Are there any other Obama supporters/voters scared like me

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I've followed 538, I'm glued to RCP, and clearly Senator Obama is likely to be the next president, but I have a really sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that something is going to happen, whether it's accidental (voting machine malfunction), intentional (see Florida 2000), or just white people sure they want Obama, go into the booth and say to themselves, I don't feel comfortable giving a black man the vote (Bradley effect).

To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years, but I am truly scared of what will happen if he loses. I hope no riots start, or any of that crap, it's just the idea of having another religous nutwad in the Whitehouse, McCain doesn't scare me too much, I would have probably voted for him if he ran in 2000, but after the smearing dumbya and rove did to him, he didn't have a chance, and post election, and fast forward 8 years, the maverick that was, is no more.

I am scared of compassionate conservatism of the dumbya years continuing for another 4, I am scared that the war in Iraq will have no end date, I am scared that a Presidential candidate McCain sang
"bomb, bomb, bomb,
bomb bomb Iran."
To me that was akin to dumbya looking under tables while 'joking' about wmd's. Meanwhile US soldiers are putting their lives on the line for that joke.
In all probability, Senator Obama from the Great State of Illinois (my home state )
will be elected president, I just hope it's by an indisputable size, well over 5% and well over 50 EV's.
I'm not trying to chicken little here, I am just another citizen, deeply scared that a very flawed system could prevent a very talented, intelligent man from becoming president of the US, again.

And please, try not to troll, I'll do the same.

Dear Friend, Do not worry. Obama is going to win. The feeling you have everybody has. It's that just my luck thingi, that nothing really good can happen to you. It comes from the fact that you hate yourself and don't know it and feel you deserve nothing good. Well the feeling is a lie. You are perfectly OK. You don't have to knock on wood. Relax and be happy.

Something bad can always happen. It has nothing to do with you. You were never guilty of anything. And if something bad does happen it doesn't touch your inner perfection. You always were and always will be OK. Relax and be happy. Trust in the good. There is only love.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

 

[Thump553]

Forutnatlely PJ, you do not set the criteria for voting in the USA.

To answer your questions:

Better than Eisenhower? I'll pass, I was more interested in Davey Crocket and fingerpainting then.

Better than Kennedy? Kennedy was good, but too short. Two huge blunders, Bay of Pigs and Vietnam.

Better than Reagan? My dog would have been a better President than Reagan.

Better than Clinton? Will be less divisive, that's for sure. If he fix the country back up after this Bush as Bill Clinton did after Reagan/Bush 1, Obama will be an excellent president.

 

[ProfJohn]

Thump, he said better CHOICE.

Now tell me again why Obama is a better CHOICE than any of the four I listed. What does Obama have that makes him better than them?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

As they say in the investment business, past performance does not predict future results. After all, looking at McCain's rather admirable record, who would have predicted he'd turn into yet another Bush style Republican when he decided he wanted to be President? He has a history of making decisions for the right reason rather than cheap political gain, yet he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. We're not voting on Time Magazine's Senator of the Year Award, we're voting for the next President. And while past acts should be taken into account, you'd be a fool to make that the only factor in your decision.

James Buchanan was one of the most experienced politicians going into his Presidency, and he was terrible at his job. Lincoln was pretty inexperienced at a national level (no executive experience, not even in the Senate at all), and he was one of the greatest Presidents. And those aren't outliers, if experience is a predictor, it's a bad one.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: loki8481
"price will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do youll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders."

the earth will keep turning no matter who wins on Tuesday, progress will keep chugging along, and whether America has to suffer through four more years of republican rule or four years of a democratic supermajority, the sun will rise on Wednesday and we'll do fine as a country.

But above all, wear sunscreen.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

johnny, go play in traffic, I asked very politely not to troll or be an asshole, I am so sorry those are so ingrained into your psyche that it's impossible to not be a hack.

Better than Kennedy? In office too short of time to tell, but he reminds me alot of Kennedy and the power he has to charge up an audience.
Better than reagan? My wife just cleaned up something in the litterbox that was better than him (your messiah)

And I shouldn't get to vote because I feel that way? Seriously johnny, go have a circle jerk with zendari, I'm really surprised you two aren't conjoined twins.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

johnny, go play in traffic, I asked very politely not to troll or be an asshole, I am so sorry those are so ingrained into your psyche that it's impossible to not be a hack.

Better than Kennedy? In office too short of time to tell, but he reminds me alot of Kennedy and the power he has to charge up an audience.
Better than reagan? My wife just cleaned up something in the litterbox that was better than him (your messiah)

And I shouldn't get to vote because I feel that way? Seriously johnny, go have a circle jerk with zendari, I'm really surprised you two aren't conjoined twins.

Don't get your panties in a bunch because someone disagreed with you. He questioned your judgment and so do I.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

johnny, go play in traffic, I asked very politely not to troll or be an asshole, I am so sorry those are so ingrained into your psyche that it's impossible to not be a hack.

Better than Kennedy? In office too short of time to tell, but he reminds me alot of Kennedy and the power he has to charge up an audience.
Better than reagan? My wife just cleaned up something in the litterbox that was better than him (your messiah)

And I shouldn't get to vote because I feel that way? Seriously johnny, go have a circle jerk with zendari, I'm really surprised you two aren't conjoined twins.

Don't get your panties in a bunch because someone disagreed with you. He questioned your judgment and so do I.

But you do it with respect, whereas he was telling me I don't deserve to vote. Panties are totally unbunched, just fine, just worried about what my come about on Tuesday, like most Obama voters.

 

[SecPro]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Thump, he said better CHOICE.

Now tell me again why Obama is a better CHOICE than any of the four I listed. What does Obama have that makes him better than them?

He has the best tasting kool-aid obviously. Anyone here who hasn't drank the kool-aid, who hasn't already bought this Demotardic administrations version of a blue dress is clearly, stupid, a bigot, a troll or all of the above.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

I don't think the debates were completely scripted and while McCain was seething, Obama was calm and cool, and answering questions asked of him. I realize that most/all were prepared answers but they did go off script occasionally, and to me, Senator Obama looked presidential, whereas Senator McCain looked angry, confused and flustered.
In other words, he (Obama) looked presidential.
And for the last time, it's not Kool-aid, it's Flavor-Aid, if you are trying to reference the Jonestown mass suicide issue, I'm sure kool-aid being the more recognized name has a better ring to it, but for the record it was grape flavored Flavor-aid.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I get a knot in my stomach thinking about If Obama wins and the democrats have a super majority in congress. This would be the death blow to this country. Nothing but bad can come from either party have a fillerbuster proof majority in congress.

But to be honest I do not feel good with either candidate winning.

Still better than the possibility of Palin as President.

I concur.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: loki8481
"price will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old, and when you do youll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders."

the earth will keep turning no matter who wins on Tuesday, progress will keep chugging along, and whether America has to suffer through four more years of republican rule or four years of a democratic supermajority, the sun will rise on Wednesday and we'll do fine as a country.

But above all, wear sunscreen.

Lol, that poem put to music was SO comforting and heartwarming and wise.

It's the new American exceptionalism, folks!

Apparently we are the only people ever to live in a democracy where we not only don't have to be vigilant or even be mildly concerned, our very participation doesn't count.

The underlying, unstated message here is, your vote doesn't matter.

And yet, in EACH of the last two Presidential elections, YOUR UNCOUNTED OR NON-TENDERED DEMOCRATIC VOTE in the right state could have made all the damn difference in the world.

Oh, soothing and paternalistic Great White Father, thank you for your tender, paternalistic concern, but our country has suffered mightily the last 8 years.

Yeah, America hasn't quite subsided into the sea, and historically our Republic has withstood some spectacularly poor Presidents; but these are faster, infinitely more complicated, and far more perilous times, and we will be facing them shackled by the burden of a HUGE unpaid bill thanks to George W. Bush. :|

And, damn, what could possibly be worse than 4 more years of Bush?

Enabling a statistically possible President Sarah Palin, that's what. :shocked:

Make your voice heard and vote!

And wear sunscreen!

 

[Jhhnn]

I suppose that I should apologize for that bit of a rant, earlier, but it's important to remember that repubs didn't make a peep about the desirability of divided govt when they held congress and the whitehouse. Quite the contrary- they tried to act like they had a supermajority, tried to force it, even when they didn't.

And let's not kid ourselves about what we're dealing with, either. Repubs picked Bush as their standard bearer, provided every last one of his advisors, and his support in the repub controlled congress was almost absolute. Bush is *not* an anomaly, but rather the culmination of 30 years of effort by those who finance the rightwing. He's no accident.

The fact that McCain has had to change his carefully cultivated maverick persona to gain party support, the fact that he chose Palin, and the fact that he says he'll change Washington using the same cadre of sycophants as Bush should really, really tell us something.

And it has- the McCain campaign has self-destructed right before our eyes, because they haven't been able to energize the radicalized "Sarah!" base while appealing to swing voters at the same time. Nor will repubs likely be able to do so anytime RSN, either. They're screwed, they know it, and that's why they're even flinging their own poo at this point... they have nothing to lose, not even their dignity- that was gone long ago.

I don't have that sinking feeling, the one I got when the swiftliars attacked, at all. The repubs have nothing, they're down to recycling failed talking points, and it's extremely unlikely that the well run Obama campaign will do anything stupid at this point. Just keep on keepin' on, let the chips fall where they may.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

how is that drawing at straws thing treating you?


OP: I am as worried as you are. I am fairly confident that my state, PA, will go Dem but I am worried that there will be another Ohio. I am worried that some more very questionable events might happen. I am afraid in 4 years we will be talking about the last 12 years not the last 8. After 2004 nothing is impossible. maybe if I was around during the Nixon travesty maybe I would have come to expect this.... maybe not. We will see.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

I don't think the debates were completely scripted and while McCain was seething, Obama was calm and cool, and answering questions asked of him. I realize that most/all were prepared answers but they did go off script occasionally, and to me, Senator Obama looked presidential, whereas Senator McCain looked angry, confused and flustered.
In other words, he (Obama) looked presidential.
And for the last time, it's not Kool-aid, it's Flavor-Aid, if you are trying to reference the Jonestown mass suicide issue, I'm sure kool-aid being the more recognized name has a better ring to it, but for the record it was grape flavored Flavor-aid.

I agree with your statements, especially concerning McCain. But, uh, I really don't know where you're coming from with the kool-aid stuff. Was I talking about that?

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

how is that drawing at straws thing treating you?


OP: I am as worried as you are. I am fairly confident that my state, PA, will go Dem but I am worried that there will be another Ohio. I am worried that some more very questionable events might happen. I am afraid in 4 years we will be talking about the last 12 years not the last 8. After 2004 nothing is impossible. maybe if I was around during the Nixon travesty maybe I would have come to expect this.... maybe not. We will see.

These are just my observations. I don't have any feelings of desperation in this election. My thoughts are that neither of the two major candidates are right for the job.

Instead of getting upset because you feel I've dissed your candidate, you'd do far better to make some rational arguments instead of a statement like that. Substance is always better. You didn't cuss and swear like some here, I've got to give you credit for that.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years, but I am truly scared of what will happen if he loses. I hope no riots start, or any of that crap, it's just the idea of having another religous nutwad in the Whitehouse, McCain doesn't scare me too much, I would have probably voted for him if he ran in 2000, but after the smearing dumbya and rove did to him, he didn't have a chance, and post election, and fast forward 8 years, the maverick that was, is no more.

:roll:

You do realize both houses of congress are comfortably controlled by Democrats, right?

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I'm not trying to chicken little here, I am just another citizen, deeply scared that a very flawed system could prevent a very talented, intelligent man from becoming president of the US, again.

The flawed system has aided Obama in getting to be where he is. Be thankful for that.

My personal feeling is that there are *far* more talented, intelligent people *not* named Obama *or* McCain who will never have a chance at influencing this country. But the flawed system will never allow them a realistic chance.

You *cannot* live or die by the elections. Otherwise it means you do not have faith in the underlying principles that created America and made it the greatest country in the world.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
I get a knot in my stomach thinking about If Obama wins and the democrats have a super majority in congress. This would be the death blow to this country. Nothing but bad can come from either party have a fillerbuster proof majority in congress.

But to be honest I do not feel good with either candidate winning.

This, except it won't be a death blow to our country. So far whenever a single party has had control it has spelled out more federal spending. Blech.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
I suppose that I should apologize for that bit of a rant, earlier, but it's important to remember that repubs didn't make a peep about the desirability of divided govt when they held congress and the whitehouse. Quite the contrary- they tried to act like they had a supermajority, tried to force it, even when they didn't.

I have to say that experiencing that last 8 years I would have preferred a split government. I really dislike the direction that republicans have taken. The real problem I have is that the republicans have been spending all my money, and the democrats say they're going to spend my money... So who is NOT going to spend my money? Party that restricts federal spending please!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
To me, Senator Obama is the best choice we've had for president in a VERY long time, maybe close to 50 years

Based on that statement you should not be allowed to vote at all.

4 years in the Senate.
NO executive experience of ANY kind, not even in charge of a Senate committee.
A legislative history that has NO major accomplishments.
Not ONE major bill with his name that people can name of the top of their head, and this is after a two year campaign.
Has NEVER stood up to his party on principle.
Has never stepped across the isle to work with the other side on anything of importance.

And yet he is the best candidate in 50 years???

Better than Eisenhower?
Better than Kennedy?
Better than Reagan?
Better than Clinton?

Every one of those guys had some major accomplishments when they ran for office, Obama has a few nice speeches.

He reads a prepared speech very, very well. Right up near the top as an orator. His speech writers steal a lot of his words from others, but that's inconsequential. When he has to wing it, he stammers, has long pauses and has to search for his words. Because of that, he appears to me, to be unable to think on his feet. I worry about how he'd react in a crisis. I don't feel he has the feet of clay needed for the job.

Voting present so often makes me think he is afraid to commit to anything for fear of making a mistake.

There is more to voting for a candidate than just a knee-jerk reaction to the current administration. Just because the numbskull in charge is with X party, doesn't necessarily mean the best man for the job is with the Y party.

I don't think the debates were completely scripted and while McCain was seething, Obama was calm and cool, and answering questions asked of him. I realize that most/all were prepared answers but they did go off script occasionally, and to me, Senator Obama looked presidential, whereas Senator McCain looked angry, confused and flustered.
In other words, he (Obama) looked presidential.
And for the last time, it's not Kool-aid, it's Flavor-Aid, if you are trying to reference the Jonestown mass suicide issue, I'm sure kool-aid being the more recognized name has a better ring to it, but for the record it was grape flavored Flavor-aid.

I agree with your statements, especially concerning McCain. But, uh, I really don't know where you're coming from with the kool-aid stuff. Was I talking about that?

Sorry, I was referring to others who keep talking about who drank the kool-aid, as to reference brainwashing, a la the Jonestown mass suicide. Poor kool-aid has taken a bum rap, it was really Flavor-aid.

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Sorry, I was referring to others who keep talking about who drank the kool-aid, as to reference brainwashing, a la the Jonestown mass suicide. Poor kool-aid has taken a bum rap, it was really Flavor-aid.

I've been meaning to tell you how much I like your username. Gives me a chuckle every time I see it. It's a classic! Actually, I'm jealous. :brokenheart: There, I've said it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: boomerang

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Sorry, I was referring to others who keep talking about who drank the kool-aid, as to reference brainwashing, a la the Jonestown mass suicide. Poor kool-aid has taken a bum rap, it was really Flavor-aid.

I've been meaning to tell you how much I like your username. Gives me a chuckle every time I see it. It's a classic! Actually, I'm jealous. :brokenheart: There, I've said it.

Thanks!! I BLATANTLY stole it from Uncle Frank, and honestly, have been using it online since 1995 (quake 1, tyvm), and,
Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch was way too long of a name

 

[Xavier434]

The polls and electoral predictions could show the entire country colored in blue and I would still be nervous since the verdict is coming so soon.