Are the X2 processors worth the $$$$?

[Rage187]

I went w/ the ASROCK ULi board and a X2 3800 and couldnt be happier. Some awesome hardware.

 

[Markbnj]

[Seriously, post some links to back up your claims:]

I have. Read back. The benchmarks that take only FPS into account miss a lot in terms of smoothness and playability. And even in the FPS benchies the X2 either did very slightly worse, or in some cases even or better than faster single core chips.

It's the future. It is unavoidable.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Are you guys just making up all this stuff?

Seriously, post some links to back up your claims:

AthlonX2 3800+ performs WORSE than Athlon64 3800+ in games:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/index.x?pg=4

THANK YOU for setting it straight. At the moment, games as a whole don't benefit from dual core. Give it some time and you bet they will, just not yet. Like I said earlier, when it is a matter of just games at this point single-core is better 'cause you get the faster MHz which games need. Once they become multi-threaded, then the tables will turn. But only then.

I'm doing a research project on all this stuff for a class so I've been digging into this a lot more lately

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
[Seriously, post some links to back up your claims:]

I have. Read back. The benchmarks that take only FPS into account miss a lot in terms of smoothness and playability. And even in the FPS benchies the X2 either did very slightly worse, or in some cases even or better than faster single core chips.

It's the future. It is unavoidable.

Nvm I just remembered my sig changed lol.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Are you guys just making up all this stuff?

Seriously, post some links to back up your claims:

AthlonX2 3800+ performs WORSE than Athlon64 3800+ in games:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/index.x?pg=4

The benchmarks on that page are at low resolutions, probably to keep the video card from being the bottleneck. They seem to show about a 10% performance advantage to the single-core 3800+.

1) their test setups do not seem to have any real-life stuff like security software, IM clients, P2P downloading tasks, etc.

2) can I notice a 10% difference in average framerate? probably not

3) can I notice the time of a formerly-3-hour encoding job being cut in half? Ohhh yes (edit: reworded this for clarity)

4) can I notice a night-and-day difference in how smoothly games run and how fast maps load if I decide to play some games while running an encoding job in the background for hours and hours? I'd certainly expect to, yes (haven't tried games on my X2, it being an office dweller, but Kyle of [ H ] says it's "the holy grail")

Athlon Dual Core ? (75% Utilization First Pass ? 100% Second Pass) AMD CS:S play showed same exact CS:S game play as Intel. Could not tell computer is encoding video. Smooth as butter, very playable and enjoyable.

Athlon Single Core ? Extremely Long load time. So long you would miss the first round at map change. Had two instances where the game never loaded till encode was done. Once in the game, the map was very choppy and simply unplayable. A much worse experience than Intel single core play.

Which one would you rather have? Maybe the X2 pricing will come down and make this choice easier, but it's easy enough for me.


Just some food for thought there.

 

[Markbnj]

[THANK YOU for setting it straight. At the moment, games as a whole don't benefit from dual core. Give it some time and you bet they will, just not yet. Like I said earlier, when it is a matter of just games at this point single-core is better 'cause you get the faster MHz which games need.]

When I read a statement like this, it makes me want to say "So, what single core processor are you stuck with?"

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
[THANK YOU for setting it straight. At the moment, games as a whole don't benefit from dual core. Give it some time and you bet they will, just not yet. Like I said earlier, when it is a matter of just games at this point single-core is better 'cause you get the faster MHz which games need.]

When I read a statement like this, it makes me want to say "So, what single core processor are you stuck with?"

I agree with the original statement and I am stuck with a dual core processor looking to downgrade. nough said. You can't upgrade for future games. If your looking to buy an X2 and only planning on playing games on it, well you will be wasting a lot of money or Performance compared to a simlar speed single core processor.

 

[w00t]

if your a gamer singel core is better if you are really gonna multi-task than get the dual core it will help alot if you multi-task and game than get dual core but i repeat do not get dual core unless your gonna use it you will be dispointed.

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: w00t
if your a gamer singel core is better if you are really gonna multi-task than get the dual core it will help alot if you multi-task and game than get dual core but i repeat do not get dual core unless your gonna use it you will be dispointed.

Well said.

 

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[biostud]

I can now scan my HDD for vira, read ATOT and run 2 msn windows.......... at the same time without stuttering

 

[Micha]

Probably stupid question, but I would apreciate ansver:

Does X2 3800 in retail BOX came with the same heatsik as 4400 and 4800 (that one with heatpipes)?

Thanks

Pawel

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Micha
Probably stupid question, but I would apreciate ansver:

Does X2 3800 in retail BOX came with the same heatsik as 4400 and 4800 (that one with heatpipes)?

Thanks

Pawel

not mine.