Are there (gated) communities in US where guns are not allowed?

[omega3]

I'm from Europe and find it very disturbing how everybody in the US is allowed to walk around with a gun. I'm not talking about mass shootings but I read that most people are killed by guns in domestic situations.

Therefore I was wondering if there are any neighbourhoods where gun posession is not allowed, so if you wanna live somewhere where no guns are allowed except for police like in Europe.

And what are the rules in certain gated communities? Do some of those have ristrictions on gun posession?

 

[brycejones]

I'm from Europe and find it very disturbing how everybody in the US is allowed to walk around with a gun. Therefore I was wondering if there are any neighbourhoods where gun posession is not allowed, so if you wanna live somewhere where no guns are allowed except for police like in Europe.

And what are the rules in richer, gated communities in LA and other cities? Do some of those have ristrictions on gun posession?

I haven't heard of anything. More likely you're going to find communities were gun ownership is required. Honestly wouldn't do you much good since you would need to leave it constantly to get things like gas and groceries.

 

[herm0016]

my suggestion is to move back to Europe where only the police and criminals have guns. and also, an HOA is not above the constitution.

ps. why does an inanimate object terrify you so? gosh, just this morning 12 people were gunned down on my street..... just kidding.

 

[Amused]

No. None that I know of.

And I'm afraid you have a pretty skewed, unrealistic view of the US. You rarely, if ever, see anyone "walking around with a gun."

 

[Fardringle]

I'm not from Europe and find it very disturbing how almost everybody in most European countries is allowed to walk around with a knife, since knives are involved in just as many murders as guns and FAR more violent (non death) crimes than guns, even in the U.S. where general gun ownership is allowed, and knives and blunt instruments are used exponentially more in Europe. Therefore I was wondering if there are any neighbourhoods where knife/blunt instrument possession is not allowed, so if you wanna live somewhere where the more commonly used weapons are not allowed except for police like in Europe.

(Just wanted to reword things slightly to show that physical, inanimate objects are not the problem...)

 

[brycejones]

my suggestion is to move back to Europe where only the police and criminals have guns. and also, an HOA is not above the constitution.

ps. why does an inanimate object terrify you so? gosh, just this morning 12 people were gunned down on my street..... just kidding.

Actually you are free to give up your rights in order to join an HOA. You have the freedom to enter into contracts that restrict your rights.

 

[IronWing]

No. None that I know of.

And I'm afraid you have a pretty skewed, unrealistic view of the US. You rarely, if ever, see anyone "walking around with a gun."

Welcome to Arizona!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Just move to NYC if it scares you that much. Neighbors killing neighbors randomly is a very negligible kind of homicide afaik, so unless you live in a bad neighborhood (in which case you're fucked no matter the gun prevalence) or if you have some kind of lawn dispute with an ex-Vietnam veteran or something, I wouldn't be so worried.

 

[omega3]

All I can say is that in Belgium where i'm from shootings are very rare. Yes there are criminals but they don't use excessive force that often like in the US where there seem to be killings on a daily basis.

So people in the US can't go live in a gated community which doesn't allow for guns except for the police?

 

[Amused]

All I can say is that in Belgium where i'm from shootings are very rare. Yes there are criminals but they don't use excessive force that often like in the US where there seem to be killings on a daily basis.

So people in the US can't go live in a gated community which doesn't allow for guns except for the police?

No, but that's the least of your worries. That's not the type of violence you see here. Think about any crime story from the US you've heard. Had any of them been a neighbor randomly killing another neighbor? Nope.

Like I said, you have a rather unrealistic and irrational view of the US. This is called "media driven fear."

The US is a big place with hundreds of millions here. You could hear in the media of murders everyday and never see one, nor know anyone involved in one.

 

[Fardringle]

Truthfully, shootings like the ones you hear about in the news are actually quite rare. The news media just tend to blow them up into huge "events" and talk about them endlessly in an effort to get ratings.

No, and why would you want to? If your intent is to 'get away from guns' then you could never leave your immediate neighborhood...

 

[cytg111]

I'm not from Europe and find it very disturbing how almost everybody in most European countries is allowed to walk around with a knife, since knives are involved in just as many murders as guns and FAR more violent (non death) crimes than guns, even in the U.S. where general gun ownership is allowed, and knives and blunt instruments are used exponentially more in Europe. Therefore I was wondering if there are any neighbourhoods where knife/blunt instrument possession is not allowed, so if you wanna live somewhere where the more commonly used weapons are not allowed except for police like in Europe.

(Just wanted to reword things slightly to show that physical, inanimate objects are not the problem...)

Yup, knifes be illegal too.
Next.
.
(it does raise interresting questions as to how are you gonna transport your new set of kitchen knifes home from the shop.. In principle you cant)

 

[ElFenix]

if you can have gated communities that disallow lawyers i don't see why you couldn't have a community that disallows guns. gun ownership isn't considered a suspect classification.

 

[Crumpet]

I'm not from Europe and find it very disturbing how almost everybody in most European countries is allowed to walk around with a knife, since knives are involved in just as many murders as guns and FAR more violent (non death) crimes than guns, even in the U.S. where general gun ownership is allowed, and knives and blunt instruments are used exponentially more in Europe. Therefore I was wondering if there are any neighbourhoods where knife/blunt instrument possession is not allowed, so if you wanna live somewhere where the more commonly used weapons are not allowed except for police like in Europe.

(Just wanted to reword things slightly to show that physical, inanimate objects are not the problem...)

Knives don't tend to kill you from the other side of the street

 

[FIVR]

OP you are barking up the wrong tree if you are asking for Americans to tell other Americans not to use or own guns. The US has an estimated 1.4 guns per person if you include the US mil weapons, which is the highest int he world by a margin of ~40% . If you take away all the mil guns we are just about equal to countries like Yemen and Iraq where every family owns a gun because there are terrorists all over the place. Americans are of the feeling that "more guns = safer" no matter how many children die. If their own child dies, they will complain... but they will be drowned out by all the gun nuts. And the US is comprised of like 30% gun nuts, at least.

Best to stay out of the US and other 3rd world s-holes and stick to Europe if you want sane gun regulation.

 

[omega3]

I'm not so much talking about the mass shootings. Isn't it so most people are killed by guns in domestic situations, even by accident.

Still find it strange that no communities in the US have decided to make rules prohibiting guns.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

All I can say is that in Belgium where i'm from shootings are very rare. Yes there are criminals but they don't use excessive force that often like in the US where there seem to be killings on a daily basis.

So people in the US can't go live in a gated community which doesn't allow for guns except for the police?

Move to New Hampshire. The gun homicide rate is only a few times higher than in Belgium, and the overall homicide rate is actually lower.

 

[FIVR]

They probably have done so, and those rules were struck down by state or federal laws prohibiting limitations on 2nd amendment rights. There are cities where they don't sell guns, and where you aren't allowed to transport them on you loaded... but you cannot legally restrict ownership based on current supreme court rules which basically state that all americans have the right to be armed with deadly weapons at all times no matter how dangerous it may be to everyone around them.

I'm not so much talking about the mass shootings. Isn't it so most people are killed by guns in domestic situations, even by accident.

Still find it strange that no communities in the US have decided to make rules prohibiting guns.

 

[OverVolt]

If someone wanted to kill you in Europe they could.

I don't really see the big distinction a gun plays.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I'm not so much talking about the mass shootings. Isn't it so most people are killed by guns in domestic situations, even by accident.

Still find it strange that no communities in the US have decided to make rules prohibiting guns.

Accidental gun deaths are the smallest percentage of gun deaths. Suicides make up roughly two thirds, homicides roughly the other third, with the crumbs going to accidents. Accidental death by neighbor would be even more of a freak occurrence, something like the neighbor accidentally shooting his gun causing the bullet to go through his walls, your walls, and then you. That kind of thing happens maybe a few times a year in the entire country. Domestic situations specifically means things like men killing their wives/girlfriends, family dispute turning violent, etc.

Knives don't tend to kill you from the other side of the street

Neither do most criminals. If you're getting mugged and shot, it's going to be close to point blank. If a housemate hates your guts, he's shooting you within a confined room, not sniping you as you drive home from work.

 

[Fardringle]

I'm not so much talking about the mass shootings. Isn't it so most people are killed by guns in domestic situations, even by accident.

Still find it strange that no communities in the US have decided to make rules prohibiting guns.

Guns as a cause of death (including both intentional and accidental death) isn't even in the top 50 causes of death overall in the U.S. Despite what some people want you to believe, it's really not a significant problem in most places. There are a few exceptions in cities with extremely high crime rates and even there it's not as bad as sensationalist media reports make it appear. I have lived in the U.S. all of my nearly 50 years and I don't know anyone that has ever been shot by a gun outside of police and military service. I do know many, many people that own and have shot guns, however; for sport, hunting, target practice, etc.

 

[fskimospy]

my suggestion is to move back to Europe where only the police and criminals have guns. and also, an HOA is not above the constitution.

ps. why does an inanimate object terrify you so? gosh, just this morning 12 people were gunned down on my street..... just kidding.

An HOA is not subject to the constitution. They could absolutely ban guns if they wanted to.

 

[Amused]

An HOA is not subject to the constitution. They could absolutely ban guns if they wanted to.

Yes, and no. An HOA cannot place restrictions on race, sex, religion, national origin, marital status or children. So there's that.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Is there a place in Europe that's free of Europeans?

 

[Amused]

Found your answer:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/real-estate/news/fl-gary-singer-col-11142016-20161108-story.html

Q: Some of the board members in our community are considering a rule that no firearms can be kept anywhere on the grounds, including in our own homes. Can they do this? — Alan

A: No. This proposed rule is far overstepping the board's authority and would be unenforceable. Considering the close living arrangements and thin walls in a condominium, I can understand why the board may be concerned. However, this is not an area that a condo association should be addressing. The law is well-established that people are allowed to keep a firearm in their homes.

The right to keep a gun in your home for self-defense is seen by the Supreme Court as a fundamental right. Similarly, your association can't put any restrictions on the firearm, such as requiring it to be kept unloaded.

"This makes it impossible for citizens to use them for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional," Justice Antonin Scalia said in 2008.

For the same reason, the type of weapon can't be restricted to only rifles, for example. If the owner may otherwise legally own a firearm, the association can't place additional restrictions on keeping it in the home.

The issue of carrying guns in the common areas of the community is a little more complicated. Still, there is a strong preference against allowing the association to make restrictions. Under state law, there are certain places where people who can otherwise legally carry firearms are restricted, such as schools and courthouses. There also are restrictions on how a gun may be carried in public, such as making sure the gun is out of view. All of the same restrictions will apply in condo common areas even though the unit owner technically owns a small portion of the common areas of the community. These areas are not considered part of the person's home.

If your community has a good reason for a restriction on concealed carry in a common area, it needs to consult with an attorney to make sure that it is not opening itself to an expensive and difficult lawsuit.