Are you kidding me???

Turokc

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I just got a new mobo, X2 6000+ and a 8800GT. Now about 4 hours after everything is working perfectly, I get a message saying something like "Windows will deactivate in 3 days due to hardware changes" and it also says "This copy of windows is already in use". I just bought vista 4 months ago, and now do I have to buy another one?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Yes, and since I'm the only authorized seller in your area, you must pay me. :)




Did you already install this copy of Windows?
 

postmortemIA

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you are criminal!

good plan, force even vista users to not use it... now if only they would automatically force drivers update through windows update..
 

JackMDS

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If you bought the Vista OEM with specific hardware, it might be a problem.

Otherwise, call Microsoft Activation Support and explain the situation.

They are good about it and would help to reactivate.


 

jkresh

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it should take about a 5 minute call to Microsoft to get the problem solved.
 

LightningRider

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Yeah it's a real pain. Even just reinstalling and reactivating Vista requires you to phone them EVERY time. It's so lame I wish they would go back to the good old days with XP when you would only have to do that once in a while.
 

Mojoed

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This is why I bought the full retail version of Vista Ultimate. To me, it's worth the extra ~$100 to never have to worry about this.
 

tcsenter

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I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.

The most recent was over the weekend, on a laptop that hasn't had any hardware changes at all for well over one year. I plugged in the same wireless PC card that has been used in the laptop for nearly two years, and Windows Genuine Advantage pops-up telling me that my system hardware has changed 'significantly' since my last activation and I need to re-activate.

Wasn't a big deal, it accepted activation over the internet without having to call, but it shouldn't have needed to reactivate in the first place.
 

Turokc

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Ok it took like 2mins, he asked if it was installed on 1 computer and why I have to reactivate it and then he just gave me a new code. That was easy lol
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Turokc
Ok it took like 2mins, he asked if it was installed on 1 computer and why I have to reactivate it and then he just gave me a new code. That was easy lol
Good. It's still insulting and a pita that you have to bothered with this in the case where you know that it's legitimate and you're not some shop in Asia mass producing illegal copies.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.

shens.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.
It almost seems random. I've rarely had to reactivate and have swapped out hd's, gpu's, mb's, etc. One time I had to reactivate after a bios update.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.
It almost seems random. I've rarely had to reactivate and have swapped out hd's, gpu's, mb's, etc. One time I had to reactivate after a bios update.

So what you are saying is that it is "seemingly random"? :)

I couldn't help myself.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.
It almost seems random. I've rarely had to reactivate and have swapped out hd's, gpu's, mb's, etc. One time I had to reactivate after a bios update.

So what you are saying is that it is "seemingly random"? :)

I couldn't help myself.
:D

Hopefully it is 'seemingly' random and not just random...
 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
It almost seems random. I've rarely had to reactivate and have swapped out hd's, gpu's, mb's, etc. One time I had to reactivate after a bios update.
It is by no means a frequent occurance, maybe three times in five years (all different computers). Swapping out GPUs, hard drives, and MBs definitely can trigger re-activation, particularly the MB. I think XP allows up to three cumulative non-MB hardware changes like processor, HD, RAM, video card, audio hardware, before activation is triggered. A motherboard swap by itself should trigger re-activation, unless replacing with an identical board (or a near-identical board from the same vendor).

But in those few instances, there was no reason for re-activation according to Microsoft's published criteria - the hardware configuration had not changed in months. The times that I had to call MS activation support, when asked why I was re-activating, I told them I had no idea why Windows was asking me to re-activate. Their response was along the lines of 'That's OK, it happens quite a lot.'
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've had to reactivate XP for no good reason a few times on different computers. Just updating the video drivers, plugging in a USB device, something that should not trigger re-activation according to the published details of Microsoft's activation scheme.
It almost seems random. I've rarely had to reactivate and have swapped out hd's, gpu's, mb's, etc. One time I had to reactivate after a bios update.

The funny thing is I haven't had to reactivate XP since I reinstalled :p And I just installed 2 gigs of ram, and changed the video card a few times to test in Linux(but also booted into XP by accident...).
 

Old Hippie

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I told them I had no idea why Windows was asking me to re-activate. Their response was along the lines of 'That's OK, it happens quite a lot.'
They just wanna put ya on their Christmas card list.....that's the ticket. :)
 

seemingly random

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I wonder how much MS spends on the support staff, customer frustration and lost customers - some intangibles which are hard to quantify. I imagine they would loose more if they didn't have copy-protection - but it would be interesting to know how much more.
 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: potato28
The funny thing is I haven't had to reactivate XP...
...yet. Might happen to you, too. My point is that there does seem to be a small percentage of weird cases that defy the known criteria for re-activation and it can cut both ways.

IOW, there are cases where people have changed non-MB hardware multiple times without triggering re-activation, and cases where the hardware hasn't changed in several months but here comes WGA for no apparent reason. :roll:
 

Dacalo

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I replaced my 7800GTX with a 8800GT and Vista told me the same thing. I was like WTF...

Calling them and resolving the issue only took 5 minutes but still a pain in the ass.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Mojoed
This is why I bought the full retail version of Vista Ultimate. To me, it's worth the extra ~$100 to never have to worry about this.

You'll want to reread your EULA. The retail version has the same rules, only it allows 3 processor or motherboard changes, instead of it happening on the first change of either.
 

hellokeith

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Originally posted by: Turokc
Ok it took like 2mins, he asked if it was installed on 1 computer and why I have to reactivate it and then he just gave me a new code. That was easy lol

The fact that reactivation has been and still is painlessly easy appears to be lost on most of the posters in this thread.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Mojoed
This is why I bought the full retail version of Vista Ultimate. To me, it's worth the extra ~$100 to never have to worry about this.

You'll want to reread your EULA. The retail version has the same rules, only it allows 3 processor or motherboard changes, instead of it happening on the first change of either.
That was the old proposed EULA I believe. The EULA that went in to the retail version allows for it to be moved an unlimited number of times.