Are there any real risks in cigars?

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miri

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You get a ton of nicotine from cigars with no inhaling. The nicotine is absorbed through your saliva. Just think of it as a gigantic unfiltered cig.
 

anxi80

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Originally posted by: Enfer Singe
smoke black and milds, those actually make you live longer.....or so I am hoping
thats what i keep telling myself. ;)
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: shortylickens
A lot less than cigarettes.
Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes. The paper is bad too.
Inhaling smoke from a burning tobacco leaf really isnt THAT horrible.
The indians did it for a long time.

For reference, cloves are really bad too.




WOW!

Who are you, C Everett KOOK? :laugh:


<<<"Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes">>> :roll:


Yeah...it's called TOBACCO! :shocked:


Good God man, where do you get your information?

Thanks for the public Dis-service announcement.

Dude, calm down. He has a legitimate point. Yes, smoking ANYTHING, whether it is tobacco, or marijuana, or alfafa, is unhealthy. But the majority of the toxins in cigarettes are from the additives. Smoking pure tobacco is a lot safer than smoking cigarettes, even if it is still unsafe.




Sorry, you are incorrect.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: shortylickens
A lot less than cigarettes.
Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes. The paper is bad too.
Inhaling smoke from a burning tobacco leaf really isnt THAT horrible.
The indians did it for a long time.

For reference, cloves are really bad too.

BS. Cigar smoke has the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke


WOW!

Who are you, C Everett KOOK? :laugh:


<<<"Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes">>> :roll:


Yeah...it's called TOBACCO! :shocked:


Good God man, where do you get your information?

Thanks for the public Dis-service announcement.



Dude, calm down. He has a legitimate point. Yes, smoking ANYTHING, whether it is tobacco, or marijuana, or alfafa, is unhealthy. But the majority of the toxins in cigarettes are from the additives. Smoking pure tobacco is a lot safer than smoking cigarettes, even if it is still unsafe.

BS. Cigar smoke has the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke.

You are just less likely to get lung cancer and heart disease not inhaling. Still leaves mouth and throat



http://www.smokinglungs.com/cigar.htm


 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: shortylickens
A lot less than cigarettes.
Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes. The paper is bad too.
Inhaling smoke from a burning tobacco leaf really isnt THAT horrible.
The indians did it for a long time.

For reference, cloves are really bad too.

BS. Cigar smoke has the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke


WOW!

Who are you, C Everett KOOK? :laugh:


<<<"Most of the bad sh1t associated with smoking comes from the crap they put into cigarettes">>> :roll:


Yeah...it's called TOBACCO! :shocked:


Good God man, where do you get your information?

Thanks for the public Dis-service announcement.



Dude, calm down. He has a legitimate point. Yes, smoking ANYTHING, whether it is tobacco, or marijuana, or alfafa, is unhealthy. But the majority of the toxins in cigarettes are from the additives. Smoking pure tobacco is a lot safer than smoking cigarettes, even if it is still unsafe.

BS. Cigar smoke has the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke.

You are just less likely to get lung cancer not inhaling. Still leaves mouth and throat




Some folks see the list of compounds found in tobacco smoke and assume these are from "additives".

While it is true that some chemicals can be added at the factory, ALL of the following occur naturally.

Tar contains over 4,000 chemicals, 37 of which are known to cause cancer!
Other chemicals found in tobacco smoke and common items they can be found in include:
acetone
(finger nail polish
remover)
cadmium
(used in batteries) hexamine
(barbecue lighter)
acetic acid
(vinegar)

carbon monoxide
(car exhaust)
hydrogen cyanide (poison)
ammonia
(toilet cleaner)

carbon monoxide
(car exhaust) methane
(sewer gas)
arsenic
(poison)

DDT/Dieldrin
(used to kill bugs) methanol
(rocket fluid)
butane
(lighter fluid)

ethanol
(alcohol) napthalene
(mothballs)
nicotine
(insecticide)
stearic acid
(candle wax)
toluene
(industrial solvent)


Again, these are products of combustion of tobacco, NOT additives.

 

BurnItDwn

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If you are not carefull you could start a fire, and then Smokey the bear would hunt you down.

If you smoke Cigars indoors you could cause the smoke alarm to go off, thus annoying you, also, it makes your place stink.

Also, if you are smoking a cigar when you are driving, your car will smell like cigars.

If you try to bring Cuban cigars inside the country you run some risks of loosing them. (assuming that you are in the USA)



Ohh, one final warning. IMO, the biggest risk; Cigar cutters are big enough to put fingers in. Be carefull!
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Sorry, you are incorrect.

So you're saying that if I took a single leaf of tobacco and smoked it, it would be just as bad as if I smoked a cigarette, complete with tar, chemicals and all that? Are you calling my high school health teacher a liar??!?!?! :p
 

Jzero

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I don't know about the health factors, but I definitely prefer to smoke actual TOBACCO as opposed to whatever foul concotion they are using in mass market cigarettes.
 

CorCentral

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The risks are diff. for each person. You might bite the dust early or you may live to 100 like George Burns did. He smoked cigars like they were going out of style most of his life. Granted, he stopped smoking them real late in his life but everytime you saw him, he had one in his hand for show ;)

 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Sorry, you are incorrect.

So you're saying that if I took a single leaf of tobacco and smoked it, it would be just as bad as if I smoked a cigarette, complete with tar, chemicals and all that? Are you calling my high school health teacher a liar??!?!?! :p

Do you have a list of the "chemicals and all that" which are in cigarettes but NOT in cigars?


 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: Shawn
what's the point of smoking if you're not gonna inhale it?

You CAN'T inhale cigar smoke - it's too strong. You just draw it a little way into your throat and blow it back out. It's for the taste and the slight nicotine buzz you get from absorbing it through the mouth. It's nice if you do it right. If you try to smoke a cigar like you'd smoke a cigarette you'll get sick as hell.
 

CorCentral

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Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: Shawn
what's the point of smoking if you're not gonna inhale it?

You CAN'T inhale cigar smoke - it's too strong. You just draw it a little way into your throat and blow it back out. It's for the taste and the slight nicotine buzz you get from absorbing it through the mouth. It's nice if you do it right. If you try to smoke a cigar like you'd smoke a cigarette you'll get sick as hell.


I learned this the hard way :disgust:

I found one of those thinner type Hava-tampa's or whatever it was. Yep, I inhaled and got sick as hell. Hey, I was only 15. **LOL**
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Sorry, you are incorrect.

So you're saying that if I took a single leaf of tobacco and smoked it, it would be just as bad as if I smoked a cigarette, complete with tar, chemicals and all that? Are you calling my high school health teacher a liar??!?!?! :p

Do you have a list of the "chemicals and all that" which are in cigarettes but NOT in cigars?

No, as a matter of fact I don't, and if you'll show me that I am incorrect I will completely retract my original statement and concede defeat. I'm just repeating what I heard in health class. Maybe she was just using scare tactics?
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Sorry, you are incorrect.

So you're saying that if I took a single leaf of tobacco and smoked it, it would be just as bad as if I smoked a cigarette, complete with tar, chemicals and all that? Are you calling my high school health teacher a liar??!?!?! :p

Do you have a list of the "chemicals and all that" which are in cigarettes but NOT in cigars?

No, as a matter of fact I don't, and if you'll show me that I am incorrect I will completely retract my original statement and concede defeat. I'm just repeating what I heard in health class. Maybe she was just using scare tactics?

Here's a list. Text


My point is that pipes, cigars and chewing tobacco are all known carcinogens. Cigarettes are consumed at a much higher level (both in number of users and probably in useage per person) so the association is more apparent to us. There's also the issue of how they're consumed, as cigarette smoking has the added penalty of exposing the lungs in addition to mouth/throat/esophagus.

Anyway, I'm not prepared to say if cigars or cigarettes are more carcinogenic one way or another, even though I do have some background. It bothers me a bit when peopel say they are certain about such things without providing a rationale or even an argument.

I'm certain that both cigars and cigarettes are carcinogens. I'm fairly confident that differences in their carcinogenic potential is probably more of a product of level and method of exposure to the tobacco born carcinogens, rather than whatever is added by tobacco companies solely to cigarettes - many of the suspected carcinogens are things like insecticides and fertilizer, none of which should be exclusive to cigarettes. There's a brand or two of cigarettes out now that claim to have no additives. I'm willing to bet they're about as carcinogenic as any other brand, when abused properly. Text

Anyway, I'll smoke a cigar now and again, there's no such thing as risk-free behavior in any case.
 

CRXican

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I'm no doctor but once a week doesn't seem too excessive. And is it really EVERY single week?

My friends and I smoke Hookah once a week, I haven't noticed any negative effects yet, we've been doing it for quite some time.
 

myusername

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: feralkid
Sorry, you are incorrect.

So you're saying that if I took a single leaf of tobacco and smoked it, it would be just as bad as if I smoked a cigarette, complete with tar, chemicals and all that? Are you calling my high school health teacher a liar??!?!?! :p

Do you have a list of the "chemicals and all that" which are in cigarettes but NOT in cigars?

Cigarettes don't usually have "additives" in the way you would think from the media hype. The nicotine, tar, flavor, etc. are manipulated during processing, mostly through environmental factors (i.e. heat, moisture, pressure). I have no doubt that these various processing methods also affect the content of the other smoke components, but it is very unlikely that you would be able to obtain a copy of that information :)

"Additive" that should be of concern to smokers is the pesticide that the crop is fumigated with for storage. The same would apply to mass market "hav-a-tampa" type cigars, I expect, but without knowing for certain, I would hazard that premium cigar tobacco is treated in a more caring fashion.
 

niwi7

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ive inhaled cigar smoke...it didn't get me sick but it did give a crazy buzz

idk maybe i was doing sometihng wrong if u claim u <i>can't</i> inhale it lol
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: niwi7
ive inhaled cigar smoke...it didn't get me sick but it did give a crazy buzz

idk maybe i was doing sometihng wrong if u claim u <i>can't</i> inhale it lol

proof
 

niwi7

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proof? lol idk how u want proof
but it was a strawberry philly
smoked it
inhaled it
and felt good, not bad

idk
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: niwi7
proof? lol idk how u want proof
but it was a strawberry philly
smoked it
inhaled it
and felt good, not bad

idk

no, your post is proof that cigars do have harmful effects.Mainly on the language centers of the brain.
 

hevnsnt

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As a former SMOKER,

I dont understand the point of smoking a cigar and not inhaling.. I woulnt inhale every time, but a little here and there..
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
As a former SMOKER,

I dont understand the point of smoking a cigar and not inhaling.. I woulnt inhale every time, but a little here and there..

I am and do the same (every now and then). It's not really a big deal, but I just like having a cigar in my mouth, lit or not.