Are you as smart as an NFL Ref?

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nakedfrog

nakedfrog

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This seems more like "do you know as much about football as an NFL referee?", and I don't need to bother taking a quiz to be confident that they do know more about football than I do. Doesn't really address whether I'm smarter than they are or not.
 
PJFrylar

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I got them all right. I only got the one point safety one right, because I was watching a video of rare football plays like a month ago. The one point safety was on it twice, and oddly enough one of the commentators called both of those games. I had no idea about that rule until then.

Edit: The free kick and kick off out of bounds were on that video as well. The Packers have done both of those in the last 10 years or so though - the kick off out of bonds rule happening twice in like the last 5 (Cobb and Montgomery).
 
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Darwin333

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Wow, I really missed the kickoff touching a player who is out of bounds but the ball not being out of bounds one being a penalty on the kicking team with the ball placed on the 40. I would have thought that rule would be abused a hell of a lot that I'd have heard about it.
 
Red Storm

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People don't hate refs for the rare, obscure calls. It's the blatantly obvious crap they miss that makes fans rage.
 
PJFrylar

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Darwin333 said:
Wow, I really missed the kickoff touching a player who is out of bounds but the ball not being out of bounds one being a penalty on the kicking team with the ball placed on the 40. I would have thought that rule would be abused a hell of a lot that I'd have heard about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdw3Xj__eKA

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000115426/Cobb-s-smart-play

Like I mentioned in my post, the Packers have done it twice recently. They both would have looked really dumb if it din quite get close enough to the sideline though lol.
 
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PJFrylar

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Darwin333 said:
Oh I figured it had been done I just would have thought we'd be seeing this all the time and not just on rare occasions.
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I think it's just a matter of it being fairly rare to get an opportunity. A lot of kickoffs, particularly since they moved the ball up, are just kicks into the endzone near the middle of the field. It's also a risky play even when the opportunity is there. Particularly on the Montgomery one, if that ball takes a stronger hop towards the middle of the field, it ends up being a disaster. That's probably a touchdown for the Lions if he wasn't able to reach it.
 
pete6032

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Refs need to work on their fundamentals, not their obscure rule knowledge.
 
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Ken g6 said:
This. And I disagree with the call because time ran out before the touching occurred.
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They almost never go through the dog and pony show of throwing a flag and making the call, as it is just the receiving teams ball at the spot of the foul. Also, after a team on the punting team contacts it, the return team can try to advance it at no risk - they can't lose the ball if they fumble. If a returner does pick it up and fumbles, they can get it at the spot it was touched by the kicking team.

Edit: I suppose there is a risk of committing a penalty on the return.
Edit 2: I was referring to the wrong rule when saying it was extended because of a defensive penalty, see next post.
 
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Not saying I really think it's a good call, but it is the right one 2 -> 1.
ARTICLE 2. PERIOD EXTENDED
At the election of the opponent, a period may be extended for one untimed down, if any of the following occurs during a down during which time in the period expires:

  1. If there is a live-ball foul by the defensive team that is accepted, the offensive team may choose to extend the period by an untimed down after enforcement of the penalty. If the first or third period is not so extended, any accepted penalty is enforced before the start of the succeeding period.
  2. If there is a foul by the offense, there shall be no extension of the period. If the foul occurs on the last play of the half, a score by the offense is not counted. However, the period may be extended for an untimed down, upon the request of the defense, if the offensive team’s foul is for:
    1. illegal touching of a kick;
      Note: The period may also be extended for a “first touching” violation.
    2. fair-catch interference;
    3. a palpably unfair act;
    4. a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct foul committed prior to a safety, an interception of a forward pass, the recovery of a backward pass or fumble, or the offensive team failing to reach the line to gain on fourth down; or
    5. a foul by the kicking team prior to a player of the receiving team securing possession of the ball during a down in which there is a safety kick, a scrimmage kick, or a free kick.
 
JujuFish

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PJFrylar said:
They almost never go through the dog and pony show of throwing a flag and making the call, as it is just the receiving teams ball at the spot of the foul. Also, after a team on the punting team contacts it, the return team can try to advance it at no risk - they can't lose the ball if they fumble. If a returner does pick it up and fumbles, they can accept the penalty and get it at the spot it was touched by the kicking team.
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It's not a penalty; it's a violation.
 
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