Are Semperon Thoroughbreds more power efficient than the old Althlon Thoroughbreds?

acemcmac

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My HT pc has a Duron 1.1 (50.3w I think) and I'd like to upgrade it without adding much more power consumption as the case is SFF, I can't upgrade the power supply and I don't want to deal with more heat. I already shoehorned a 9800AIW in there.

I was looking at thesethe Duron Applebred 1.8 and the Semperon Thunderbirds, but the Athlon Thunderbirds were around
 

myocardia

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Definitely go for a Sempron. Having 4x the L2 cache will make a definite performance difference. Even the slowest Sempron should outperform the 1.8 Ghz Applebred. And all of those chips should be roughly 50 watts or less, but here's a link, if you care to do the research: link.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Definitely go for a Sempron. Having 4x the L2 cache will make a definite performance difference. Even the slowest Sempron should outperform the 1.8 Ghz Applebred. And all of those chips should be roughly 50 watts or less, but here's a link, if you care to do the research: link.

Wikipedia had a great start, but I wasn't able to find any specific information. :laugh: I didn't even think to go to AMD's website :eek:
 

SparkyJJO

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The Sempron no doubt. The old durons had 128k of L2 cache IIRC (I'll have to check, I'm running a duron 1.2 on one of my data crunchers) but those applebred ones are pathetic with their 64k L2 cache.
 

acemcmac

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XP1500+
=> AX1500DMT3C = 1333MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 10), 256K cache, 1.75V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP1600+
=> AX1600DMT3C = 1400MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 10.5), 256K cache, 1.75V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1600DLT3C = 1400MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 10.5), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP1700+
=> AX1700DMT3C = 1467MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 11), 256K cache, 1.75V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1700DLT3C = 1467MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1700DLT3C = 1467MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1700DUT3C = 1467MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP1800+
=> AX1800DMT3C = 1533MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 11.5), 256K cache, 1.75V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1800DLT3C = 1533MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11.5), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1800DLT3C = 1533MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11.5), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1800DUT3C = 1533MHz Tbred B (model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 11.5x), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP1900+
=> AX1900DMT3C = 1600MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 12), 1.75V, 256K cache, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA1900DLT3C = 1600MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 12), 256K cache, 1.5V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2000+
=> AX2000DMT3C = 1667MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 12.5), 1.75V, 256K cache, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2000DUT3C = 1667MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 12.5), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2000DUT3C = 1667MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 12.5), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2000DKT3C = 1667MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 12.5), 256K cache, 1.65V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDC2000DUT3C = 1667MHz Thorton (Model 10) 266FSB (133.3 x 12.5), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2100+
=> AX2100DMT3C = 1733MHz Palomino (Model 6) 266FSB (133.3 x 13), 256K cache, 1.75V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2100DUT3C = 1733MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 13), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2100DUT3C = 1733MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 13), 256K cache, 1.6V, 90ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2200+
=> AXDA2200DKV3C = 1800MHz Tbred A (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 13.5), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2200DKV3C = 1800MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 13.5), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2200DUV3C = 1800MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 13.5), 256K cache, 1.6V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDC2200DUV3C = 1800MHz Thorton (Model 10) 266FSB (133.3 x 13.5), 256K cache, 1.6V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2400+
=> AXDA2400DKV3C = 2000MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 15), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2400DUV3C = 2000MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 15), 256K cache, 1.6V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDC2400DUV3C = 2000MHz Thorton (Model 10) 266FSB (133.3 x 15), 256K cache, 1.6V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2500+
=> AXDA2500DKV4D = 1833MHz Barton (Model 10) 333FSB (166.6 x 11), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2600+
=> AXDA2600DKV3C = 2133MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 266FSB (133.3 x 16), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2600DKV3D = 2083MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 333FSB (166.6 x 12.5), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2600DKV4D = 1917MHz Barton (Model 10) 333FSB (166.6 x 11.5), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2700+
=> AXDA2700DKV3D = 2167MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 333FSB (166.6 x 13), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP2800+
=> AXDA2800DKV3D = 2250MHz Tbred B (Model 8) 333FSB (166.6 x 13.5), 256K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA2800DKV4D = 2083MHz Barton (Model 10) 333FSB (166.6 x 12.5), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP3000+
=> AXDA3000DKV4D = 2167MHz Barton (Model 10) 333FSB (166.6 x 13), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.
=> AXDA3000DKV4E = 2100MHz Barton (Model 10) 400FSB (200 x 10.5), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.

XP3200+
=> AXDA3200DKV4E = 2200MHz Barton (Model 10) 400FSB (200 x 11), 512K cache, 1.65V, 85ºC Max Die Temp.


Socket A


Sempron 2200+

=> SDA2200DUT3D = 1500 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 9), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm
=> SDC2200DUT3D = 1500 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 9), Thorton, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 2300+

=> SDA2300DUT3D = 1583 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 9.5), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 2400+

=> SDA2400DUT3D = 1667 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 10), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm
=> SDC2400DUT3D = 1667 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 10), Thorton, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 2500+

=> SDA2500DUT3D = 1750 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 10.5), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 2600+

=> SDA2600DUT3D = 1833 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 11), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 2800+

=> SDA2800DUT3D = 2000 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 12), Thoroughbred, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm
=> SDC2800DUT3D = 2000 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 12), Thorton, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm


Sempron 3000+

=> SDA3000DUT3D = 2000 MHz - 333 FSB (166 x 12), Barton, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.6V, 90º C, 62 Watts, 130 nm



Socket 754


Sempron 2500+

=> SDA2500AIO3BX = 1400 MHz (7x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 2600+

=> SDA2600AIO2BA = 1600 MHz (8x200), Winchester, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 62 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm 32 ou 64bits
=> SDA2600AIO2BO = 1600 MHz (8x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm 64bits
=> SDA2600AIO2BX = 1600 MHz (8x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 2800+

=> SDA2800AIO3BA = 1600 MHz (8x200), Winchester, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 62 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm 32 ou 64bits
=> SDA2800AIO2BO = 1600 MHz (8x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm 64bits
=> SDA2800AIO2BX = 1600 MHz (8x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 3000+

=> SDA3000AIO2BA = 1800 MHz (9x200), Winchester, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 62 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm 32 ou 64bits
=> SDA3000AIO2BO = 1800 MHz (9x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm 64bits
=> SDA3000AIO2BX = 1800 MHz (9x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 3100+

=> SDA3100AIP3AX = 1800 MHz (9x200), Paris, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C. Revision CG 130 nm
=> SDA3100AIO3BA = 1800 MHz (9x200), Winchester, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 62 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm 32 ou 64bits
=> SDA3100AIO2BO = 1800 MHz (9x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm 64bits
=> SDA3100AIO2BX = 1800 MHz (9x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 3300+

=> SDA3300AIO2BA = 2000 MHz (10x200), Winchester, 128 KB Cache L2, 1 .4V, 70º C, 62 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm 32 ou 64bits
=> SDA3300AI02B0 = 2000 MHz (10x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm 64bits
=> SDA3300AIO2BX = 2000 MHz (10x200), Palermo, 128 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Sempron 3400+
=> SDA3400AIO3BX = 2000 MHz (10x200), Palermo, 256 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 69º C, 62 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm 64 bits


Socket 754


Athlon 64 2800+

=> ADA2800AEP4AP = 1800 MHz (9x200), ClawHammer, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5 V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision C0 130 nm
=> ADA2800AEP4AX = 1800 MHz (9x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 3000+

=> ADA3000AEP4AP = 2000 MHz (10x200), ClawHammer, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision C0 130 nm
=> ADA3000AEP4AR = 2000 MHz (10x200), ClawHammer, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3000AEP4AX = 2000 MHz (10x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 3200+

=> ADA3200AEP5AP = 2000 MHz (10x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision C0 130 nm
=> ADA3200AEP5AR = 2000 MHz (10x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3200AEP4AX = 2200 MHz (11x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 3400+

=> ADA3400AEP5AP = 2200 MHz (11x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision C0 130 nm
=> ADA3400AEP5AR = 2200 MHz (11x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3400AEP4AR = 2400 MHz (12x200), ClawHammer, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3400AEP4AX = 2400 MHz (12x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 3700+

=> ADA3700AEP5AR = 2400 MHz (12x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Socket 939


Athlon 64 3000+

=> ADA3000DEP4AW = 1800 MHz (9x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3000DIK4BI = 1800 MHz (9x200), Winchester, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm
=> ADA3000DAA4BP = 1800 MHz (9x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm
=> ADA3000DAA4BW = 1800 MHz (9x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 67 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 3200+

=> ADA3200DEP4AW = 2000 MHz (10x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3200DIK4BI = 2000 MHz (10x200), Winchester, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm
=> ADA3200DAA4BP = 2000 MHz (10x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm
=> ADA3200DAA4BW = = 2000 MHz (10x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 67 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 3400+

=> ADA3400DEP4AZ = 2200 MHz (11x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 3500+

=> ADA3500DEP4AS = 2200 MHz (11x200), ClawHammer, 512 KB Cache L2,1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3500DEP4AW = 2200 MHz (11x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3500DIK4BI = 2200 MHz (11x200), Winchester, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision D0 90 nm
=> ADA3500DAA4BP = 2200 MHz (11x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm
=> ADA3500DAA4BN = 2200 MHz (11x200), San Diego, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 67 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm
=> ADA3500DAA4BW = 2200 MHz (11x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 67 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 3700+

=> ADA3700DAA5BN = 2200 MHz (11x200), San Diego, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm


Athlon 64 3800+

=> ADA3800DEP4AW = 2400 MHz (12x200), NewCastle, 512 KB Cache L2,1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA3800DAA4BP = 2400 MHz (12x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision E3 90 nm
=> ADA3800DAA4BW = 2400 MHz (12x200), Venice, 512 KB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 89 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 4000+

=> ADA4000DEP5AS = 2400 MHz (12x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
=> ADA4000DAA5BN = 2400 MHz (12x200), San Diego, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm


Athlon 64 FX

FX-53 => ADAFX53DEP5AS = 2400 MHz (12x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
FX-55 => ADAFX55DEI5AS = 2600 MHz (13x200), ClawHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 63º C, 104 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
FX-55 => ADAFX55DAA5BN = 2600 MHz (13x200), San Diego, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 104 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm
FX-57 => ADAFX57DAA5BN = 2800 MHz (14x200), San Diego, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 104 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm



Socket 940


Athlon 64 FX

FX-51 => ADAFX51CEP5AK = 2200 MHz (11x200), SledgeHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts Revision C0 130 nm
FX-51 => ADAFX51CEP5AT = 2200 MHz (11x200), SledgeHammer, 1 MB Cache L2, 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm
FX-53 => ADAFX53CEP5AT = 2400MHz (12x200), SledgeHammer, 1 MB Cache L2. 1.5V, 70º C, 89 Watts, Revision CG 130 nm


Athlon 64 X2 (Dual Core)



Socket 939


Athlon 64 X2 3800+

=> ADA3800DAA5BV = 2 x 2000 MHz (10x200), Manchester, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 89 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm
=> ADA3800DAA5CD = 2 x 2000 MHz (10x200), Toledo, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 89 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 X2 4200+

=> ADA4200DAA5BV = 2 x 2200 MHz (11x200), Manchester, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 89 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm
=> ADA4200DAA5CD = 2 x 2200 MHz (11x200), Toledo, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 89 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 X2 4400+

=> ADA4400DAA6CD = 2 x 2200 MHz (11x200), Toledo, 2 MB Cache L2 (1 MB + 1 MB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 110 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 X2 4600+

=> ADA4600DAA5BV = 2 x 2400 MHz (12x200), Manchester, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 110 Watts, Revision E4 90 nm
=> ADA4600DAA6CD = = 2 x 2400 MHz (12x200), Toledo, 1 MB Cache L2 (512 KB + 512 KB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 110 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm


Athlon 64 X2 4800+

=> ADA4800DAA6CD = 2 x 2400 MHz (12x200), Toledo, 2 MB Cache L2 (1 MB + 1 MB), 1.35/1.4V, 65º C, 110 Watts, Revision E6 90 nm
 

acemcmac

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Looks like I'm going for a semperon 2600. Thx guys. Hope this information helps someone else some day.
 

AMUNPiper

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If your motherboard can support it, I'd suggest a mobile Barton. You should be able to find these resonably priced in the trading forums.
There are both 35W and 45W models, and if run at stock speeds are very easy to keep cool.