agent00f: There's a bias, ie empathy, in everyone to think others are like us. In fact we're often naturally disturbed by people not like us.
M: Back in 1999 I was the only person on this forum emphasizing that fact. You say things that are true and yet you do not know why they are true, you don't see these facts lie on deeper principles, you lack an understanding of motivation as almost the whole world does, the truth is terribly painful for anybody with an ego to bear.
a: I think your observations are decent up to this point, but let's put in the context of said empathy. If a person measures himself through skill at figuring things out and getting them right, he will naturally assume someone else is trying to do the same thing, and their failure at it is a reflection of lack of skill acquisition, or iow "stupidity"
M: Lets put it in the proper context. If a person has a fabricated false image of himself that protects him or her from seeing themselves as the really are because they have been made to feel that who they really are is worthless he or she is going to be intentionally 'stupid' about anything that points to that truth.
a: That assumption is the basis of what you're calling "brain defect", and this is where you'll need to ponder further: this is also at the root of that defect conservatives have. To wit, when a conservative reads breitbart and posts that garbage, he thinks that's the same thing as liberals, posting from their liberal media.
M: Every clown suckered by Breitbart is suckered by them because he or she wants to be suckered, has an unconscious emotional need to maintain the ego which buffers against the pain of one's real feelings. But conservatives have a larger pallet of moral values they cater to including a respect for authority, a need for purity group identity.
a: You're largely right/astute that for whatever reason different people do seem to think about the world differently, but their communication flaws in this case both manifest because they each assume the other is just like them.
M: Again, you are telling me what I already know minus what I know also, the reasons behind this.
a: Do you similarly psychoanalyze animals whom you've seen kill when it's in their self interest? Is the cat that's loyal to you but hunts smaller animals for food good or bad?
M: Good and evil do not exist. They are mental constructs that have no actual reality in the world. They are created by thought based on language which can be used to make people feel evil by putting them down. Only those so self divided are capable of evil because they become what they feel. No animal is evil because no other animal but man can hate itself.
a: Think carefully about how these word are being used. I just said they seem to lack virtues like intellectual honesty, deference, or learned empathy for others not exactly like them. When people of that nature act in their self-interest, civilization is poorer for it, just as life was before those virtues were widespread.
M: You think all you want. Wisdom comes from feeling not thinking. What you say here is true but where you go with it is not. You can't blame conservatives for the fact they believe in evil. All of humanity is divided against the self in that way. Only love can unify the self.
a: Many children before learn these and other virtues are often cruel and destructive. Sometime their behavior is best modified by kindness/carrots, and if that doesn't work then more strict means. I mean, you've already more or less admitted they're not the sort to learn things through intellectual methods, so explaining right or wrong to them certainly isn't going to work, per you own understanding of defects above.
M: It is very simple, really. When ones personal insanity harms others one has to be stopped by whatever means necessary.
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