Arizona Republicans vote to destroy email and text messages after 90 days

[MtnMan]

And any requests by the media, etc., for copies under the Freedom of Information act will automatically take 120 days to process.

 

[Pohemi]

The same kind of shit happened when that one state elected a Democratic governor and the Republican legislation pre-emptively stripped the powers of the Governor's Office prior to the new Governor being sworn in.

Yep, that was here, and with the current governor (WI). Lame-duck crippling of the governor's (and AG's iirc) powers, and their reasoning that one asshat gave was that, "well we trusted Scott Walker" (the guy who killed unions here and crippled the economy) "but we don't trust the new guy coming in" (Tony Evers, a Democrat). It was bullshit of course.

 

[darkswordsman17]

A vote for the GOP in this day and age is basically a vote for blatant corruption.

Blame pieces of shit like blackangst.

 

[fskimospy]

Why is this a thing? Why arent borders for voting areas not made by some dry and dusty civil serves admin dept?

In some states they are, but this is mostly in Democratic controlled ones. I think this boils down to the fact that Democrats are more concerned with good governance than Republicans are.

That being said in Arizona the Republicans genuinely won the majority of votes for the assembly and so this is not a situation like Wisconsin where democracy essentially has been abolished for state legislative races.

 

[ch33zw1z]

wonder where the usual JAQoff's are.

 

[brycejones]

But why are politicians in charge of the mechanisms of government?

“Democracy” it’s a tradition (and a stupid one) that goes back to the earliest days of this country.

 

[HomerJS]

Irony

 

[hal2kilo]

Isn't there a law about service providers having to retain data for a certain time? I'm pretty certain that I heard a palaver about that awhile ago.
If Dopey Mcfucknuts thinks that just deleting the messages off his phone makes them go away he's probably in for a hard lesson at some point!

Sounds like they need to use Snapchat like the drug dealers. Auto delete feature.

 

[blackangst1]

This is so dumb....

 

[UNCjigga]

Have no fear folks, I’m sure Project Veritas will stay right on top of things to keep these lawmakers honest and transparent.

 

[MrSquished]

The first things any criminal should do is try to hide the evidence.

These Republicans are shite scummy criminals.

 

[Homerboy]

This is so dumb....

Expand on that.

 

[soulcougher73]

Their is only ONE reason someone would want this as law. It's an easy answer.

 

[Jaskalas]

This is so dumb....

Dumb, or by design?
They are not doing this by accident.
So why would they want to?

 

[eelw]

Their is only ONE reason someone would want this as law. Its an easy answer.

To save server space obviously. Why spend money to upgrade capacity when you can reuse!!!

 

[blackangst1]

Expand on that.

Its dumb the Republicans are pushing this. What more needs to be said?

 

[MrSquished]

Its dumb the Republicans are pushing this. What more needs to be said?

It's criminal not dumb. Dumb is like passing a law to make a national strawberry day, not clearly setting the stage to cover up crime

 

[Paratus]

Their is only ONE reason someone would want this as law. It's an easy answer.

Yes and that reason is to protect American families these patriot politicians must protect their communications from the woke liberal conspiracy. (Some conservative)

 

[trenchfoot]

Another nail in the coffin of democracy. The trend is clear as day as far as what the Repub leadership is up to. And it seems the folks who voted for these cretins are A-OK with it. Well, they're going to be all in with Trump should the weasel manage to stab DeSantis in the back with enough lies to stifle him with. So that says a lot about what the party faithful is willing to put up with, of which it seems is anything and everything possible, Constitution and the Rule of Law be damned.

The party faithful was just fine with Putin interfering with our elections to help Trump and they're still fine with Trump's obvious fealty to that Russian dictator along with the long trail of crimes their titular head of party left behind him. As far as they're concerned nothing matters more than seizing power and keeping it out of the hands of anyone else.

So where does that leave the rest of us, of whom are the majority of the nation as witnessed by the plurality of those millions voters who gave Biden a clear margin of victory of both the electoral and the popular vote. The choice is to have a fascist state led by big business and the aristocrat class or the preservation of the democracy we and every political leader who swore an oath to protect should be standing for.

 

[Pens1566]

Arizona, Texas, and Florida are in a race to see which one can MAGA harder ahead of the next election cycle.

 

[HomerJS]

Arizona, Texas, and Florida are in a race to see which one can MAGA harder ahead of the next election cycle.

Governments are moving towards banning TikTok which is legit but I bet these same states still allow encrypted messaging apps on govt devices

Jarad Kushner was using WhatsApp to communicate with the Russians

 

[brycejones]

Arizona, Texas, and Florida are in a race to see which one can MAGA harder ahead of the next election cycle.

I thought conservatives were afraid of ATF?

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's criminal not dumb. Dumb is like passing a law to make a national strawberry day, not clearly setting the stage to cover up crime

blackangst knows this, just can’t bring himself to admit it on the forum. His totally unbiased opinion is totally unbiased for sure

 

[blackangst1]

It's criminal not dumb. Dumb is like passing a law to make a national strawberry day, not clearly setting the stage to cover up crime

Its not criminal. The legislature has simply exempted themselves from records retention. This isnt exclusive to AZ either. And Im with Democrats on this one...its bad legislation.

Arizona GOP lawmakers vote to shield themselves from public records laws (nbcnews.com)

Legislatures having the ability to shield themselves from public records laws is not unheard of. State legislators in Wisconsin have enjoyed the benefits of such a loophole since 1982, when the state’s open records laws created an exemption specifically for them.

Minnesota, Iowa, Oklahoma and Massachusetts also have laws in place effectively exempting state legislators from public records requests, according to record request nonprofit MuckRock, though it remains exceedingly common for legislators in states where such exemptions don't explicitly exist to avoid complying with public records laws.

 

[MrSquished]

Its not criminal. The legislature has simply exempted themselves from records retention. This isnt exclusive to AZ either. And Im with Democrats on this one...its bad legislation.

Arizona GOP lawmakers vote to shield themselves from public records laws (nbcnews.com)

So you are assuming that I think it is ok for Wisconsin GQP traitors to do the same? You really think it's just 'dumb' for our government officials to have zero transparency? That shit is downright dangerous. Who do you think wants zero transparency? There is only one answer - criminals.

Also, btw, your other links don't say what you think they say, the link for Massachusetts's says how it has been difficult to get public records requests (though not impossible like Wisconsin and now Arizona, nor does it mention being able to destroy all records, which does not seem to be the practice in Mass), the article you link actually says "

• Recently overhauled, bringing some much needed improvements — and setbacks
• Most complex deadline schedule of any state
• Agencies beginning to invest in improving practices

Massachusetts has a reputation for being one of the most difficult states to get records out of, but recent reforms have at least created the potential for the law — which has particularly broad carveouts for police records — to finally have some teeth."



You should probably actually read your sources before you post them btw.