are there different "classes" of asian?

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SunSamurai

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OP making a fool of himself again. Your gf must be proud in between bouts of you calling her fat.
 

nerp

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"Asians" haha. Yeah. That describes about five or six billion people, dude. Do your homework.
 

FuzzyDunlop

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Asian you say?
Define Asian
asia-map.gif


from here we have:
Russian
Japanese
Chinese
Korean
Vietnamese/Cambodian/Laosian/Thia
Malaysian
Indonesian
Indian
Afghani
Kazak
on and on and on

Asian?
 

DaWhim

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No, Chinese and Koreans are descendants of Mongolians.

I am not sure where you pull this one from. The place where mongolians come from was used to occupied by the Huns. During Han dynasty, the chinese kicked their asses all the way to the west after a few centuries getting invaded by them and appeased them. The indirect consequence for the Huns moving westward was the fell of Roman Empire.

the chinese has been there way before the appearance of mongolians.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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At one point in history, the Chinese were top dog. Korea was a vassal kingdom to them and the Japanese were just crazy island people. Once the Europeans came, the Japanese adopted their practices, industrialized and started imperializing the rest of Asia. They were at the top right up to WWII. Once they got A-bombed and forced to let go of their stronghold in Asia, they still were able to recover the fastest economically and maintained their top dog status. It didn't hurt that they had open trade and communication with the US (they were forbidden from having a national army) while the rest of Asia was ignored until the threat of Communism came to a head.

Since then, Korea(South) has caught up economically to Japan so they became 1 and 2 respectively while the rest remained in the third world, including China.

When China reaquired Hong Kong from the British, they got a big boost economically and has slowly crept out of the third world.

Those are you big 3 right there.

Each one will point to something that will claim superiority over the other so its all relative after that.
 

effowe

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Seeing as how the total world population 6.5 billion I highly doubt the world is 92% Chinese or Indian.

According to wiki, the Population of Asia as a whole is 3,879,000,000, and the World Population is currently at 6,811,400,000. This puts Asia at over half of the worlds Population, but not near 6 billion.
 
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I think OP has it pretty down. I come from a high school that's 2/3 Asian. Mostly Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean. The Vietnamese, Filipino population is very tiny here. Only 1 black kid in the whole high school.

We were the nerd school. Top public school in the Bay Area. It's very different. Most parents came to the US not just for a better life but came for grad school. Many of them work in the tech industry, and household incomes are 200k+ We study our asses off and feed the Ivy leagues and top tiered public UC systems (i.e. Cal and UCLA).

I go 20 min away to my gf's neighborhood and it's all Vietnamese. The crowd is 100x different. People came to the US to escape from the war. Many lack education and work blue collar jobs. Their kids are using this as their first opportunity to do well for their family. Compare that to me and my friends. The kids are made sure we don't screw up because our parents all came from the top schools overseas and we're meant to not screw up their awesome legacy.

Also it's important to break down Chinese and Taiwanese. Before 2000, many of the smart Chinese people you saw here were either from Hong Kong or Taiwan. Since then the mainland population coming to the US is growing. If you drive down the Chinese infested cities like Rowland Heights, Diamond Bar, they're mostly Taiwanese/Cantonese. This is changing though as China grows in wealth.

Anyway, so my gf comes from a school primarily Vietnamese and Filipino. Very different. Ghetto. Drugs, fights all the time. When our school makes the news it's about people hacking into the school database to change grades. When her school makes the news its about some student getting shot by a gang at a local park. Yeah. Different world.

I've heard from a few Chinese/ Japanese that Koreans were considered to be at the bottom of the pile - largely stereotyped to be dumb uneducated farmers up until very recently. Even though they may now somewhat respect their socioeconomic progress, I think many of them still believe Koreans to be inferior.

Maybe in Asia, but Korea has developed very well in the past two three decades. The ones in the US that I know come from families where their moms wear the pants in the marriage. They beat their kids to study harder, etc etc. Yeah. They're hardcore. Oh and Christian too.

Going to college transformed me. While college was still 50%+ Asian, there were a lot of underprivileged kids. I did Engineering, so I was still with the nerdy Chinese/Japanese/Korean kids I grew up with at home, but there's a lot more "ghetto" types around the school. There's a lot more kids who just have more freedom rather than the ones like me who have parents breathing down their necks going "You're going to med school/biz school/pharm school/engineering phd and get a 4.0 GPA" and there's a difference. The ones who drift around are the ones who get out of school learning nothing, having taken idiotic classes. Most of my friends went straight to grad/professional school or landed a nice job at a Fortune 500 company. The business/econ ones went straight into I-Banking or accounting, and I know several of them at the Big 4.

Unfortunately some of the way Asian kids are raised with their parents nagging them left and right can produce socially awkward kids (READ: SKIM MILK and FBB). I guess it woudl work in Asia, but when you have a kid who's told to study their asses off and then integrate into the American culture, they get confused, and they get kinda lost.
 
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MJinZ

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I think OP has it pretty down. I come from a high school that's 2/3 Asian. Mostly Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean. The Vietnamese, Filipino population is very tiny here. Only 1 black kid in the whole high school.

We were the nerd school. Top public school in the Bay Area. It's very different. Most parents came to the US not just for a better life but came for grad school. Many of them work in the tech industry, and household incomes are 200k+ We study our asses off and feed the Ivy leagues and top tiered public UC systems (i.e. Cal and UCLA).

I go 20 min away to my gf's neighborhood and it's all Vietnamese. The crowd is 100x different. People came to the US to escape from the war. Many lack education and work blue collar jobs. Their kids are using this as their first opportunity to do well for their family. Compare that to me and my friends. The kids are made sure we don't screw up because our parents all came from the top schools overseas and we're meant to not screw up their awesome legacy.

Also it's important to break down Chinese and Taiwanese. Before 2000, many of the smart Chinese people you saw here were either from Hong Kong or Taiwan. Since then the mainland population coming to the US is growing. If you drive down the Chinese infested cities like Rowland Heights, Diamond Bar, they're mostly Taiwanese/Cantonese. This is changing though as China grows in wealth.

Anyway, so my gf comes from a school primarily Vietnamese and Filipino. Very different. Ghetto. Drugs, fights all the time. When our school makes the news it's about people hacking into the school database to change grades. When her school makes the news its about some student getting shot by a gang at a local park. Yeah. Different world.



Maybe in Asia, but Korea has developed very well in the past two three decades. The ones in the US that I know come from families where their moms wear the pants in the marriage. They beat their kids to study harder, etc etc. Yeah. They're hardcore. Oh and Christian too.

Going to college transformed me. While college was still 50%+ Asian, there were a lot of underprivileged kids. I did Engineering, so I was still with the nerdy Chinese/Japanese/Korean kids I grew up with at home, but there's a lot more "ghetto" types around the school. There's a lot more kids who just have more freedom rather than the ones like me who have parents breathing down their necks going "You're going to med school/biz school/pharm school/engineering phd and get a 4.0 GPA" and there's a difference. The ones who drift around are the ones who get out of school learning nothing, having taken idiotic classes. Most of my friends went straight to grad/professional school or landed a nice job at a Fortune 500 company. The business/econ ones went straight into I-Banking or accounting, and I know several of them at the Big 4.

Unfortunately some of the way Asian kids are raised with their parents nagging them left and right can produce socially awkward kids (READ: SKIM MILK and FBB). I guess it woudl work in Asia, but when you have a kid who's told to study their asses off and then integrate into the American culture, they get confused, and they get kinda lost.

Real Skim Milk? Female Body Builders? Your Acronyms are too nerdy for me to comprehend.
 

Terzo

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Real Skim Milk? Female Body Builders? Your Acronyms are too nerdy for me to comprehend.
I think OP has it pretty down. I come from a high school that's 2/3 Asian. Mostly Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean. The Vietnamese, Filipino population is very tiny here. Only 1 black kid in the whole high school.

We were the nerd school. Top public school in the Bay Area. It's very different. Most parents came to the US not just for a better life but came for grad school. Many of them work in the tech industry, and household incomes are 200k+ We study our asses off and feed the Ivy leagues and top tiered public UC systems (i.e. Cal and UCLA).

I go 20 min away to my gf's neighborhood and it's all Vietnamese. The crowd is 100x different. People came to the US to escape from the war. Many lack education and work blue collar jobs. Their kids are using this as their first opportunity to do well for their family. Compare that to me and my friends. The kids are made sure we don't screw up because our parents all came from the top schools overseas and we're meant to not screw up their awesome legacy.

Also it's important to break down Chinese and Taiwanese. Before 2000, many of the smart Chinese people you saw here were either from Hong Kong or Taiwan. Since then the mainland population coming to the US is growing. If you drive down the Chinese infested cities like Rowland Heights, Diamond Bar, they're mostly Taiwanese/Cantonese. This is changing though as China grows in wealth.

Anyway, so my gf comes from a school primarily Vietnamese and Filipino. Very different. Ghetto. Drugs, fights all the time. When our school makes the news it's about people hacking into the school database to change grades. When her school makes the news its about some student getting shot by a gang at a local park. Yeah. Different world.



Maybe in Asia, but Korea has developed very well in the past two three decades. The ones in the US that I know come from families where their moms wear the pants in the marriage. They beat their kids to study harder, etc etc. Yeah. They're hardcore. Oh and Christian too.

Going to college transformed me. While college was still 50%+ Asian, there were a lot of underprivileged kids. I did Engineering, so I was still with the nerdy Chinese/Japanese/Korean kids I grew up with at home, but there's a lot more "ghetto" types around the school. There's a lot more kids who just have more freedom rather than the ones like me who have parents breathing down their necks going "You're going to med school/biz school/pharm school/engineering phd and get a 4.0 GPA" and there's a difference. The ones who drift around are the ones who get out of school learning nothing, having taken idiotic classes. Most of my friends went straight to grad/professional school or landed a nice job at a Fortune 500 company. The business/econ ones went straight into I-Banking or accounting, and I know several of them at the Big 4.

Unfortunately some of the way Asian kids are raised with their parents nagging them left and right can produce socially awkward kids (READ: SKIM MILK and FBB). I guess it woudl work in Asia, but when you have a kid who's told to study their asses off and then integrate into the American culture, they get confused, and they get kinda lost.

I think it's supposed to say "Read: SKIM MILK and FBB". Not sure why it inserted a emoticon.
Skim Milk and FBB (Fuzzybunnybaby or something like that) are two asian posters with a storied past of being laughed at/pitied by the atot population. I think it generally is with regards to dating, but I haven't really read the threads; this is the kind of stuff you just pick up after a while, greenhorn.
If you care to know more, I'm sure simply searching either of their names will lead to a library of posts to peruse.
 

FleshLight

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T1: Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Macau
T2: China, Thailand
T3: Everyone Else

Once you get to America, the whole "caste" system or whatever dissolves. But rich Asians, Taiwanese in particular, moving to America still think the Asian status quo still exists.
 

Lonyo

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T1: Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Macau
T2: China, Thailand
T3: Everyone Else

Once you get to America, the whole "caste" system or whatever dissolves. But rich Asians, Taiwanese in particular, moving to America still think the Asian status quo still exists.

Except HK is divided into tiers as well :p
 

zinfamous

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Check the population of India and China. That's a start.

Seeing as how the total world population 6.5 billion I highly doubt the world is 92% Chinese or Indian.

According to wiki, the Population of Asia as a whole is 3,879,000,000, and the World Population is currently at 6,811,400,000. This puts Asia at over half of the worlds Population, but not near 6 billion.

yeah, that was what I was inferring. And also that you should start checking first, not I. :p

China is ~1.2 billion with India recently surpassing at 1.5 billion, iirc. It seemed immediately preposterous to me, thinking that there were 5 or 6 billion Asians on this planet, especially knowing that the world population was hovering around 6.5 billion.
 

aigomorla

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dude classes between asians?

Theres even sub classes inside each asian class.

For example..

If you call my tiwanese friend chinese... he will straight up take offense to it.

Asians are very stereotypical, its in our blood, and a majority of us are also raciest.
It took me a while to ignore skin color in elementry and jr. high.

Now some of my closest friends are white, black, Hispanic.

I've heard from a few Chinese/ Japanese that Koreans were considered to be at the bottom of the pile - largely stereotyped to be dumb uneducated farmers up until very recently. Even though they may now somewhat respect their socioeconomic progress, I think many of them still believe Koreans to be inferior.

ROFL the good ol chinese vs the rest of the asian market stereotype.

Whenever i hear this i say:

Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai, Samsung, LG, Sony...

Wanna name Chinese which rank = to those companies i listed above?

1. Whose country was/is communist?
2. Whose country moto was government owns everything people own nothing?
3. Whose country considers there bulk population of citizens as livestock and not real people?
4. Which asian country has more then 3 dialects for the SAME SPOKEN language, where 1 side of the country can not talk to the other side?

Not Japan or Korea...

Lastly when you open that expensive electronic device, where do u hope its made from?

The last place i hope for is China... and OMFG everything is made in China... why?
Because of number 3 i listed above.
 
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Heller

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while i might be young and naive i do feel a bit smarter just reading all the info posted in this thread. I'm very fascinated by the "Asian" culture and find it intriguing.
 

zinfamous

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while i might be young and naive i do feel a bit smarter just reading all the info posted in this thread. I'm very fascinated by the "Asian" culture and find it intriguing.

With "Asian culture," are you referring to the vending machines that dispense used girls underwear?

:hmm:
 

Heller

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With "Asian culture," are you referring to the vending machines that dispense used girls underwear?

:hmm:

that's just some of it, but the ghetto Asian and whatnot is fascinating. I had no idea there were tiers of Asians and different classes.