Argggh. CPU died (I think)

[Homerboy]

i think perhaps the ram went bad

why would you think that? Please dont let it be the RAM.....

 

[Arkaign]

why would you think that? Please dont let it be the RAM.....

In order of probability, this is the order of common failures, from most common to least common :

Power Supply
Mobo
HDD
Video Card (if discrete)
Ram
CPU

This is a pure average in my experience. Obviously higher quality brands of PSUs and Mobos are generally less likely to die early deaths, but I think it's far more likely than the CPU dying. Outside of overvolting or physical abuse, CPUs almost never die in my experience, I've even pulled CPUs from systems that had been destroyed by storm/electrical damage where the PSU and Mobo were literally cooked (ICs blackened, that level of death) and they usually worked.

Back in the Socket A days, it was a lot easier to kill those guys, the surface area for cooling was terribly small, the packaging was very flimsy, and sometimes just properly installing a heatsink and tightening the clamps to the 'closed' position would be enough to kill the damned thing. But from S754+, yeah they're equally as robust and hard to kill as Intel cpus (again, so long as they've not been overvolted to hell, dropped on the floor, etc).

Almost anything is possible, but I'm guessing your mobo is kaput. Somewhat less likely is the memory. Far far far less likely than either is the CPU itself, as you say you were on stock volts and using a big aftermarket cooler.

 

[Homerboy]

Thread updated with poll!

FYI I did mess around with it more after work.
Reset CMOS a dozen times. (including pulling battery) - Same results, 5 fast beeps
Pulled RAM - slow, long beeps
reseated CPU - Same results, 5 fast beeps
repalced GPU - Same results, 5 fast beeps
swore at the POS repeatedly - Same results, 5 fast beeps

 

[dpodblood]

Given the error codes you know it's either the mobo or the CPU. The easiest thing to do would be to get a new motherboard. If it all works with the new mobo then problem solved. If you still have the same problem then it's the CPU. In that case return the mobo (or keep it as a backup), and replace the CPU.

 

[Homerboy]

Given the error codes you know it's either the mobo or the CPU. The easiest thing to do would be to get a new motherboard. If it all works with the new mobo then problem solved. If you still have the same problem then it's the CPU. In that case return the mobo (or keep it as a backup), and replace the CPU.

I'm in agreement.
Sadly, after checking tracking, it looks like the CPU is going to get here first. Temptation will be to open and test... I will (attempt to) resist.

 

[dpodblood]

Do you have a local shop where you could pick up a mobo? Eliminates shipping/return hassles.

 

[Homerboy]

Do you have a local shop where you could pick up a mobo? Eliminates shipping/return hassles.

Not matching MB.
MB is already en route anyways.
This will keep me from spending days at end playing Civ5

 

[slayernine]

I'm voting motherboard failure, processors usually don't die randomly. Processor problems usually present in a different manner and are extremely rare in comparison to motherboard or ram failures.

 

[BLaber]

Dude you are getting beeps , if CPU was dead you shouldn't get any beeps at all.

If CPU was dead you could mostly power on the system but that's about it , same happened to me with my AMD kII-650 if i remember correctly.

 

[Homerboy]

And the winner is!??!?!?!??......

(I'm posting from it right now...)

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

And the winner is!??!?!?!??......

(I'm posting from it right now...)

Don't keep us in suspense...

 

[VirtualLarry]

so, which was it, mobo or cpu?

 

[Acanthus]

In order of probability, this is the order of common failures, from most common to least common :

Power Supply
Mobo
HDD
Video Card (if discrete)
Ram
CPU

This is a pure average in my experience. Obviously higher quality brands of PSUs and Mobos are generally less likely to die early deaths, but I think it's far more likely than the CPU dying. Outside of overvolting or physical abuse, CPUs almost never die in my experience, I've even pulled CPUs from systems that had been destroyed by storm/electrical damage where the PSU and Mobo were literally cooked (ICs blackened, that level of death) and they usually worked.

Back in the Socket A days, it was a lot easier to kill those guys, the surface area for cooling was terribly small, the packaging was very flimsy, and sometimes just properly installing a heatsink and tightening the clamps to the 'closed' position would be enough to kill the damned thing. But from S754+, yeah they're equally as robust and hard to kill as Intel cpus (again, so long as they've not been overvolted to hell, dropped on the floor, etc).

Almost anything is possible, but I'm guessing your mobo is kaput. Somewhat less likely is the memory. Far far far less likely than either is the CPU itself, as you say you were on stock volts and using a big aftermarket cooler.

10 years of experience gives me the same list for probability of failure.

 

[RussianSensation]

Pulled RAM - slow, long beeps

Chances are that if RAM failed, only 1 of the sticks would do so. So try running the system with 1 stick only. In addition, try that 1 stick across various DIMMs to isolate a DIMM as a possible issue. Try with the other stick too. If this doesn't work, then it's certainly not the RAM. It's also not the power supply imo since you'd have no beeps at all. The mobo wouldn't even power up.

If not the ram, then my gut feeling tells me that the mobo failed.

 

[Homerboy]

Motherboard.

Anyone looking for an un-opened PII x2 555?!?

Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Markfw]

Motherboard.

Anyone looking for an un-opened PII x2 555?!?

Thanks for the help guys!

And I (we actually) told you this from the start.

Want to hear "I told you so" ?

 

[Homerboy]

And I (we actually) told you this from the start.

Want to hear "I told you so" ?

never really argued it.

 

[Markfw]

never really argued it.

OK, sorry for your wasted cpu buy....

I wasn't trying to be an ass.

BUT. The moral of the story is, post first, analyze, then buy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does that motherboard have an 8-pin power plug or a 4-pin? Is it specced out for 140W CPUs, or 125W or 95W CPUs?

Edit: Just wondering what the likelyhood is of burning out another motherboard. I really don't think that board is good to handle an overclocked quad.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Motherboard.

Anyone looking for an un-opened PII x2 555?!?

Thanks for the help guys!

Hmm, maybe I should get it as a prize for being the first to say "motherboard"... :hmm:



Seriously, though, perhaps if you contact NE, they'll take it back and the only cost to you would be shipping.