Are there absolute truths?

[clamum]

Everything is relative

 

[Apathetic]

Ahh... how about math?

Dave

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

That's what I said... :roll:

 

[Nimloth]

2+2=4

absolute truth?

 

[40Hands]

Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is mearly energy
condenced into a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness
[expearencing itself subjectively], there is no such thing death, life is
only a dream, and we are just an imagination of ourselves.

Here's Tom with the weather...

 

[Modeps]

yep, here's an example:

Modeps > *

 

[Miramonti]

Claims of absolute truths and proofs of absolute truths are two groups that very infrequently intersect.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
"there are no absolute thruths".

i disagree

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
the only absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths.
anything can happen.

At some point, you will die. <--- absolute truth

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: clamum
Everything is relative

Everyting is 50/50.
It will or it wont
It is or it isn't

 

[StageLeft]

That guy is a moron.

 

[nakedfrog]

There may or may not be absolute truths.

 

[iamme]

"there are no absolute truths" <----isn't that an absolute truth?

 

[Mr N8]

I talked to a professor once who said that he actually had student tell him that he couldn't actually be sure of whether he existed or not, because there were no absolutes. If you believe there are no absolutes, you have to have gone off the deep end. Of course, your point about being absolutely sure that there are no absolutes is just the beginning of showing the logical flaw in his belief.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: PHiuR
the only absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths.
anything can happen.

At some point, you will die. <--- absolute truth

The probability that you will eventually die is high, but not guaranteed. There's always the possibility that someone will come up with a way to prevent aging and death.

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Originally posted by: Nimloth
2+2=4

absolute truth?

You have 2 fathers and 2 sons in a room. How many people are there in total? Not 4!

 

[CPA]

I'm going to get laid tonight is the absolute truth.

 

[Cleaner]

I will spend 12 hours in a bathroom if I eat Kentucky Fried Chicken. ITS AN ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!

 

[Davegod75]

God


go ahead..bash me

 

[OnALosingStreak]

one great person once said, i think it was Catullus" something to the likes of 'NOTHING CAN BE PROVEN TO HAVE NEVER EXISTED'... so your friend is full of shizznit....

peace

jeff

 

[gigapet]

And this, too, shall pass away

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: PHiuR
the only absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths.
anything can happen.

At some point, you will die. <--- absolute truth

The probability that you will eventually die is high, but not guaranteed. There's always the possibility that someone will come up with a way to prevent aging and death.

everything that begins must end. Its a cosmic law transcending time, matter and space.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: kinev
Yes. By logic, there has to be.

Is that like "By Crom I will slay him!" ?

 

[phisrow]

The chap you were talking to has a very sloppy formulation, to be sure; but the question is quite interesting.

He might just be an idiot(hard to say one way or the other from what little I know of him) or he may have been incautious about expressing an at least defensible idea about the world. For example: One could say that one can only know truths as relative to other truths. This is actually fairly plausible: Things like mathematics are quite certainly true; but they depend on axioms and rules of logic, which they cannot prove. This is why you get things like Euclidian and Non-Euclidian geometry both being true, while contradiction one another.

One might make the same argument about any system of knowledge, that you need to assume some sort of premises(after all, how could you prove something without anything to prove it from or by) but that given those premises you can make absolute statements about what they mean. This would mean that there are no "absolute" truths; but it doesn't imply that ghastly, squishy, sophmore-in-highschool-who-has-just-read-Philosophy-For-Dummies version of "relativism" where you just say "There is no absolute truth, some things are true for me, others are true for you...lolol I am t37 deep.".

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I was talking to a guy today and the conversation was getting pretty deep. In the course of our convo he mentions "there are no absolute thruths". I asked him if he was sure. He said he is positive. I was like , how can someone be absloutely sure that there are no absolute thruths?

Sorry, I'm tired.

In practice no one really believes there aren't any absolute truths... even affirming that you are certain there are no absolute truths is contradictory in itself.