Are you religious?

[slayer202]

If you've got a billion people influenced by said bunny; people with empirical evidence of the social influence of said bunny... well it's in would be dishonest to deny the bunny's influence on society or dismiss who've been personally moved by said bunny.


Pasta, bunny, hat... imagine what you will; but what you imagine changes your will.

D:

 

[SlitheryDee]

If you've got a billion people influenced by said bunny; people with empirical evidence of the social influence of said bunny... well it's in would be dishonest to deny the bunny's influence on society or dismiss who've been personally moved by said bunny.


Pasta, bunny, hat... imagine what you will; but what you imagine changes your will.

Give me about 2000 years so the legend of the invisiable purple bunny can gain some traction and so the exact details of which can become misted over with time. After all, that and a few hallucinating crazies later on is all it took for Christianity to rise to the top.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

We all just live in our own heads anyway; why be so dismissive of other people's reality?

 

[Ns1]

We all just live in our own heads anyway; why be so dismissive of other people's reality?

because the shit in their heads [religious beliefs] affects other people's lives.

 

[artvscommerce]

because the shit in their heads [religious beliefs] affects other people's lives.

and that's putting it lightly.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

because the shit in their heads [religious beliefs] affects other people's lives.

Oh.. well telling them not to believe in something isn't going to fix people being bigots and assholes; they'll just continue to be bigots and assholes AND not have any good reason to stop.

If anything arguing for them to actually be like Christ instead of flowing some religious hate mongering is more likely to bring about positive loving change.


I'm not saying that the whole religion thing didn't set them wrong to start, just that arguing someone out of their beliefs isn't going to make them less fucktards.

 

[mattpegher]

There is a giant, invisiable, purple bunny standing right behind you right now.

No, im serious, you can't prove its not there.

Pretty solid argument, right?

Yes to say that there may be an invisible intangible and undetectable phenomenon that is right behind me is possible. For example nutrinos pass through the earth on a regular basis but I currently do not have a nutrino sensing device. The important thing about your invisible purple bunny is can one define the nature of such a creature. First it would not be a bunny as any creature that is invisible and intangible would not be defined as a bunny. Second it would not be purple since purple is a visible wavelenght of light and therefore not "invisible". Could some semi-intelligent non-corporial creature exist along side our physical realm, well since lack of empiric evidence does not prove non-existence we would have to postulate whether such a creature is in the physical realm, within our 3 demensions of physical space (einsteins theory postulate a 4th and possibly higher demensions that we cannot detect but alter time-space by allowing time-space to bend within this 4th demension). It could be within these other demensions entirely or could it have projections into the 3 demensions we observe. As for contemplation of non-corporial existence, we have no basis for premise. The core issue of theism vs atheism is more about non-corporial intelligence than actually about a creator god. If you fail to grant the possibility of non-corporial intelligence then the argument simply stops there. If that is your premise then why bother discussing the metaphysics of possibilty at all. Ie just ignore the treads.

In order to discuss anything, you must start the discussion with a mutually accepted premise. The premise for this discussion can only be that empiric data cannot prove the non-existence of a phenomenone.

If you are unwilling to accept this premise then please suggest another premise that you honestly think I, (an atheistic pantheist) or a theist(faithfull) could be willing to accept.

 

[Paul98]

Most people atheists just don't know it. When you look at what they actually believe and not what they want to believe or what they think they should believe.

Edit: well I should put a qualifier in there, most rational people.

 

[artvscommerce]

Most people atheists just don't know it. When you look at what they actually believe and not what they want to believe or what they think they should believe.

Edit: well I should put a qualifier in there, most rational people.

Your post makes me think of the people who bet on the red AND the black. They believe because, if they're wrong there's no harm done, but they are afraid that if they don't believe there is a chance they could end up in hell. I love it.

 

[darkswordsman17]

You just couldn't stop...could you?

You respond with yet another typical response entailing typical trollish language....have fun living your ignorant life. I'm not an expert but usually people that attack others for no apparent reason are usually very unhappy with their lives and themselves.

I'm sorry if the only self gratification you can get is from trolling on an internet forum. unfortunately for you, you continue to confirm everything that's been previously said/observed.

Let me sum it up to you:

• Answer my question. (Are you going to tell me that these threads don't cause the same concerns and consequences that drove politics/news and love/relationship threads to separate areas?)
• AGAIN, learn some common courtesy...or....if you just don't have it in you...
• eat a dick
• jump off nearest tall building

To answer the original OP's question...no, I'm not really religious. I have nothing against someone who is.

Also, congrats, you got the results you were looking for when posing this question and he enthusiastically played the game. It's apparent that these religous threads really bring out the best in people as evidenced by this obviously highly mature and educated contributing poster.

Yes because you've been a prime example of common courtesy. Your idiotic tantrum in that other thread is why I responded to you in the first place, and you've just done the same thing since, while trolling the threads you keep whining about other people trolling.

I already answered your question, in fact I believe I answered it back the first time I ever responded to you, but again you're too stupid to actually realize this. Of course, like I said from the start that has obviously been your problem the entire time.

 

[BabaBooey]

For short periods of time when I think I am about to die.

 

[Nemesis 1]

and that's putting it lightly.

Oh no thought police . Its easy to see which people here don't mind losing the freedom of choice.

 

[Nik]

If you've got a billion people influenced by said bunny; people with empirical evidence of the social influence of said bunny... well it's in would be dishonest to deny the bunny's influence on society or dismiss who've been personally moved by said bunny.


Pasta, bunny, hat... imagine what you will; but what you imagine changes your will.

Provide empirical evidence that the social influence was anything more than a social influence. Provide empirical evidence that Christ was divine.

Then we'll talk. ()

 

[Gooberlx2]

I voted agnostic, though I disagree with the OP's definition of it. I wouldn't even consider myself spiritual, just that religion and god(s) are not something I concern myself with.

 

[Nemesis 1]

When My Mom died I was at her feet. The priest was about to give her last rights. My mom looked right at me . She new what I wanted . I will be darned if she didn't do it . She refused last rites. SHE refused dogma. cannon law and rejected the HRCC . I was never so happy in my life or proud. A false pride but never the less she did the correct thing . I have seen 2 atheist on their death bed convert at the last min . I loved them both but I was ashamed that in the end they thought they could be saved . Thats not reality.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Provide empirical evidence that the social influence was anything more than a social influence. Provide empirical evidence that Christ was divine.

Then we'll talk. ()

As far as I can tell Christ was the offspring of Cleopatra and Ceasar Both self proclaimed Gods . and one a Virgin the female . This also explains the empirical knowledge he was given . Your use of empirical is based upon common knowledge. Its much much deeper than that . Commoners do not have the same common knowlegde that say an emperor enjoys.
This word meaning threw time has changed , Check it out if you will .

2 examples of many,

Bald as used in scripture means white headed not skin headed

Gay until recently ment happy not homo sexual

 

[Dr. Zaus]

When My Mom died I was at her feet. The priest was about to give her last rights. My mom looked right at me . She new what I wanted . I will be darned if she didn't do it . She refused last rites. SHE refused dogma. cannon law and rejected the HRCC . I was never so happy in my life or proud. A false pride but never the less she did the correct thing . I have seen 2 atheist on their death bed convert at the last min . I loved them both but I was ashamed that in the end they thought they could be saved . Thats not reality.

How do you know?

 

[Jeff7]

Give me about 2000 years so the legend of the invisiable purple bunny can gain some traction and so the exact details of which can become misted over with time. After all, that and a few hallucinating crazies later on is all it took for Christianity to rise to the top.

I'm still betting on Astleyism taking off.

He's already got a solid list of things he's never gonna do.

 

[Nemesis 1]

How do you know?

Know what? I assume you mean how do I know she did the right thing . Look you take the evil out of the world and this place would be like heaven . But when so few have so much the resources of the world are not sharred equally . That makes hell on earth . It is your choice to live in this manner under these rules so hell on earth is your own doing . Remove the greed divide things evenly and there is plenty for all . Your already living in Gods kingdom all this was created for YOU Yet you let evil men take whats rightfully yours to share in . I believe a good spirit is born time and time again . Were as a greedy man when dead his spirit may become that of pigs. Native Americans really had alot of things right . If I could have choosen I time and place to live all time . It would be with native Americans befor the bloodlust arrived of the white man.

 

[Miramonti]

I don't know if I'm religious, I just like going to big churches downtown on Sundays so when I leave the service, I can scowl at those walking who didn't attend because they are obviously evil heathenistic god-haters.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Yes because you've been a prime example of common courtesy. Your idiotic tantrum in that other thread is why I responded to you in the first place, and you've just done the same thing since, while trolling the threads you keep whining about other people trolling.

I already answered your question, in fact I believe I answered it back the first time I ever responded to you, but again you're too stupid to actually realize this. Of course, like I said from the start that has obviously been your problem the entire time.

whatever, you win. Happy now? You're saying its OK to stir this kind of debate over religion in here but it's not OK to talk about politics or someone's love life....makes no sense...neither do you.

this thread has actually been relatively tame but most with religion in the title just lead to shit slinging.

Your first response and those that followed have been consistently rude and uncalled for. I have gone back and read all our discussions and from what I can gather...it's your problem. I'm not really sure why my first response was perceived as a rant...

I'm done with our little "discussion" as it's going nowhere. Agree to disagree.

 

[artvscommerce]

Oh no thought police . Its easy to see which people here don't mind losing the freedom of choice.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Juddog]

The vast majority of people that call themselves Christians don't actually follow most of the rules from the Bible. They worship a modern version of god instead of the one from the Bible, and "pick and choose" which passages are to be followed and which are to be ignored. They take some passages literally, while others are just seemingly poems to them.

http://youtu.be/Q0N6bh_qB58

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Know what? I assume you mean how do I know she did the right thing . Look you take the evil out of the world and this place would be like heaven . But when so few have so much the resources of the world are not sharred equally . That makes hell on earth . It is your choice to live in this manner under these rules so hell on earth is your own doing . Remove the greed divide things evenly and there is plenty for all . Your already living in Gods kingdom all this was created for YOU Yet you let evil men take whats rightfully yours to share in . I believe a good spirit is born time and time again . Were as a greedy man when dead his spirit may become that of pigs. Native Americans really had alot of things right . If I could have choosen I time and place to live all time . It would be with native Americans befor the bloodlust arrived of the white man.

So you've connected a number of propositions into a web of ethic: this is how my mind works so i suppose it's how yours does as well.

I am highly sympathetic to all of what you have expressed; some of my research now is about bringing the ecological and spiritual ethic of the native american perspective back into the social sciences.

But on the topic of Jesus: I like him, he's done good things for me.

I don't know if I'm religious, I just like going to big churches downtown on Sundays so when I leave the service, I can scowl at those walking who didn't attend because they are obviously evil heathenistic god-haters.

The faithless religious like this sure do hurt the cause of the people with experiences with Christ who simply want to share what they've gained with others.

 

[shadow9d9]

Im surprised at agnostic having the lowest votes.. Anyone smart enough to realize how ignorant we are, should keep their mind open to new ideas, so saying there is no god is just as bad as saying there is one

Its just the biblical definition of god is retarded, but there could be a supreme being out there, no doubt, just not some "special dude with super powers", more like an omnipresent consciousness

I think you need to look up the definition of atheism.