Aren't Intel, SiS or VIA "missing the boat"?

[vailr]

By not designing a Conroe/Core2 chipset that is overclock-friendly, yet still allows re-using older DDR memory and AGP video cards? A lot of people would like to move to Core2, if only: it didn't ALSO require: new DDR2 memory and a new PCIe video card.
Yes, there's the ASRock Dual-VSTA board (VIA chipset), and many Intel 865 chipset boards.
Non of which allow for maximizing the overclock potential of the E6300 CPU.
Sure, Intel always wants to "drive forward the technology". But many potential buyers choose to "stay put" with what they have, rather than pay the expense of upgrading all at once (CPU, motherboard, memory & video card). And if any SiS or VIA chipset boards are truly "overclock-friendly" for Core2 CPU's when used with DDR & AGP, I haven't heard about them...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: vailr
By not designing a Conroe/Core2 chipset that is overclock-friendly, yet still allows re-using older DDR memory and AGP video cards? A lot of people would like to move to Core2, if only: it didn't ALSO require: new DDR2 memory and a new PCIe video card.
Yes, there's the ASRock Dual-VSTA board (VIA chipset), and many Intel 865 chipset boards.
Non of which allow for maximizing the overclock potential of the E6300 CPU.
Sure, Intel always wants to "drive forward the technology". But many potential buyers choose to "stay put" with what they have, rather than pay the expense of upgrading all at once (CPU, motherboard, memory & video card). And if any SiS or VIA chipset boards are truly "overclock-friendly" for Core2 CPU's when used with DDR & AGP, I haven't heard about them...

Can you find me an AM2 system that uses AGP and DDR and overclocks just like a PCIE and DDR2 board? I sure can't point you to a link.

Fact is the boards designed with AGP and DDR aren't ment for the overclockers anyway. If you're going to overclock it means that one of the fastest CPUs available is too slow for your usage and if that was the case then DDR and AGP are too slow for that person as well.

 

[hardwareking]

dude with AM2 theres a difference.The procs can address only ddr2 memory because of the integrated memory controller.
And there is an ASrock Motherboard which has pci-e and agp and drr and ddr2.Of course u can only use 1 of each.Anand had reviewed it sometime back.
With intel,the memory controller is in the chipset so if the chipset can address ddr and supports AGP core 2 duo will run.But don't expect a lot of performance.

 

[sandorski]

That "boat" is just a rubber dinghy on a cruise ship. Someone will eventually fill the Overclockers niche, but it will likely be a Motherboard maker and not a chipset maker(though ATI or Nvidia will likely ensure their chipsets are worthy contenders).

 

[SunnyD]

Why would they be missing the boat? It's called marketing and sales. They do the exact same thing that auto manufacturers dating all the way back to Henry Ford do - it's called "Planned Obsolescence". It's a way to drive better technology out and make more money in the process.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: sandorski
That "boat" is just a rubber dinghy on a cruise ship. Someone will eventually fill the Overclockers niche, but it will likely be a Motherboard maker and not a chipset maker(though ATI or Nvidia will likely ensure their chipsets are worthy contenders).

We call them Zodiacs. But modern lifeboats have food supplies, electric, running water, GPS/SSB, etc.

AGP is dead. Not going to happen.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Most biz and consumers buy OEM systems, so support for legacy hardware is largely a non-issue. "A lot of people would like to move to Core2, if only: it didn't ALSO require: new DDR2 memory and a new PCIe video card" is actually a very small niche market to be catered to.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: vailr
By not designing a Conroe/Core2 chipset that is overclock-friendly, yet still allows re-using older DDR memory and AGP video cards? A lot of people would like to move to Core2, if only: it didn't ALSO require: new DDR2 memory and a new PCIe video card.
Yes, there's the ASRock Dual-VSTA board (VIA chipset), and many Intel 865 chipset boards.
Non of which allow for maximizing the overclock potential of the E6300 CPU.
Sure, Intel always wants to "drive forward the technology". But many potential buyers choose to "stay put" with what they have, rather than pay the expense of upgrading all at once (CPU, motherboard, memory & video card). And if any SiS or VIA chipset boards are truly "overclock-friendly" for Core2 CPU's when used with DDR & AGP, I haven't heard about them...

Can't have it all

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: sandorski
That "boat" is just a rubber dinghy on a cruise ship. Someone will eventually fill the Overclockers niche, but it will likely be a Motherboard maker and not a chipset maker(though ATI or Nvidia will likely ensure their chipsets are worthy contenders).

We call them Zodiacs. But modern lifeboats have food supplies, electric, running water, GPS/SSB, etc.

AGP is dead. Not going to happen.

Great News for the AGP Gamer: X1950 PRO AGP! @ NGOHQ
http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=121309

In case you missed our interview with PowerColor?s Raymen Wu yesterday, we have some great news for all the AGP fans out there. (Actually, we do have good news from time to time but you people always seem to be surprised! Maybe it?s time for you to put us in your Favorites. Hint, hint.)

Anyway, Raymen confirmed to us in the interview that PowerColor will be introducing an AGP version of X1950PRO very soon. Yes! Finally there?s a high-end solution from ATI to the AGP market.

The current AGP king is the Nvidia 7800GS -- but it?s priced from $250-300. The X1950PRO should be much faster than the 7800GS, but the price for the AGP version is still unknown. Anyway, we believe that the X1950PRO AGP will gain a lot of success due to the current generally poor offerings.

On another note, we also heard that Nvidia is very unhappy with the latest X1950PRO launch and are already working on a response 7950GS anyone?. Now we are even more confident that Nvidia will make an AGP version of it as well.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: vailr

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: sandorski
That "boat" is just a rubber dinghy on a cruise ship. Someone will eventually fill the Overclockers niche, but it will likely be a Motherboard maker and not a chipset maker(though ATI or Nvidia will likely ensure their chipsets are worthy contenders).

We call them Zodiacs. But modern lifeboats have food supplies, electric, running water, GPS/SSB, etc.

AGP is dead. Not going to happen.

Great News for the AGP Gamer: X1950 PRO AGP! @ NGOHQ
http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?t=121309

In case you missed our interview with PowerColor?s Raymen Wu yesterday, we have some great news for all the AGP fans out there. (Actually, we do have good news from time to time but you people always seem to be surprised! Maybe it?s time for you to put us in your Favorites. Hint, hint.)

Anyway, Raymen confirmed to us in the interview that PowerColor will be introducing an AGP version of X1950PRO very soon. Yes! Finally there?s a high-end solution from ATI to the AGP market.

The current AGP king is the Nvidia 7800GS -- but it?s priced from $250-300. The X1950PRO should be much faster than the 7800GS, but the price for the AGP version is still unknown. Anyway, we believe that the X1950PRO AGP will gain a lot of success due to the current generally poor offerings.

On another note, we also heard that Nvidia is very unhappy with the latest X1950PRO launch and are already working on a response 7950GS anyone?. Now we are even more confident that Nvidia will make an AGP version of it as well.

The price will be bloated way out of proportion and/or the specs will be alot lower than its PCI-E counterpart.

 

[vailr]

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