Loosen your grip there, cowboy! 
All things considered equal, at $199 I'd take the faster (we can only hope prettier) Ti4200 as well. (8500, Ti4200 = $199.)
[in Spock voice:] Things... are not equal.
For starters, the Radeon 8500 is coming down in price - especially with the advent of a brand new nVidia offering. (Is it a good or bad thing that nVidia bombards the public with more products than it knows what to do with?...) And besides, the Ti4200 at the same price point won't be available for some time - widening the gap between the 8500 and Ti4200.
Second, we have little idea about the *quality* difference between the 8500 and Geforce4 yet, as nothing's been compared under the glass. So to speak. But then some people couldn't care less - provided it looks "decent", it looks "awesome". Give people an honest comparison for a change - all we ever hear about is speed. It's time to aim higher than that, especially since we have far more speed than is necessary.
Third, ATI will have new products too, and they'll be good also. Will it be 0.27% faster than a Geforce57-and-a-half? Who cares! It'll be fast! How about striving for quality in drivers, colour, picture...
No company has provided the perfect product. Period. No amount of zealotry will make up for the fact that sometimes a manufacturer "cheaps out" on a 3-cent part that would improve 2D desktop quality, or neglect customer support, or provide poor drivers, or orphan a year-old-product. nVidia has failed the public too... if ATI brings a product to the table that meets your needs BETTER than an nVidia product, what are you going to do? Buy nVidia anyways because it's [teenager voice:] coool...
I wish people could just think straight and not believe all the pomp-and-circumstance we're fed on a daily basis.
I don't want more hash for breakfast, even if it is a half-decent hash. Time for some quality, folks. Something that'll raise the bar for everyone...
But then if things keep going the way they are, people will just buy Xboxes for good-looking games.
All things considered equal, at $199 I'd take the faster (we can only hope prettier) Ti4200 as well. (8500, Ti4200 = $199.)[in Spock voice:] Things... are not equal.
For starters, the Radeon 8500 is coming down in price - especially with the advent of a brand new nVidia offering. (Is it a good or bad thing that nVidia bombards the public with more products than it knows what to do with?...) And besides, the Ti4200 at the same price point won't be available for some time - widening the gap between the 8500 and Ti4200.
Second, we have little idea about the *quality* difference between the 8500 and Geforce4 yet, as nothing's been compared under the glass. So to speak. But then some people couldn't care less - provided it looks "decent", it looks "awesome". Give people an honest comparison for a change - all we ever hear about is speed. It's time to aim higher than that, especially since we have far more speed than is necessary.
Third, ATI will have new products too, and they'll be good also. Will it be 0.27% faster than a Geforce57-and-a-half? Who cares! It'll be fast! How about striving for quality in drivers, colour, picture...
No company has provided the perfect product. Period. No amount of zealotry will make up for the fact that sometimes a manufacturer "cheaps out" on a 3-cent part that would improve 2D desktop quality, or neglect customer support, or provide poor drivers, or orphan a year-old-product. nVidia has failed the public too... if ATI brings a product to the table that meets your needs BETTER than an nVidia product, what are you going to do? Buy nVidia anyways because it's [teenager voice:] coool...
I wish people could just think straight and not believe all the pomp-and-circumstance we're fed on a daily basis.
I don't want more hash for breakfast, even if it is a half-decent hash. Time for some quality, folks. Something that'll raise the bar for everyone...
But then if things keep going the way they are, people will just buy Xboxes for good-looking games.
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