PSA: Don't update your Gigabyte B650 mobo to latest BIOS otherwise you may lose PCIe 5.0 x16 support and have it downgraded to PCIe 4.0 x16.
Why? This is literally a skip generation due to the horrible drivers.
There's no telling that the situation is so bad (could be hardware bugs in silicon) that 6090 ends up being the fixed version and then you just get maintenance updates for 5090 and 6090 ends up looking a lot better and you end up feeling screwed out of your money.
I'm almost expecting nVidia to release the 5090DD worldwide.
Saw there's a 5070 at Amazon for $548 (!)
Would've been almost interesting with 16GB VRAM.
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LMAO... so i can start round 2 again with the vapor supply chain, and fighting hard with scalpers.
Sigh.... at this rate, i'll probably never get an upgrade past my 4090, and when i do, it will cost more then what you can get for a 10yr used car with less then 60k miles.
Yeah im also expecting this so they don't kill off there own AI sector.
They will make you buy the professional series card if u want AI unlocked.
Sort of how they locked transcoding on the non quadro cards from back, where u were limited to a set amount of streams vs a real quadro that had as many as you could throw on it.
marees
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So wut's happening 🤔
marees
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Another link
According to Boardchannels, via Chiphell, the RTX 50 series GPUs have been stocked way above the ideal levels. This happened mainly because of low sales and continuous supply.
As per the insider, this has happened because of a sharp drop in the terminal sales, leading to declines in the retail and even wholesale prices. Due to the overstocking, the industry experts now expect the manufacturers to lower their prices throughout August.
Nvidia To Cut RTX 50 GPU Prices Amid Poor Sales And Oversupply, Claims Insider
Industry experts have revealed that Nvidia is expected to cut the prices of the RTX 50 series GPUs due to less demand and more supply.
tech4gamers.com
marees
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From source:Another link
According to Boardchannels, via Chiphell, the RTX 50 series GPUs have been stocked way above the ideal levels. This happened mainly because of low sales and continuous supply.
As per the insider, this has happened because of a sharp drop in the terminal sales, leading to declines in the retail and even wholesale prices. Due to the overstocking, the industry experts now expect the manufacturers to lower their prices throughout August.
Nvidia To Cut RTX 50 GPU Prices Amid Poor Sales And Oversupply, Claims Insider
Industry experts have revealed that Nvidia is expected to cut the prices of the RTX 50 series GPUs due to less demand and more supply.
因销量严重下滑，供大于求，50系显卡预计将在8月降价 - 电脑讨论(新) - Chiphell - 分享与交流用户体验
因销量严重下滑，供大于求，50系显卡预计将在8月降价,转载自ChannelGate视博合聚2025年07月29日 12:03 上海紧急注意，各品牌显卡厂商可能即将开始调价，月底已有厂家开始提前动作，适当调整RTX50系列的成本价格，意在协助 ...,电脑讨论(新),讨论区-生活与技术的讨论 ,Chiphell - 分享与交流用户体验
www-chiphell-com.translate.goog
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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-WINDFORCE-Graphics-GV-N5070WF3-12GD/dp/B0F72TVCGF/
Gigabyte has had some of the lowest prices on AMD and Nvidia models lately.
This rumor making the rounds seems unlikely - https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-cut-rtx-50-gpu-prices-poor-sales-oversupply/
If it is somehow accurate, could we get the first decent price war in a while?
EDIT: LOL @marees posted it. I missed the whole thing it appears.
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lets be real here...
i bought my 3090 for 1899... it was the EVGA FTW3 version. hence the markup, but FE was 1499.
I then got my 4090 FE 1599. Thats only 100 dollars more then what the 3090 costed.
The 5090 is 1999. And the higher AIB models over over 3000 dollars, and they were still out of stock because scalpers be buying the card instead of paying rent, trying to make 2000 dollars off each.
The 5090 pricing is a JOKE. Jensen said oh the 5090 is for people with 10,000 dollar gaming PC.
TELL ME PLEASE... which Gaming PC has a price tag of $10k without a bloated over priced 5090 costing more then HALF of that from AIBs?
4 Elephants in the room.... and they are all stupid dumb because Nvidia AI generated them.
Im just scared the 6090FE will cost 2499, with ASUS ASTRAL version costing upwards of 4k, with scalpers trying to vend it off for 10k each.
i bought my 3090 for 1899... it was the EVGA FTW3 version. hence the markup, but FE was 1499.
I then got my 4090 FE 1599. Thats only 100 dollars more then what the 3090 costed.
The 5090 is 1999. And the higher AIB models over over 3000 dollars, and they were still out of stock because scalpers be buying the card instead of paying rent, trying to make 2000 dollars off each.
The 5090 pricing is a JOKE. Jensen said oh the 5090 is for people with 10,000 dollar gaming PC.
TELL ME PLEASE... which Gaming PC has a price tag of $10k without a bloated over priced 5090 costing more then HALF of that from AIBs?
4 Elephants in the room.... and they are all stupid dumb because Nvidia AI generated them.
Im just scared the 6090FE will cost 2499, with ASUS ASTRAL version costing upwards of 4k, with scalpers trying to vend it off for 10k each.
DrMrLordX
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Maybe it's time for people to stop buying NV cards if the prices are too high.
Heartbreaker
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This has pretty much NOTHING to do with gaming.
Unless something changes to blunt AI demand, '090 cards are just going to remain largely sold out at anywhere near MSRP.
Nvidia's strategy for sales declines so far has been to induce artificial shortages by just keeping the chips in warehouses, waiting for the stock in retail and distribution to go out.
It seems weird to me that they wouldn't do this now. Can't they just reconfigure the 4N wafers from RTX chips to GB100 or GH100 that seem to have infinite demand? Or even just GB202 for RTX Pro cards?
I doubt this will be true, since Blackwell has a bunch of architectural upgrades (like 8xFP4 throughput) focused on transformer inference performance that seems to be the baseline for near-future and state-of-the-art gaming-related genAI loads (neural textures, DLSS4, eventually small language models, audio transcribers, etc).
Blackwell's problems seem to be electrical more than architectural. I think it'll be a bit like the first Fermi generation of GPUs (GTX4xx), where performance per watt was pretty terrible compared to Terascale but it ended up becoming the first DX12 feature_level 11 architecture (meaning you could still play most recent games on it, if they fit the VRAM).
Especially the 5090, being the first "consumer" 32GB GPU, should have quite the long lifetime. At least until there's a massive revamp of the RT pipeline in DirectX that demands less rigid hardware blocks.
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Maybe there is something to that rumor. Asus Prime 5070 for $548.99 https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-SFF-Ready-Graphics-2-5-Slot-Axial-tech/dp/B0DS6V1YSY/
VirtualLarry
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I want the new cute MSI RTX 5060 with the circular ITX cooler. 8-pin though.
It would be an 8GB replacement for a 4GB GTX 1650 .
It would be an 8GB replacement for a 4GB GTX 1650 .
Almost $400 it could be: https://www.ple.com.au/products/675860/msi-geforce-rtx-5060-inspire-itx-oc-8gb-gddr7
VirtualLarry
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no it has everything to do with gaming.
The RTX cards were originally designed for GAMERS.
Its just that people made good use of productivity with them as well.
This used to happen a long time ago with Quadro series cards.
The original Geforce cards did just as well if not better for cheaper then what Quadro cards did, that they locked transcoding on the lower end ones, so they could sell them.
Now the only thing is if they can easily disable AI commands on the 090 cards like the D models, sell them for cheaper, but they rather just bump prices and not do anything because the waffer size and the cost to make the die is the same.
I really just want a videocard with a ton of gaming prowess, doesn't need AI, doesn't need transcoding. All it needs to do is render RTX, DLSS, has a lot of memory, and be able to steam roll though any gaming engine @ 4K with 120fps+, and not cost more then what the monthly payments on a lease for a luxury car is.
But then i guess thats about the same as me wishing for AMD to come out with a Ryzen X3D with 64+ PCI-E lanes so i can get my butt off Threadripper (the destroyer of credit cards), which i think i would need to be run over by Truck-kun, and end up in an Isekai world of some sort where things like that can happen.
ITX cards always sell at a premium, unfortunately. I had to import my passive cooled KalmX 3050 6GB from Germany coz it's usually hard to find. But when it did eventually become available on my local Amazon, I would've saved maybe max $70 vs. importing it.
They were and mostly are, but since Ampere the x090 cards replaced the Titan prosumer lineup, using larger VRAM pools and the bigger x02 chips.
These are mutually inclusive, though.
Also, I bet nvdec and nvenc are pretty tiny blocks.
GodisanAtheist
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Used market is still a clown show.
New stuff just isn't putting much/any downward pressure on the last Gen line-up, people don't really have anything to really sell and upgrade too so inventory isn't there.
New stuff just isn't putting much/any downward pressure on the last Gen line-up, people don't really have anything to really sell and upgrade too so inventory isn't there.
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Hell, one brand or another of 3060 12GB has been in the number one spot on Amazon consistently. 30 series has multiple models in the top 10 every time I look now. The 3050 6GB being the other. Bigger bar better is losing to VRAM and pricing? I suppose the 6GB could also be popular because it is the best new card in the $200 and under tier, also slot powered, for rehabbing the cheap Intel 8th/9th gen office PCs.
2020 hardware tech, Zen 3 and 30 series, are going strong in retail half a decade later. I'd of lost that bet.
SteveGrabowski
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Meh might get me excited if the 5070 Ti was $550. No way I'm spending over five bills on a 12GB card.
Typo? The Ti is 16GB, the plain 5070 is 12GB. I'm curious about the price of the rumored Super cards with 3GB gddr7 chips.
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