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ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
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Does that all mean pro-rapistreproduction?

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I didn't say anything about rape. The ratio of rape pregnancies to any other pregnancies is negligable in abortion arguments, so I don't even bother discussing it.

That child aborted due to rape was the child destined to cure cancer/aids/heart disease...
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
pro-don't-screw-wild-if-j00-can't-take-da-child

Does that all mean pro-rapistreproduction?

Edit: Trouble typing...
I didn't say anything about rape. The ratio of rape pregnancies to any other pregnancies is negligable in abortion arguments, so I don't even bother discussing it.

That child aborted due to rape was the child destined to cure cancer/aids/heart disease...

Of course it's worth discussing. If all rape is outlawed, those few cases of pregnancy from rape can't be aborted either.

If you think it's a good idea to carry the child after being raped, why don't you put your energy into something that will let you carry the fetus instead of the raped woman.

It's easy to tell a woman she should keep the child when theres zero chance you'll ever have to do the same.
 

jhu

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If she had an abortion, I wouldn't be here now. Maybe that's why I feel so strongly about adoption over abortion.

that's a moot point. 1) you wouldn't have known the difference and 2) how do you know you wouldn't come back as someone else?
 

0roo0roo

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ratio of miscarriages to abortions is probably pretty high. many women don't even notice and think its just a heavy period. all those souls wasted:p
 

SnapIT

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I am pro choice, when it comes to abortions and when it comes to ending your own life... (I.E Suicide)
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: redly1
personally, I would never let my gf/wife do it unless it was a medical issue, but I'm all for women having thier choice

You would not LET your gf/wife do it but you are all for women having their own choice.. are you stupid or dumb?
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sandigga
Originally posted by: Amused
I don't believe anybody should be forced to have something biologically attached and dependent on their bodies against their will.

If I stitched Richard Simmons to any one of you guys, and to remove him would kill him, I don't think a single one of you would give it a second thought.
against their will?? only if she was raped... its all about responsibility she chose to have sex.... she should know the risks of doing so.. I'm pro life but there are exceptions.. such as rape and if the mother's life is in danger....

What are you? The sex police who will ensure that women pay for their irresponsibility?
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She doesn't WANT a baby. To force her to keep a child to term is just that, against her will. Humans have not had sex solely for procreation for all of recorded history. I don't expect them to start now.

It's her body, her responsibility, her choice. I have a hell of a lot more respect for a woman who makes a mistake, knows she cannot afford to raise the child, knows that having the child will keep her from making more of herself and aborts than I have for a woman that keeps the kid and lives off the public tit.

So, she made a mistake... Why compound it and end up with another welfare queen with another unwanted, neglected child?

I totally agree with AmusedOne (which makes me kinda afraid)
 

Moonbeam

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SnapIT Quote:

I totally agree with AmusedOne (which makes me kinda afraid)
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You have to see that in perspective. It's not so much that you agree with him as he agrees with you.

 

radiocore

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Yes, Pro Choice, a person shoudl have the right to do anything they wish on to themselves as long as its not at the expense of someone else. :frown:
 

Rand

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100% Pro Choice.

That said- I also firmly believe that the vast majority of abortions would never have become necessary if couples would take adequate precautions.
If they don't want a child then the woman damn well better be on the pill, if their foolish enough not to take precautions then their not mature enough to be having sex in the first place.
If they don't take precautions then it's their fault if the woman gets pregnant and I have zero pity for them.-- Even then I'm still Pro Choice however, if reluctantly so.

In cases of rape, or pregnancy even when precautions have been taken then it is most definitely not their fault, and I firmly believe without hesitation that abortion should always be an option.
 

zhena

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I am pro-choice all the way...

I am sorry... BUT I CANNOT AT ALL UNDERSTAND WHY PRO-LIFERS THINK IT'S OK TO HAVE AN ABORTION IF THE GIRL HAS BEEN RAPED.
I of course agree with that, but i am pro choice.

HOWEVER!!!!
the argument of pro-lifers is that the fetus is in fact a living human being and it's not his fault he was created that?s why you can't "murder" a living human being.

what is the difference if the girl got raped or got drunk and had sex??????
there is not at all DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS.

what she does with the child after she gives birth is a different story...
BUT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS if the girl got raped or not.

one of the biggest points that pro-lifers bring up is that its not about the girl and how she feels. it's not about punishment or consequences. it's about the fetus/child.
there is no difference to the fetus/child if the girl was raped or was irresponsible.

this just shows how wrong pro-lifers are.

to them it's more about "taking responsibility for your actions" no matter how else they put it...
otherwise can any pro lifers in here explain to me why it's ok to have an abortion if you are raped?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: zhena
I am pro-choice all the way...

I am sorry... BUT I CANNOT AT ALL UNDERSTAND WHY PRO-LIFERS THINK IT'S OK TO HAVE AN ABORTION IF THE GIRL HAS BEEN RAPED.
I of course agree with that, but i am pro choice.

HOWEVER!!!!
the argument of pro-lifers is that the fetus is in fact a living human being and it's not his fault he was created that?s why you can't "murder" a living human being.

what is the difference if the girl got raped or got drunk and had sex??????
there is not at all DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS.

what she does with the child after she gives birth is a different story...
BUT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS if the girl got raped or not.

one of the biggest points that pro-lifers bring up is that its not about the girl and how she feels. it's not about punishment or consequences. it's about the fetus/child.
there is no difference to the fetus/child if the girl was raped or was irresponsible.

this just shows how wrong pro-lifers are.

to them it's more about "taking responsibility for your actions" no matter how else they put it...
otherwise can any pro lifers in here explain to me why it's ok to have an abortion if you are raped?

Pro-life means that the child does not get aborted, no matter what. Methinks you're a little confused. I'm pro-life and I don't think that it's okay to have an abortion in any situation, including rape
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nik
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: zhena
I am pro-choice all the way...

I am sorry... BUT I CANNOT AT ALL UNDERSTAND WHY PRO-LIFERS THINK IT'S OK TO HAVE AN ABORTION IF THE GIRL HAS BEEN RAPED.
I of course agree with that, but i am pro choice.

HOWEVER!!!!
the argument of pro-lifers is that the fetus is in fact a living human being and it's not his fault he was created that?s why you can't "murder" a living human being.

what is the difference if the girl got raped or got drunk and had sex??????
there is not at all DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS.

what she does with the child after she gives birth is a different story...
BUT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS if the girl got raped or not.

one of the biggest points that pro-lifers bring up is that its not about the girl and how she feels. it's not about punishment or consequences. it's about the fetus/child.
there is no difference to the fetus/child if the girl was raped or was irresponsible.

this just shows how wrong pro-lifers are.

to them it's more about "taking responsibility for your actions" no matter how else they put it...
otherwise can any pro lifers in here explain to me why it's ok to have an abortion if you are raped?

Pro-life means that the child does not get aborted, no matter what. Methinks you're a little confused. I'm pro-life and I don't think that it's okay to have an abortion in any situation, including rape
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nik

Perhaps you would like to take the 9 months labor and 18 years of support of the child for the woman who was careless enough to get raped. She probably wore a short skirt and deserved it.
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zhena

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ffmcobalt you are one of the few people that is pro life and stands by his opinion.
most of the pro lifers i know say if it's rape than it's ok to abort....
just look at the first page of this thread...
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: zhena
I am pro-choice all the way...

I am sorry... BUT I CANNOT AT ALL UNDERSTAND WHY PRO-LIFERS THINK IT'S OK TO HAVE AN ABORTION IF THE GIRL HAS BEEN RAPED.
I of course agree with that, but i am pro choice.

HOWEVER!!!!
the argument of pro-lifers is that the fetus is in fact a living human being and it's not his fault he was created that?s why you can't "murder" a living human being.

what is the difference if the girl got raped or got drunk and had sex??????
there is not at all DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS.

what she does with the child after she gives birth is a different story...
BUT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL TO THE FETUS if the girl got raped or not.

one of the biggest points that pro-lifers bring up is that its not about the girl and how she feels. it's not about punishment or consequences. it's about the fetus/child.
there is no difference to the fetus/child if the girl was raped or was irresponsible.

this just shows how wrong pro-lifers are.

to them it's more about "taking responsibility for your actions" no matter how else they put it...
otherwise can any pro lifers in here explain to me why it's ok to have an abortion if you are raped?
Like Nik I don't think it's right in any situation.