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Are you a psychopath?

Beev

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Taken from the wiki page:

Factor 1
Aggressive narcissism

1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Factor 2
Socially deviant lifestyle

1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsiveness
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavioral problems
10. Revocation of conditional release

Traits not correlated with either factor

1. Many short-term marital relationships
2. Criminal versatility

I didn't realize it was so easy to classify a broad illness such as psychopathy... I myself meet six of the criteria from Factor 1, or so I think anyway :awe:, and only one from Factor 2. Anyone here meet all of the criteria from either?
 

MJinZ

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1) This is normal, unless you are doing so in a cold and calculated manner
2) This is usually a good thing, as opposed to lack of self esteem
3) Lying is natural, but pathologically doing so for calculated goals and intents...
4) Aka - Smart?
5) This psychopathic
6) ^
7) ^
8) ^

That said, I would qualify for 1 & 4... which is to say many people probably do without any issue.

Lifestyle wise, I disagree with any of them being reflective of psychopathy. Many people are just idiots, lazy, or retarded.
 

robphelan

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wouldn't
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
be very closely related? almost in the same category?
 

destrekor

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1) This is normal, unless you are doing so in a cold and calculated manner
2) This is usually a good thing, as opposed to lack of self esteem
3) Lying is natural, but pathologically doing so for calculated goals and intents...
4) Aka - Smart?
5) This psychopathic
6) ^
7) ^
8) ^

That said, I would qualify for 1 & 4... which is to say many people probably do without any issue.

Lifestyle wise, I disagree with any of them being reflective of psychopathy. Many people are just idiots, lazy, or retarded.

The difference is, most researchers recognize a few of those things on their own are absolutely harmless.
It's when you showcase the entire list, that branding an individual as psychopathic is an easy task.

I'd wholly agree.
I have a few of those traits, and see no problem with them.
But I'd fear myself if I showcases more than the handful I already do. On their own, those traits can be qualities. But a large number of them in combination with each other presents a danger to self and public.
 

Azraele

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I didn't realize it was so easy to classify a broad illness such as psychopathy...

I think on the contrary, it's probably hard to define. They chose those traits in an attempt to narrow a poorly understood condition into a more concrete definition. Individually, one or two of those traits in a person doesn't make them a psychopath, but when a person has a majority of all of those factors, then you have a problem.
 

SirStev0

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You need to realize that with all the personality disorders is that they only become a true "disorder" when they affect your ability to function in society.

You could be a raging douchebag and still be able to function in society. You would just be a douche. When you start abducting prostitutes and stabbing the sin out of them, then you become a psychopath.
 

MJinZ

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You need to realize that with all the personality disorders is that they only become a true "disorder" when they affect your ability to function in society.

You could be a raging douchebag and still be able to function in society. You would just be a douche. When you start abducting prostitutes and stabbing the sin out of them, then you become a psychopath.

I think you could be a Psychopath and not do anything crazy. Some of the "great" world leaders were probably psychopaths.
 

HumblePie

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I think the point is cognitive intent with those factors as well as frequency.

For example a narcissist MUST have a high self esteem worth going at all times. They constantly let nothing penetrate that armor of self esteem because it is a bubble or shield. To pop it typically sends them into a massive depressive episode which has a high mortality rate from suicide depending on the level of narcissism. Many people are functioning narcissists without realizing it, but being a narcissist by itself is not that bad a mental problem. It's other characteristics that narcissists also have which give major rise to psychological problems. Like sociopaths or psychopaths.



The problem is, with mental diagnosis is there are way too many shared common traits between most of the types of mental classifications. That, and it is damn near impossible to completely analyze everything about a person. You go to one doctor and they may only see symptoms X and Y and conclude you are bipolar 2. Another sees X, Y, Z and think you have bi polar 3. Another sees R, X, and Y and thinks you have borderline tendancies. Another sees D, R, X, and Y and thinks you are mostly schizo.

That's why these lists are terrible especially for trying to use them for self diagnosis as normal people don't typically have the perspective of what those symptoms mean, what they are suppose to represent, and how they are suppose to be expressed to be considered a symptom. Even professionals who are suppose to be trained at this only get it right about 80% of the time. Meaning 1 in 5 times a professional gets it wrong if my memory of that statistic serves me right.

Also, normal people, ie those with no mental problems, will still exhibit damn near every symptom there is at one point in their life. Everyone gets depressed. Everyone does something spectacular that inflates their ego for a time. Everyone has a random mood swing from time to time. The difference is in those mental symptoms being controlled and not the other way around by a person that makes them normal. A normal person can get out of depression. A bipolar 2 can not without medicine. That's the difference.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I think you could be a Psychopath and not do anything crazy. Some of the "great" world leaders were probably psychopaths.

I don't know specifics, but my understanding is many mental diseases require for it to affect your daily life for it to be diagnoised as such. So they might have symptoms of it, but not actually be it; I don't know for sure though.
 

gaidensensei

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Since when does being narcissitic = psycho?
I can already forsee lots of the forum people act under that category, I don't think its a foolproof diagnosis. This is coming from someone who went in depth with the human behavioral classes.

Last of all, usually I think how someone socializes / behavior on the net is not a proper representation of how they are in reality.
 
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I think there are far more psychopaths out there in the world than most folks realize. And typically they are people that are deemed "successful" by societal standards.
 

Sluggo

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Factor 1
Aggressive narcissism

1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions



Those are traits of about 80% of the regular posters here.
 

HumblePie

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Since when does being narcissitic = psycho?
I can already forsee lots of the forum people act under that category, I don't think its a foolproof diagnosis. This is coming from someone who went in depth with the human behavioral classes.

Last of all, usually I think how someone socializes / behavior on the net is not a proper representation of how they are in reality.

It doesn't. Did you read the prefix? It states AGGRESSIVE narcissism. There is more to it than being a narcissist to being a psychopath. That is just one element.
 
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It's like they looked at my list of qualities in my dream girl and copied it word for word! Buttholes....I want credit for it!