Are you a hacker?

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Originally posted by: gopunk
If you want to want to be a l33t computer geek why not do something constructive like coding for a game mod team?

"if only he'd used his powers for good instead of evil" -- old movie and TV cliche

funny you bring that up.... my inspiration for this thread was that we've been getting spam from this one site on a ton of our lists. i just wish hackers would spend less time attacking sites like yahoo and ebay and more time attacking known spammers. not that i would ever condone illegal activity.

I wouldn't shed any tears if they decided to "0wnz0r" a few of those "direct advertising" companies that use net sends.

- M4H
 

MainFramed

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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: here4amission
i know how to snag IP's from like people on MSN and AIM...ICQ...IRC...and i can kick em offline. "PING PONG!" :p that dont require skill tho.. :)
The only requirement being that you are a highschool student want-to-be hacker.

not even high school, but eh not a wanna be hacker ;) i wouldnt even really call that "hacking"
 

Nocturnal

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majority of the people who are experts in networking and what not could probably hack. not saying they do, but they know enough about their stuff that if they had to they could.

i know diddly squat about hacking. i was always interested in hacking though.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Hacking is about looking at things a little differently to solve a problem. It is not the same thing as a cracker. Writing software can be considered hacking.
Sorry, but no. Languages evolve and the more common defition for hacker is now a cracker. The original definition is sadly becoming archaic and all the protesting in the world can't stop the change. gopunk used the modern sense of the word, and I replied in kind.
 

CurtCold

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...I was hacking quite well as the Dorito slid down my esophagis.....Therefore I'm a really a good "hacker."
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Hacking is about looking at things a little differently to solve a problem. It is not the same thing as a cracker. Writing software can be considered hacking.
Sorry, but no. Languages evolve and the more common defition for hacker is now a cracker. The original definition is sadly becoming archaic and all the protesting in the world can't stop the change. gopunk used the modern sense of the word, and I replied in kind.

I refuse to let the ignorant media redefine the English language.
 

scorp00

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Me and my buddy found the admin password for all of the computers in our school district in high school. :) It was fun until the cops showed up and escorted us into a room where our parents were waiting along with the principal. :(

We just used the brute force method with words. It only took 5-10 hours to find it. The password was "superman". Who uses superman as an admin password for thousands of computers? What an idiot. They didn't discover that we tried to find it, or that we did find it. The only way that they discovered it was when we ran seti on all of the machines. :( We didn't crack it to run seti, it just sounded like a good idea. We found the password because we did the weeks programs in 20 minutes and that left us with 7 hours a week with nothing to do. The teacher forbid us getting on the internet or playing games. "Practice writing programs" so that's what we did. :)

We could of easily gotten into some serious trouble for that one. But we just had to stay afterschool and saturday's for a month and clean up the school.

I try to stay out of stuff like this nowadays.
 

Mucman

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Originally posted by: scorp00
Me and my buddy found the admin password for all of the computers in our school district in high school. :) It was fun until the cops showed up and escorted us into a room where our parents were waiting along with the principal. :(

We just used the brute force method with words. It only took 5-10 hours to find it. The password was "superman". Who uses superman as an admin password for thousands of computers? What an idiot. They didn't discover that we tried to find it, or that we did find it. The only way that they discovered it was when we ran seti on all of the machines. :( We didn't crack it to run seti, it just sounded like a good idea. We found the password because we did the weeks programs in 20 minutes and that left us with 7 hours a week with nothing to do. The teacher forbid us getting on the internet or playing games. "Practice writing programs" so that's what we did. :)

We could of easily gotten into some serious trouble for that one. But we just had to stay afterschool and saturday's for a month and clean up the school.

I try to stay out of stuff like this nowadays.

Hehe, good story, but I believe a true hacker doesn't leave a trace :)

 

Derango

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Originally posted by: Jzero
I guess you mean "cracker" b/c I'm quite the hacker in the traditional sense of the word, but I don't know that much about how to 0wnz0r ur b0x0r.

I was going to post this...but instead I'll just quote it :)

 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Hacking is about looking at things a little differently to solve a problem. It is not the same thing as a cracker. Writing software can be considered hacking.
Sorry, but no. Languages evolve and the more common defition for hacker is now a cracker. The original definition is sadly becoming archaic and all the protesting in the world can't stop the change. gopunk used the modern sense of the word, and I replied in kind.

I refuse to let the ignorant media redefine the English language.
Then you should change your name to GrampaSimpson ;)

"I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel and in those days nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them, "give me five bees for a quarter," they'd say. Now, where were we? Oh yeah - the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions, because of the war - the only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."

The modern definition of hacker is the only definition that the general populace understands. You can blame the media, but the damage has already been put on.
 

n0cmonkey

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Jun 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Hacking is about looking at things a little differently to solve a problem. It is not the same thing as a cracker. Writing software can be considered hacking.
Sorry, but no. Languages evolve and the more common defition for hacker is now a cracker. The original definition is sadly becoming archaic and all the protesting in the world can't stop the change. gopunk used the modern sense of the word, and I replied in kind.

I refuse to let the ignorant media redefine the English language.
Then you should change your name to GrampaSimpson ;)

"I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel and in those days nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them, "give me five bees for a quarter," they'd say. Now, where were we? Oh yeah - the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions, because of the war - the only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."

The modern definition of hacker is the only definition that the general populace understands. You can blame the media, but the damage has already been put on.

Now did you memorize that or did you find it to copy/paste? :p

Ignorance rules so we shouldnt try to fix it huh? The best part about the true definition of hacker is that it can encompass so much. Some crackers can be hackers, some very non-technical people can be hackers. It is a versitile word and should not be limited by ignorance. Just my opinion though. :)
 

scorp00

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Originally posted by: Mucman
Originally posted by: scorp00
Me and my buddy found the admin password for all of the computers in our school district in high school. :) It was fun until the cops showed up and escorted us into a room where our parents were waiting along with the principal. :(

We just used the brute force method with words. It only took 5-10 hours to find it. The password was "superman". Who uses superman as an admin password for thousands of computers? What an idiot. They didn't discover that we tried to find it, or that we did find it. The only way that they discovered it was when we ran seti on all of the machines. :( We didn't crack it to run seti, it just sounded like a good idea. We found the password because we did the weeks programs in 20 minutes and that left us with 7 hours a week with nothing to do. The teacher forbid us getting on the internet or playing games. "Practice writing programs" so that's what we did. :)

We could of easily gotten into some serious trouble for that one. But we just had to stay afterschool and saturday's for a month and clean up the school.

I try to stay out of stuff like this nowadays.

Hehe, good story, but I believe a true hacker doesn't leave a trace :)

Very true. We had the password for a while before we loaded seti. Got overconfident. :(

Plus I know we left tons of traces all over the place. Just no one looked until they noticed a huge jump in their bandwidth.
 

illusion88

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My Soph year of High School I worked with the computer guy (who couldnt tell his left foot from his right I swear to god!). We fixed computers and set up the secruity. He got his A+ by some kind of miricle I dont know...

Anyways... We were plagued by idiots who would upload stupid virri and just cause harm. So I took it upon myself to stop all of this. I reworked the whole secruity system. I uploaded a decent virri scanner, Got different passwords in every room (it used to be one global pw), and added a whole bunch of write privilage stuff. After it was all done it worked. The virri and mayhem stopped.

And Still people tried to work MY SYSTEM! Stupid punks. So I got some logging program that basicly logged about everything. We caught the three punks who were doing. Danm b@stards. They didn't have any skills. We even caught a decent hacker. He was changing grades for students, and no one had an Idea. He didn't leave much of a trace, except one time, I got an email from a teacher who claimed she couldn't open the file, saying it was inuse. So I looked into it and found some FTP records of it beign recieved and then sent back. So apparently he would do the actual editing at home. Not sure why, if he could get to the file he could have easily changed it there. Oh well, just luck of the draw on that one. He was more of a hacker then the stupid script kiddies who did all the damage. I felt bad having to get him in trouble. But all the same, do Hackers prosper? Sure they do, but you never hear about it, because a true hacker doesn't show himself.

"You dont learn to hack, you hack to learn"