Are you losing your interest in politics?

[evident]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Here is something to ponder:

If you were *losing* interest in politics, that implies you were interested in the first place. Isn't there something to be said for that? If you were interested in politics in the first place, this could be a bad sign of overall mental health, imo.

most people i know who are into partisan politics really do have some type of mental or personality issues.

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
At one time, I actually cared...but nowadays, I've been lied to and fucked over by BOTH parties so many times that my "give-a-shit" is at an all-time low.

I know that no matter who actually gets elected, the corporations are the only ones who win...and the people always lose.

:thumbsup:

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: woodie1
The only way we can get our country back is to have term limits for Congress. Right now special interests are about the only thing that the current lawmakers listen to and it's been that way for decades. Get some new faces in there every 2 years and move the good old boy club somewhere else.

+280million

 

[nobodyknows]

I think politics is losing it's interest in us.

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: BudAshes

problem is that you then leave all control to the total asshats.

Maybe I've finally realized the truth..that they are all asshats.

Yeah, let's leave the field and allow those asshats to run amok. That's a great idea! :disgust:

You guys can stay and fight the good fight. I'm through. I need to worry about my own life and direction and it doesn't matter what I want or say anyway...corporate America runs the show and there is nothing that you or I can do about it, period.

Fox news has done us a great service! it opened the fly of the MSM!
And in that fly was a puss, oozing penis of a dirty ol'man!
Its not absolute checkmate friend, people in large numbers do have great influence.
Turning the tv off, don't read the MSM papers and talking actively to real people about what really matters can have a groundswell effect....worrying about yourself is what was the whole intent behind corporate controlled mass media. Things are changing, people don't fall for the same trick constainly, all the tricks have been exposed, people are aware whats going down.
Your admission of corporate control if that turning point, now the change you can make is to personally boycott the companies you know are tuning the system. Put your savings/loans with a credit union or a honorable bank, try to buy your food from a grower directly, go to a small business for services instead of a franchise, cancel your pay tv contract, don't trade shares, get outside and show a little of your heart of to your community. Its funny what you learn at walking speed, about your own environment.
Eat healthy food, be physically active, smile!
Go to a national park instead of a football game!
You can break the political hegemony the corporations have over the system all it takes is peoples conviction to cutting off their money flow and not relaxing that ideal as they morphose their sales pitches, under new management lines and pr angles.
They could be eliminated in a fiscal year! We can tomahawk the monkey on each others backs!
You can't buy a pound of dignity at wal-mart!

 

[GTKeeper]

I would go farther than term limits. How about no private money in politics at all? All elections can be funded by the gov't at a fixed price.

Make government work a PUBLIC SERVICE as its supposed to be!

 

[bobsmith1492]

Oh, I try to keep an eye on things but really there's nothing I can do about it so I don't worry. It's hard to fight the slowly creeping takeover of the government when there's no single thing to oppose.

It's the nature of governments to grow until they become too top-heavy and topple. I bet it'll topple during my lifetime... then I'll really be interested.

 

[alphatarget1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g

French Royalty back in the French Revolution = Politicians + lobbyists in the United States today.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
Oh, I try to keep an eye on things but really there's nothing I can do about it so I don't worry. It's hard to fight the slowly creeping takeover of the government when there's no single thing to oppose.

It's the nature of governments to grow until they become too top-heavy and topple. I bet it'll topple during my lifetime... then I'll really be interested.

That's the key insight right there. This sucker is going down.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Just a totally random example of what I'm talking about:

Boehner blasts Obama on Olympic trip

Same old typical sh*t. Both sides are so predictable, it doesn't matter if the other one poisons a cafeteria full of kids or empties his life savings into buying injured vets some fake legs, it's a knee-jerk. Both sides instinctively act to degrade the other. Constantly.

i'm disgusted with it, and this makes me more interested, on the hopes that even on the margin, i can do something about it.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: woodie1
The only way we can get our country back is to have term limits for Congress. Right now special interests are about the only thing that the current lawmakers listen to and it's been that way for decades. Get some new faces in there every 2 years and move the good old boy club somewhere else.

this will liekly do nothing, and on top of it you will be culling the bad and the good.

Originally posted by: GTKeeper
I would go farther than term limits. How about no private money in politics at all? All elections can be funded by the gov't at a fixed price.

Make government work a PUBLIC SERVICE as its supposed to be!

now this is something that would work, or at least be a reasonable start

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Wow, so many people discovering that the textbook fairy tales of their middle school civics class turned out to be false....

ayn rand lied to you

 

[First]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Wow, so many people discovering that the textbook fairy tales of their middle school civics class turned out to be false....

ayn rand lied to you

Hell, Ayn Rand lied to herself.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Engineer
Fuck politics. I'm so damn sick of it, not even funny.

Not funny? Seriously?

I often find it rather amusing. Take for example Republicans bashing Obama for running huge deficits, or when Democrats tell us we need to attack Iran because they have WMD's. It's downright hilarious if you let it be.

My wife and I have to listen to my mother-in-law preach the gospel that is Glenn Beck 24/7. I'm just sick of the whole thing that is politics and am trying my best to get away from them. I would rather be one of the wandering masses that don't know and don't care and let what happens happen.

I'll take this one step further my oldman thinks the drugster Rush limbaugh is GOD.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Ausm
I think in the end what real people want and/or need will never be accommodated for because Washington is controlled by Corporate interests. The only way this will ever change is if it is made illegal for politicians to be bought off which will NEVER happen.

Yep. That's one thing our Founding Fathers missed, tight controls to keep corporate and other special-interest money out of politics. Freedom of Speech is a noble concept, but it has been perverted into a crippling malignancy on democracy.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Wow, so many people discovering that the textbook fairy tales of their middle school civics class turned out to be false....

This lol.

Although I still have a tiny belief it will come true for some time one day.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Ausm
I think in the end what real people want and/or need will never be accommodated for because Washington is controlled by Corporate interests. The only way this will ever change is if it is made illegal for politicians to be bought off which will NEVER happen.

Yep. That's one thing our Founding Fathers missed, tight controls to keep corporate and other special-interest money out of politics. Freedom of Speech is a noble concept, but it has been perverted into a crippling malignancy on democracy.

There were no corporations (like the ones today) when the United States was first founded.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I lost interest ages ago. It is clear that neither party really gives a crap about anything other than staying in power and padding their own pockets (or the pockets of their pals). I post and read here simply for amusement and to laugh at the ultra-partisan hacks on both sides who obviously just don't get it.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows
I think politics is losing it's interest in us.

:thumbsup:

 

[Possessed Freak]

Are you losing your interest in politics?

Nope, despite the politics I am still earning 5% interest.

 

[spittledip]

I am not so sure about how interested I was in politics to being with. I mean, if you can't legislate morality, how can you legislate anything good? People's hearts and minds and motives remain the same. People are still corrupt even with new rules and laws in place. I am not so sure that politics is the problem- the people are the problem. That means all of us here. Aren't our politicians a representative of us? And are they representative of us in more than just on a political level? I would say yes. But yeah, I am tired of politics and have been for many years. I do not have faith in politics.. probably b/c I don't have much faith in human nature. I am tired of human nature, including my own.

 

[daniel49]

not tired of politics just tired of thinking discussing it here accomplishes anything.

 

[Atreus21]

We cannot escape this game. Politics is just another word for human affairs.

We are human. We disagree. That's politics. Accept it or live in ignorance.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: daniel49
not tired of politics just tired of thinking discussing it here accomplishes anything.

This man has a clue.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Engineer
Fuck politics. I'm so damn sick of it, not even funny.

Not funny? Seriously?

I often find it rather amusing. Take for example Republicans bashing Obama for running huge deficits, or when Democrats tell us we need to attack Iran because they have WMD's. It's downright hilarious if you let it be.

My wife and I have to listen to my mother-in-law preach the gospel that is Glenn Beck 24/7. I'm just sick of the whole thing that is politics and am trying my best to get away from them. I would rather be one of the wandering masses that don't know and don't care and let what happens happen.

problem is that you then leave all control to the total asshats.

They always seem to get all the control anyway ....... so what's your point?