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Argentina has lost a submarine - missing for 3 days now

You've lost *another* submarine?
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So sad, very much doubt this will end well. Just like with Russia, when a country goes broke, woe to the submariners. Maintenance and training are expensive.

Hope there are survivors, and that Argentina doesn't pull a Putin if there are. Accepting US help is a good sign.
 
Ugh, man I hope they can get to them in time. Being stuck on the bottom of the ocean in the dark in a submarine is basically every fear I have put together.
 
Firstly they have to locate it. Yes, we always have DSRVs on call. The depth and angle of the hull come into play along with if they can even mate up to the hatch surface. It isn't looking good at all as the water is very deep in that area and they have been down for quite some time. They probably do have oxygen, but the buildup of Carbon Dioxide is a killer.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Not good news at all. My prayers go out to my Submariner brothers. 🙁
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And sister. This sub had the first Argentine female submariner on board too.

Doesn't sound like there will be a good ending to this story. Hopefully they get lucky.
 
Navy sent a bunch of underwater drones to help search, apparently they have it down to a 35 square mile grid. I don't think it will help, they're almost out of air. Weather sucks and it's in deep water. Even if they find it in time, is it upright? Can crew get to hatch?

If they are somehow below the rated depth of the sub and it's damaged, crew alive by luck, just attaching to it could finish the job. 🙁

Hoping for a repeat of the Chilean mining incident.
 
Chaotic42 said:
Absolutely. I wonder if we have technology on standby to handle situations like this, something like the DSRV from The Hunt for Red October.
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We do and so do others, problem here is finding the sub to begin with. I think it's heartening to see the Brits send help.
 
Submariner is on the short list of jobs I absolutely would not do. I can't imagine the odds are very good at this point.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Firstly they have to locate it. Yes, we always have DSRVs on call. The depth and angle of the hull come into play along with if they can even mate up to the hatch surface. It isn't looking good at all as the water is very deep in that area and they have been down for quite some time. They probably do have oxygen, but the buildup of Carbon Dioxide is a killer.
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The sub is rated to 300M, so if it's much deeper than that there's little hope for survival.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-1700-class_submarine
 
local said:
Submariner is on the short list of jobs I absolutely would not do. I can't imagine the odds are very good at this point.
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It is safer than flying in an airplane or driving a car. You haven't lived until you go to test depth on a deep diving boat. 🙂

The USA lost four submarines since WW2.

Two diesel boats Cochino and Stickleback one in 1949 due to a fire and battery explosion and one in 1958 due to a collision.

Two nuclear boats the Thresher 1963 and the Scorpion 1968 both causes were unknown.

There has been great improvements since these accidents. Such as the Sub Safe program that controls the quality of all hull penetrations etc.
 
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I watched too many sub movies and played too many sub games as a kid. Being underground freaks me out, much less being under water 😛. I considered going in as a nuke tech, but I was denied joining the service. Hell, I get freaked out when I go fishing off shore and can't see the land.

Remote sensing underwater can be really difficult, I wish everyone luck in the search.
 
pcgeek11 said:
It is safer than flying in an airplane or driving a car. You haven't lived until you go to test depth on a deep diving boat. 🙂

The USA lost four submarines since WW2.

Two diesel boats Cochino and Stickleback one in 1949 due to a fire and battery explosion and one in 1958 due to a collision.

Two nuclear boats the Thresher 1963 and the Scorpion 1968 both causes were unknown.

There has been great improvements since these accidents. Such as the Sub Safe program that controls the quality of all hull penetrations etc.
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I understand that on an intellectual level but the thought of being underwater in a place at which there is almost no possibility of escape pushes the nope button in my head way too hard.
 
local said:
I understand that on an intellectual level but the thought of being underwater in a place at which there is almost no possibility of escape pushes the nope button in my head way too hard.
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It is however strange that I spend 20 years riding in submarines and it never bothered me at all. I went into a cave once and the thought of all that dirt collapsing on me gave me the creeps.
 
Reading the articles again and I noticed this:

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The vessel's captain reported a "failure" in the vessel's battery system shortly before it disappeared last week, Navy spokesman Gabriel Galeazzi said.
After he reported the sub had experienced a "short circuit," he was told to "change course and return to Mar del Plata," said Galeazzi.
This type of problem is considered routine and the vessel's crew was reported safe, he added. "

From here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/americas/argentina-missing-submarine/index.html

A battery short circuit is not normal or routine. It is a very dangerous condition as a submarine battery can put out in excess of 15,000 amps. Or if they had some flooding and salt water entered the battery they then have short circuits combined with chlorine gas which is also deadly.
 
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