Are Toyotas prone to warping rotors?

jtvang125

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Anyone else battling brake shutter on their Toyota that just keeps coming back. Fourth set of front rotors will be put on this weekend. 3 past and 1 current Hondas in the family never had a problem. Sister's Rav4 and my dad's T100 truck has had brake shutter in the past as well due to warped rotors.

Rotors are cheap but it's a bit annoying when it keeps coming back.
 

foghorn67

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Yep. Helped replace my friends 05 4runners rotors twice.

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exdeath

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Nope. Stop buying cheap Chinese rotors.

And increase following distance and don't heat up or ride the brakes when driving in the rain... or at all for that matter.
 
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jtvang125

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Nope. Stop buying cheap Chinese rotors.

And increase following distance and don't heat up or ride the brakes when driving in the rain... or at all for that matter.

Didn't matter if I went good quality aftermarket or OEM. I don't have time to go to the dealer to get OEM ones so I'm just going with some midrange ones from kragen this time. Same thing with my dad. All of his are OEM from Toyota dealer.

And we don't do any of that. People who ride their brakes piss me off.
 

exdeath

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How big are the rotors compared to the inside of the wheel? Do they have room to breath and cool?
 

Howard

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How much do the rotors weigh and what is their outside diameter? They might just be too light (spec'd by Toyota of course).
 

Meghan54

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All those vehicles you've had to repeatedly replace rotors on have aluminum rims on them, right OP?
 

jjmIII

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Rotors are cheap but it's a bit annoying when it keeps coming back.

You said it. If you buy cheap rotors, that's what you get. A good rotor cost more and uses better metals. Cheap-o's are recycled over and over.
 

SearchMaster

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I buy the cheapest chinese rotors I can find, use hipo street/entry level lapping day pads, daily drive along with race my car with 224/45/13 R-compound tires and do not get warped rotors.
On my otherwise stock toyota echo.

Hint: it's not the rotors.

Read: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

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224's? Those must be a bitch to find.

Out of curiosity, how well does the Echo do at racing?
 

Viperoni

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224's? Those must be a bitch to find.

Out of curiosity, how well does the Echo do at racing?

Took me almost as long to find the matching 13x7.5 Lenso's :p

Pretty decent for what it is actually. With the car bone stock except for EBC yellows, synthetic brake fluid and 225/45/13 Toyo R888's, on a lapping day, I can keep up with most other lightly modded FWD or AWD cars with sumers that have less than 160hp (subie RS's, civics, etc). I had slightly positive camber front camber then too lol.

Now I've got a hipo alignment along with springs, Koni yellows and soon a rear sway bar.
 

foghorn67

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Nope. Stop buying cheap Chinese rotors.

And increase following distance and don't heat up or ride the brakes when driving in the rain... or at all for that matter.
Nope. Sorry, I have replaced more Toyota rotors than anything else.
 

Howard

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All those vehicles you've had to repeatedly replace rotors on have aluminum rims on them, right OP?
If anything aluminum rims would reduce the tendency of the rotor to warp since they pull heat away better, no?
 

MikeMike

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I buy the cheapest chinese rotors I can find, use hipo street/entry level lapping day pads, daily drive along with race my car with 224/45/13 R-compound tires and do not get warped rotors.
On my otherwise stock toyota echo.

Hint: it's not the rotors.

Read: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

/thread

came here to post this...

Rotors don't warp, there is no possible way they will, the pad will melt before the rotor gets hot enough to warp
 

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Lexus rx330 with air suspension 2004 is starting to show its not constant decrease in speed.
 

Viperoni

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came here to post this...

Rotors don't warp, there is no possible way they will, the pad will melt before the rotor gets hot enough to warp

Never on the street, but wouldn't a rotor thats glowing oraneg hot during a race be hot enough to warp?
 

brblx

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he's trying to sound smart by arguing semantics.

typical brake pulsation is not caused by warped rotors, they're caused by rotors with a thickness variation. on;y that variation isn't going to be identical on both sides of the rotor...so technically it IS warpage...
 

foghorn67

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he's trying to sound smart by arguing semantics.

typical brake pulsation is not caused by warped rotors, they're caused by rotors with a thickness variation. on;y that variation isn't going to be identical on both sides of the rotor...so technically it IS warpage...
Your avatar still rocks.
 

BUTCH1

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I've got 61K on my current rotors (GM), I invested in a torque wrench to make sure the lugs are correct and I've also gotten into the habit of popping it in neutral at a stop light if I've had to slow down fast, reducing the possibility of material transfer
 

Vic Vega

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Anyone else battling brake shutter on their Toyota that just keeps coming back. Fourth set of front rotors will be put on this weekend. 3 past and 1 current Hondas in the family never had a problem. Sister's Rav4 and my dad's T100 truck has had brake shutter in the past as well due to warped rotors.

Rotors are cheap but it's a bit annoying when it keeps coming back.

They can ALL warp, any manufacturer, usually because they haven't been looked after (uneven torque specs between lug nuts or using an impact gun and over torquing lug nuts).

I'm not really a fan of Toyota simply because I don't like the appliance mentality of their design however, you cannot lump every make and model into a large "does X brand have problems with X?" question. There are just to many differences between models.
 

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Common problem with acura TSX. warped after roughly 3-4 years.
 

brblx

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they all warp ('warp'), to some degree. every make, every model. bigger, thicker rotors will resist it more, but those are typically accompanied by a heavier vehicle with bigger pads and very large and/or multiple caliper pistons.

older cars were harder to warp because of large, beefy rotors with integral hubs (taper bearing setups). usuable rotor area in relation to its weight is quite small, and weaker single piston setups with relatively small pads simply couldn't brake well- which means they couldn't build heat, which means they couldn't ruin rotors.

a modern car with a sealed ball bearing hub and rotors that simply slip over the lugs- those can warp. give me a car, and i'm pretty sure that i can find someone capable of murdering the brakes until the car starts to shake like a space shuttle on re-entry.

and frankly i don't think that the manufacturer matters much. i'm sure pricier rotors could indeed be purer, more precise castings, but of all the aftermarket parts i've seen cause trouble (spark plugs, ignition coils, fuel injectors, ect- and not just driveability parts; even simple stuff like brake pads and oil filters), i've never had to replace a rotor for the simple fact that it was aftermarket. plenty of OEM rotors are, in fact, shit, and can probably be surpassed by aftermarket ones. shit, i've spun the rotors on my mom's car (toyota) twice, both times with minimal warpage present. little wear at all, in fact- no lips, no grooving, no strange spots or discoloration, and this is between 25-30k+ brake jobs on the car of someone who is fucking hard on brakes. chinese rotors. iirc the low-end 40-50 buck ones from napa or carquest; so not as bad as duralast.

the absolute WORST thing you can do is buy cheap aftermarket pads. i think autozone's 19.99 (maybe even less) pads are made of old melted rotors and dirt.
 

Viperoni

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they all warp ('warp'), to some degree. every make, every model. bigger, thicker rotors will resist it more, but those are typically accompanied by a heavier vehicle with bigger pads and very large and/or multiple caliper pistons.

older cars were harder to warp because of large, beefy rotors with integral hubs (taper bearing setups). usuable rotor area in relation to its weight is quite small, and weaker single piston setups with relatively small pads simply couldn't brake well- which means they couldn't build heat, which means they couldn't ruin rotors.

a modern car with a sealed ball bearing hub and rotors that simply slip over the lugs- those can warp. give me a car, and i'm pretty sure that i can find someone capable of murdering the brakes until the car starts to shake like a space shuttle on re-entry.

and frankly i don't think that the manufacturer matters much. i'm sure pricier rotors could indeed be purer, more precise castings, but of all the aftermarket parts i've seen cause trouble (spark plugs, ignition coils, fuel injectors, ect- and not just driveability parts; even simple stuff like brake pads and oil filters), i've never had to replace a rotor for the simple fact that it was aftermarket. plenty of OEM rotors are, in fact, shit, and can probably be surpassed by aftermarket ones. shit, i've spun the rotors on my mom's car (toyota) twice, both times with minimal warpage present. little wear at all, in fact- no lips, no grooving, no strange spots or discoloration, and this is between 25-30k+ brake jobs on the car of someone who is fucking hard on brakes. chinese rotors. iirc the low-end 40-50 buck ones from napa or carquest; so not as bad as duralast.

the absolute WORST thing you can do is buy cheap aftermarket pads. i think autozone's 19.99 (maybe even less) pads are made of old melted rotors and dirt.

Or you could read the stoptech link I posted.