible reporters and journalists out there doing exactly what you claim was not happening.

 

[Siddhartha]

Way to deflect. A leftist nutjob issues death threats and this is all you have?

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Keep doing what you're doing liberals. Please.

Since Mr Obama got the Democratic Party nomination for POTUS there have been threads on this forum about assassinating him. There have been threads on this forum about armed revolt over the health care bill. I think it was you or maybe Anarchist 420 who avocated that the Secret Service drop their protection on Mr Obama.

Ms Angle made statements about 2nd Admendment remedies if the election did not go the way she wanted. I heard Laura Ingraham on her radio show advocate armed rebellion because the incandescence light bulb was going away. People called in agreeing with her. Tea Partiers have shown up armed at events featuring Mr Obama. People on this forum thought that was a good idea.

After the Tucson shootings, people on this forum wrote that they understood how someone would shoot a politician if the politician voted for a bill the shooter disagreed with.

Are you actually surprised that people wonder when, not if, a political opponent of Mr Obama and the Democratic Party is going to try to kill someone that disagrees with them on an issue like health care?

Your unrelenting and often bizzare attacks on "liberals" only points to the extreme that you and others have gone in their attitudes about people who disagree with you. This thread is example of what I am writing about.

 

[Jhhnn]

In the world of fringe whacks, the only equivalency is false equivalency. One traumatized guy making a public threat is not nearly the same as the raving and hate mongering coming from the Right for the last 30 years, and the pandering to it done by their leadership.

If they can't have it their way at the ballot box, they'll attempt to intimidate the opposition so that they can. And if that doesn't work, they seem to think that actual violence will.

Marginal personalities prone to violence will be drawn to whatever political rhetoric justifies it. In the 60's, that was the Weathermen & etc. Today, and for a period of decades, it's been the far Right poisoning political discourse in this country, pitching to the most craven elements of their base.

 

[spidey07]

Since Mr Obama got the Democratic Party nomination for POTUS there have been threads on this forum about assassinating him. There have been threads on this forum about armed revolt over the health care bill. I think it was you or maybe Anarchist 420 who avocated that the Secret Service drop their protection on Mr Obama.

Ms Angle made statements about 2nd Admendment remedies if the election did not go the way she wanted. I heard Laura Ingraham on her radio show advocate armed rebellion because the incandescence light bulb was going away. People called in agreeing with her. Tea Partiers have shown up armed at events featuring Mr Obama. People on this forum thought that was a good idea.

After the Tucson shootings, people on this forum wrote that they understood how someone would shoot a politician if the politician voted for a bill the shooter disagreed with.

Are you actually surprised that people wonder when, not if, a political opponent of Mr Obama and the Democratic Party is going to try to kill someone that disagrees with them on an issue like health care?

Your unrelenting and often bizzare attacks on "liberals" only points to the extreme that you and others have gone in their attitudes about people who disagree with you. This thread is example of what I am writing about.

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.

You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

 

[Steeplerot]

If I just took a bullet from some crazy I would be very pissed after a few days of stewing. Who the hell put him in the room with wingnuts and what did they say?

If it was anything like the rhetoric from teabagging douches in here -in person I probably would go after someones throat.

Dude just got shot, what do you expect? To ball up and be a victim? Of course, and be attacked. Again by idiots trying to cover their asses this time.

Taking a bullet would lower my bullshit tolerance level with cultists also. I would give the kid a break and let him cool off for a week or two instead of confronting him if he is upset and trying to find an explanation for the madness that just happened as people do after traumatic violent events.

 

[Steeplerot]

[/B]Are you not paying attention?

They do have medicines for people who hear voices of "we he people" or whatever. Here's a clue, there is no We, no one gives a shit about your rhetoric and insane drivel except to laugh uncomfortably at the sad slide into the dark place you put yourself in as far as mental hygiene. Get a clue, and meds.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.

You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

Deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole of denial.

Obama was elected by the will of the people, remember? And unlike your hero, GWB, he won a majority of the popular vote as well as the electoral college. It doesn't get any more legitimate than that.

 

[umbrella39]

Posted in another stupid spidey thread.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

EH?

I get where youre going with this Infohawk, but Harvey is being pretty consistent.

I mean whats next, using French bloggers as counter-arguments?

I think his point stands, no MAJOR national political pundit on the left (that I know of) has issued statements like these:

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”

"“Do you realize, ladies and gentlemen, what we are living through right now is exactly why the Revolutionary War was fought?”

"When do we ever run those who are bankrupting our country and literally stealing our children's future out of town? Grab a torch."

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.

You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

Great comparison.

As usual your reasoning is unassailable!

 

[SolidSnake42]

I've seen porn more classy than this thread.

 

[Robor]

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.

You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

Fucking nutcase. I hope you're on a watch list - likely several.

 

[Pens1566]

Posting in a nutjob spidey thread.

/waves to secret service

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

We won't know for sure until the video is released, and even then certain people are going to read into it exactly they want, but I'm not sure this guy wasn't just using a "Bang (camera flash), you're dead" example to illustrate the quickness in which such an event like last weekend's can happen and as a specific counterpoint to the "target's" argument that debate on gun control should be delayed. Not that I agree with the sentiment, or that this wasn't a very poor choice of words given the climate, but I'm not sure this was intended as any sort of direct threat. But I do fully expect this guy to apologize regardless, and separate himself from all those on the right who chronically say similar and far worse things.

Edit: I'm even more willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt now after finding this:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...iffords-shooting-victim-loughner-parents.html

Edit 2: Well either they cut it from the broadcast or it was one of those things you could barely hear mumbled while Humphries was speaking. I'm not sure what prompted Fuller.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.
You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

Tunisia? You are seriously equating President Obama to the corrupt "President-for-Life" of a third-world nation that has not had a legitimate election for at least the last two decades?

You really need to try to quiet those voices in your head; they're not your friends and despite their volume, they are not a majority.

 

[Harvey]

The fact that you even inserted the word alludes to the fact that there are irresponsible reporters and journalists out there doing exactly what you claim was not happening.

Consumate bullshit. My post doesn't allude, imply, suggest or state any such thing. Find some, and post them up for critical review... if you can, and we can judge the crediblity of those individuals and relative significance of what they say. You'll be hard pressed to find credible public voices spewing Spidey's wingnuttery that "it's the left who holds the violent crazies."

And in any case, their words would have no bearing on what I've said. All they would represent are the voices of the outlyers looking to stir up false issues where none exist. Palin's pathetic, self-serving self-pity party is a perfect example of that. :hmm:

 

[Craig234]

Consumate bullshit. My post doesn't allude, imply, suggest or state any such thing. Find some, and post them up for critical review... if you can, and we can judge the crediblity of those individuals and relative significance of what they say. You'll be hard pressed to find credible public voices spewing Spidey's wingnuttery that "it's the left who holds the violent crazies."

And in any case, their words would have no bearing on what I've said. All they would represent are the voices of the outlyers looking to stir up false issues where none exist. Palin's pathetic, self-serving self-pity party is a perfect example of that. :hmm:

The ironic thing is that the left is the side that has the legitimate claim to the rhetoric of revolution, in these times of the rich getting far more rich and powerful.

They're the ones who have the issues most similar to the founding fathers, standing up to today's corporatocracy the way the aristocracy in England was opposed.

The Tea Party is like the colonists who were victims of the aristocracy who fought violently and passionately against the tyranny by opposing the revolution, by championing the agenda of the aristocracy and calling the founding fathers the 'tyrants' of the land.

 

[DesiPower]

What a left loon, wonder what all the koolies have to say now... This guy is nothing less than the left wing version of Jared Loughner. Here are some of the comments we made.

"There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with [Minnesota US Rep.] Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin's ears toward the end, because they're small, female ears, and then Limbaugh, Hannity and the biggest ears of all, Cheney's, in the center," Fuller said.

On Saturday, Fuller was carted away for a psychiatric exam after disrupting the town-hall meeting by taking a photo of Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries and shouting, "You're dead!"

linky

of course the lame stream media conveniently ignored the whole thing...

 

[werepossum]

What a left loon, wonder what all the koolies have to say now... This guy is nothing less than the left wing version of Jared Loughner. Here are some of the comments we made.

linky

of course the lame stream media conveniently ignored the whole thing...

Geez, that certainly sounds crazy. I'm wondering if this guy even was shot. He claimed to have been hit twice, grazed on the knee and grazed on the back. Seems pretty unlikely. Makes me wonder if he's not just a more liberal crazy than the last one.

If he WAS actually struck by one or more bullets, I'd say cut him some slack. That kind of thing could unhinge a person, and he didn't actually hurt anyone. Assuming he WAS actually a victim and manages to re-hinge, I'd say some court-mandated counseling and anger management therapy would be in order rather than a trail for making rather general if insane threats.

 

[hal2kilo]

If I just took a bullet from some crazy I would be very pissed after a few days of stewing. Who the hell put him in the room with wingnuts and what did they say?

If it was anything like the rhetoric from teabagging douches in here -in person I probably would go after someones throat.

Dude just got shot, what do you expect? To ball up and be a victim? Of course, and be attacked. Again by idiots trying to cover their asses this time.

Taking a bullet would lower my bullshit tolerance level with cultists also. I would give the kid a break and let him cool off for a week or two instead of confronting him if he is upset and trying to find an explanation for the madness that just happened as people do after traumatic violent events.

Although he was not right in what he did. I think this person acted out after being traumatized. He'll look back on this and go "what the fuck was I thinking". I hope the court takes this into account and gives him at the most community service.

 

[sandorski]

TYT's take on it

 

[CallMeJoe]

Geez, that certainly sounds crazy. I'm wondering if this guy even was shot. He claimed to have been hit twice, grazed on the knee and grazed on the back. Seems pretty unlikely. Makes me wonder if he's not just a more liberal crazy than the last one...

He's a lefty, must be a liar. It's too bad there's no easy way for you to confirm your suspicion he wasn't shot - maybe something called a "search engine"...

 

[CitizenKain]

Here's a clue for you. Stop going against the will of the people. We The People reject what Obama is doing.

You been paying attention to what is going on in Tunisia? This is America, bitch. Are you not paying attention?

Or what, they'll kill you like this guy did?
There is no such thing as a patriot tea bagger.

 

[werepossum]

He's a lefty, must be a liar. It's too bad there's no easy way for you to confirm your suspicion he wasn't shot - maybe something called a "search engine"...

??? How about he has just been arrested for death threats and intimidation, was discharged from the military for a "non-physical disability" (his words), and is currently undergoing a psych evaluation so he might be lying - or simply wrong? I know it's been widely reported that he was shot, that he left the event and drove himself home THEN realized that he had been injured, that he drove himself to the hospital and spent two days in hospital for treatment, and that he claims to have been grazed by two gunshots. I know that the wound on his leg was sutured (not a common remedy for a gunshot graze, which tends to be more a macerated burn, but possible.) I know that under HIPAA the hospital cannot comment on his injuries specifically, to confirm or refute without him signing a release. I know that the sheriff in particular has been from the first hour, and remains, committed to using this shooting to damage conservatives and Republicans, so he's unlikely to contradict such a story. And I know that claims to have been grazed by bullets, at a scene where bullets were certainly flying, are probably going to be taken a face value unless the injuries are obviously not capable of being gunshot wounds.

Put all that together and it's certainly possible that he lied about his injuries, or that he was injured diving for cover and honestly thinks he was shot twice. As I said, if indeed he was shot then I'm all for giving him a lot of latitude, some psychological help rather than prosecution. And it's certainly possible that he was shot twice, didn't realize it, drove himself home, then decided he'd been shot twice and drove himself to the hospital for treatment. But given his bizarre behavior and the circumstances of his wounds, I don't think it's out of line to wonder if he truly was shot.

EDIT: These are some things I found Binging "eric fuller's injuries". I've never before heard of Greg Howard or the Dakota Voice, so salt to taste. I have not investigated their other posts or their links, so fair warning: They may be nuts.
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/01/j-eric-fullers-profile-a-few-answers-and-many-questions/
http://gregwhoward.com/wordpress/2011/01/who-exactly-is-james-eric-fuller/

 

[sandorski]

??? How about he has just been arrested for death threats and intimidation, was discharged from the military for a "non-physical disability" (his words), and is currently undergoing a psych evaluation so he might be lying - or simply wrong? I know it's been widely reported that he was shot, that he left the event and drove himself home THEN realized that he had been injured, that he drove himself to the hospital and spent two days in hospital for treatment, and that he claims to have been grazed by two gunshots. I know that the wound on his leg was sutured (not a common remedy for a gunshot graze, which tends to be more a macerated burn, but possible.) I know that under HIPAA the hospital cannot comment on his injuries specifically, to confirm or refute without him signing a release. I know that the sheriff in particular has been from the first hour, and remains, committed to using this shooting to damage conservatives and Republicans, so he's unlikely to contradict such a story. And I know that claims to have been grazed by bullets, at a scene where bullets were certainly flying, are probably going to be taken a face value unless the injuries are obviously not capable of being gunshot wounds.

Put all that together and it's certainly possible that he lied about his injuries, or that he was injured diving for cover and honestly thinks he was shot twice. As I said, if indeed he was shot then I'm all for giving him a lot of latitude, some psychological help rather than prosecution. And it's certainly possible that he was shot twice, didn't realize it, drove himself home, then decided he'd been shot twice and drove himself to the hospital for treatment. But given his bizarre behavior and the circumstances of his wounds, I don't think it's out of line to wonder if he truly was shot.

EDIT: These are some things I found Binging "eric fuller's injuries". I've never before heard of Greg Howard or the Dakota Voice, so salt to taste. I have not investigated their other posts or their links, so fair warning: They may be nuts.
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/01/j-eric-fullers-profile-a-few-answers-and-many-questions/
http://gregwhoward.com/wordpress/2011/01/who-exactly-is-james-eric-fuller/

lolwut?

Well I suppose we'll just have to demand his Medical Records then. We'll call ourselves: Recorders