Are police cars suped up?

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
There is an article from Popular Mechanics where they took a stock Crown Victoria and a Police Interceptor Crown Victoria and compared them. They were basically the same.

I thought that the Police versions got a stiffer frame and suspension and a bunch of other smaller stuff

Bingo. Stronger wheels, stronger suspension, heavy duty engine mounts, better transmission (depends on if its a highway or city police car. Highway cars have the same, city cars have more durable transmissions), heavy duty electrical systems, etc etc.

Basically the police cruisers are the same as the Taxi cabs though. They don't have (any?) many performance modifications, but they are built to be a hell of a lot more reliable. Its not unusual for a police cruiser to last as long as 300K miles with proper maintenance.

You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
There is an article from Popular Mechanics where they took a stock Crown Victoria and a Police Interceptor Crown Victoria and compared them. They were basically the same.

I thought that the Police versions got a stiffer frame and suspension and a bunch of other smaller stuff

Bingo. Stronger wheels, stronger suspension, heavy duty engine mounts, better transmission (depends on if its a highway or city police car. Highway cars have the same, city cars have more durable transmissions), heavy duty electrical systems, etc etc.

Basically the police cruisers are the same as the Taxi cabs though. They don't have (any?) many performance modifications, but they are built to be a hell of a lot more reliable. Its not unusual for a police cruiser to last as long as 300K miles with proper maintenance.

You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

Umm... I think that site is just an example of the modified vehicles.... The ones the site sells are modified, but I'm sure most police forces buy straight from Ford, GM or whomever, and as such do not have quite as modified vehicles.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
There is an article from Popular Mechanics where they took a stock Crown Victoria and a Police Interceptor Crown Victoria and compared them. They were basically the same.

I thought that the Police versions got a stiffer frame and suspension and a bunch of other smaller stuff

Bingo. Stronger wheels, stronger suspension, heavy duty engine mounts, better transmission (depends on if its a highway or city police car. Highway cars have the same, city cars have more durable transmissions), heavy duty electrical systems, etc etc.

Basically the police cruisers are the same as the Taxi cabs though. They don't have (any?) many performance modifications, but they are built to be a hell of a lot more reliable. Its not unusual for a police cruiser to last as long as 300K miles with proper maintenance.

You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

pwn3d

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
There is an article from Popular Mechanics where they took a stock Crown Victoria and a Police Interceptor Crown Victoria and compared them. They were basically the same.

I thought that the Police versions got a stiffer frame and suspension and a bunch of other smaller stuff

Bingo. Stronger wheels, stronger suspension, heavy duty engine mounts, better transmission (depends on if its a highway or city police car. Highway cars have the same, city cars have more durable transmissions), heavy duty electrical systems, etc etc.

Basically the police cruisers are the same as the Taxi cabs though. They don't have (any?) many performance modifications, but they are built to be a hell of a lot more reliable. Its not unusual for a police cruiser to last as long as 300K miles with proper maintenance.

You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

Umm... I think that site is just an example of the modified vehicles.... The ones the site sells are modified, but I'm sure most police forces buy straight from Ford, GM or whomever, and as such do not have quite as modified vehicles.

You did read the part at the bottom where it said about 'Depends on package purchased" right?

Most police departments that get the Crown Vic Interceptor package go the full nine with the options these days. Those without a need for all those options seem to be moving to the new Impala Interceptor. Obviiously not every police deparment needs every single option, but most of those listed above are standard options for the Crown Vic. I don't know much about the Impala Interceptor, except that its an Impala and its reliability is a lot more suspect than the Crown Vic.

The police in my town still have 4 or 5 Crown Vic Interceptors from the early 90s on the road today. I don't think its a far cry to say they're close to or over the 300K range in mileage.

 

[cypriot]

It depends on the purchase of the police department... It's different for different departments and countries, it's totally upto the request of the department.. In Cyprus, we have Peugot 406s(car in the movie Taxi and Taxi 2).. and Opel Astras as police cars... They are pretty cool... but there are some lucky cops out there for sure.. see the links

Germany
US, I guess
Australia

And please don't compare cop cars to taxis.. in Cyprus, all taxis are Mercedes, mostly new models 🙂 heh
I love my island 🙂

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man
You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

hahahhaha. fvcking owned.


=|

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

 

[jteef]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
You can outrun the car, you cant outrun the Motorola.
Anyone seen the video of the M3 outrunning the police? That was a KID driving, and he was giving the cops a good run for the money.

from what i've "heard" it may not have been a "kid" and he did get away for the moment anyways, until the cops showed up at his house. The footage they show at the end where his car "breaks down" is the exact same footage of him braking to avoid the second spike strip...

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. They have a governed top speed of 137mph. The newer models are faster. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

 

[Ladies Man]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man
You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

hahahhaha. fvcking owned.


=|

Wow i'm glad i'm sooo fvcking owned.

Lets see......
how many of these are JUST FOR COPS????
Ohh the sweet black tires and rims... thank god
oil cooler, transmission cooler, bigger alternator, and bigger wires for electronics are the money options... Don't forget that nice caged back seat....

Whoops I've been pwned!

Cop car is barely different from a regular car and if you think any different you are an idiot.

Many cars on the road, including my pos mustang can out run a cop car, but they have the radio and a helicopter.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Whoops I've been pwned!

Yup!!

 

[Ladies Man]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Whoops I've been pwned!

Yup!!

Cop car is barely different from a regular car and if you think any different you are an idiot.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Ladies Man
You sir are an idiot.

Actually, I was wrong about the transmission. It's the driveshaft that is stronger, the transmission gets an oil cooler. Excuse me. I also forgot some other things. The rest of it is spot on, read for yourself:

* 3.27 locker rear
* 15x6.5" Heavy Duty steel wheels
* 130 amp alternator
* Bodyside molding delete
* Heavy duty 850 CCA battery
* Stainless steel exhaust
* P225/70R15 Speed Rated blackwall tires
* Reinforced roof
* Front/rear disc brakes
* Heavy Duty 45/45 front bucket seats
* Heavy duty suspension including front and rear springs, shocks, and stabilizer bars
* Certified speedometer in 2MPH increments 0-140MPH, includes:Trip odometer, oil, water, volt gauges, off switch for speedometer light
* Heavy duty u-joints and driveshaft
* Battery saver
* Transmission oil cooler
* Engine compartment lighting
* Silicone hoses and worm drive clamps
* Full wheel covers
* Heavy duty body mounts
* Special pursuit calibration 4.6L V8 for improved charging and cooling
* Single key locking
* Interval wipers
* Modified powersteering gear with improved road feel
* Accessory feed wires, 1 ignition (30 amp), 1 direct feed(50 amp)
* Engine oil cooler
* Remote trunk opener, left side of steering column

quoted from here

Looks like you are an idiot, and an asshole to boot.. now get the fvck off my porch, kthx.

hahahhaha. fvcking owned.


=|

Wow i'm glad i'm sooo fvcking owned.

Lets see......
how many of these are JUST FOR COPS????
Ohh the sweet black tires and rims... thank god
oil cooler, transmission cooler, bigger alternator, and bigger wires for electronics are the money options... Don't forget that nice caged back seat....

Whoops I've been pwned!

Cop car is barely different from a regular car and if you think any different you are an idiot.

Few (if any?) of those options are standard on the regular car, and a lot of them (like the heavy duty frame, suspension, etc) are not available to consumers. Taxis and Police Cars, and other commercial heavy-duty FLEET vehicles can get these options (wait, I already said that, didn't I?) , but Joe Schmoe can't just walk into a Ford dealership and walk out with everything but the better electrical system.

And if YOU think any different, YOU are an idiot. But we've already established that, haven't we?

Many cars on the road, including my pos mustang can out run a cop car, but they have the radio and a helicopter.

Thank you, captain obvious, for gracing us with your supreme wealth of knowledge. We all appreciate you taking time away from your oh-so-important task of keeping the world safe with other tidbits of knowledge like 'Caution: Coffee is HOT' and 'Bleach is a skin and eye irritant. Not for human consumption".

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Who the fsck cares...stop arguing about pointless details.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

The Aviator has the same engine that is in the Mercury Marauder. It is a DOHC 4.6L V8. When I mentioned those cars I was mentioning them in terms of the transmission used "Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators." I never mentioned them in terms of engines,

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

From here:

Year: 2000
Make: Ford
Model: Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
Engine: 4.6L overhead cam SEFI V8
Transmission: 4-Speed AOD
Axle Ratio: 3.55
Curb Weight: 4,039 lbs (approx)

Fuel Type: Unleaded
Fuel Capacity: 19 Gallons
Horsepower: 235
Torque: 285 ft.lbs. @ 3,000 RPM
Top Speed: 139 MPH
0-60: 8.75 seconds
1/4 Mile ET: 16.93@83.25 MPH

From here:

The pre-1998 model, which originally began its production run sometime in the early 90s, is still being used by some agencies. The police package on these models were basically the same as the latest model, except that they came equipped with a 210 hp V8. It hits 60 mph in 9.1 seconds and has a governed top speed of 137 mph. A natural gas-powered 178 hp version was also offered.

Either there is a difference between the model years, there is a difference between the packages these different sites are using to test with, or we can safely assume that the top speed is somewhere between 130 and 140mph, depending on road conditions, if the wind is blowing in the right direction, and the price of rice in china.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

The Aviator has the same engine that is in the Mercury Marauder. It is a DOHC 4.6L V8. When I mentioned those cars I was mentioning them in terms of the transmission used "Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators." I never mentioned them in terms of engines,

Dude, the 4.6 DOHC was in the Cobra for a LONG time. I am pretty sure the Mercury's engine is a similar version.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

The Aviator has the same engine that is in the Mercury Marauder. It is a DOHC 4.6L V8. When I mentioned those cars I was mentioning them in terms of the transmission used "Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators." I never mentioned them in terms of engines,

Dude, the 4.6 DOHC was in the Cobra for a LONG time. I am pretty sure the Mercury's engine is a similar version.

The engine used in the Marauder is the same one that used to be in the cobra. The new cobra engine is cast-Iron, the Marauder's is Aluminum. The Mustangs are not in the same class as any of the cars I mentioned in my posts, this is why I didn't even bother to bring them up. Also, I am going to sleep, so I will respond to whatever tomorrow.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

The Aviator has the same engine that is in the Mercury Marauder. It is a DOHC 4.6L V8. When I mentioned those cars I was mentioning them in terms of the transmission used "Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators." I never mentioned them in terms of engines,

Dude, the 4.6 DOHC was in the Cobra for a LONG time. I am pretty sure the Mercury's engine is a similar version.

The engine used in the Marauder is the same one that used to be in the cobra. The new cobra engine is cast-Iron, the Marauder's is Aluminum. The Mustangs are not in the same class as any of the cars I mentioned in my posts, this is why I didn't even bother to bring them up. Also, I am going to sleep, so I will respond to whatever tomorrow.

Umm... no sh!t? I think I know a TAD bit about modular engines, which is why I said the fvcking 4.6 DOHC WAS in the Cobra for a long time. They are now using the Iron block because they were afraid the blower would cause the aluminium block to fail(ignoring the tons of Vobras out there). Trust me... I know a bit about the 4.6. Just a bit.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: KraziKid

Originally posted by: Kenazo
they have the limiter disabled, or removed, so they will outrun an un-modified car of the same type.

Not true. A CVPI (Crown Vic Police Interceptor) is governed to 123 mph just like any other vehicle with the driveshaft they use. They are governed to this speed because of the resonance of the rotating driveshaft on the cars. A CVPI has the same drivetrain as any comparable Crown Vic civilian model (same transmissio, same 4.6L SOHC V8), just a beefed up chasis and skin.

Read a couple posts above. They have transmission coolers, engine oil coolers, locking gears and heavy duty driveshafts. God I wish you people would use google before you spout off about stuff you don't know about.

The CVPI has a heavy duty drive shaft, but the governor still goes up to 123 MPH. Also, I believe the CV LX Sport has locking gears. The only thing the CVPI has that you mention is the engine oil coolers and transmission coolers. These don't give the car more power, only offer it more longevity in a chase and a longer drivetrain lifetime.

EDIT: Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators. All the CVPI has is the cooler which will allow the car run for longer periods of time at higher speeds (no power boost due to the cooler).

Umm.. 4r70w is in the Mustang too.

I was aiming at larger cars with my description. The larger cars (and the SUV) are comparable to the Crown Vic in the performance category. There are a few other cars with the 4R70W transmission, but I was trying to compare the CVPI to stock cars the same size to show that cop cars aren't very much "suped up" from their consumer counterparts.

The Aviator has a 32V DOHC engine very similar to the 99-02 Cobra's. I wouldn't say the Aviator is comparable to a damn Crown Vic.

The Aviator has the same engine that is in the Mercury Marauder. It is a DOHC 4.6L V8. When I mentioned those cars I was mentioning them in terms of the transmission used "Also, I believe the current 2003 CVPI uses the 4R70W transmission which is the same one used in the 2003 Grand Marquis, 2003 civilian Crown Vic's, 2003 Mercury Marauder's, and 2003 Lincoln Aviators." I never mentioned them in terms of engines,

Dude, the 4.6 DOHC was in the Cobra for a LONG time. I am pretty sure the Mercury's engine is a similar version.

The engine used in the Marauder is the same one that used to be in the cobra. The new cobra engine is cast-Iron, the Marauder's is Aluminum. The Mustangs are not in the same class as any of the cars I mentioned in my posts, this is why I didn't even bother to bring them up. Also, I am going to sleep, so I will respond to whatever tomorrow.

Umm... no sh!t? I think I know a TAD bit about modular engines, which is why I said the fvcking 4.6 DOHC WAS in the Cobra for a long time. They are now using the Iron block because they were afraid the blower would cause the aluminium block to fail(ignoring the tons of Vobras out there). Trust me... I know a bit about the 4.6. Just a bit.

I think they all gave up. We have supreme knowledge. We should get together sometime and try using it to score with the Olsen twins.

 

[AvesPKS]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: AvesPKS
There is an article from Popular Mechanics where they took a stock Crown Victoria and a Police Interceptor Crown Victoria and compared them. They were basically the same.

I thought that the Police versions got a stiffer frame and suspension and a bunch of other smaller stuff

I should have articulated farther. They did a acceleration test, handling test, etc. and the civilian version of the Crown Vic performed almost exactly the same as the Police Interceptor.