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Are pit bulls legit service dogs?

Is it ok to have a pit bull service dog walking around Disneyland?

  • Yes

  • No

  • only if Michael Vick is walking it

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brainhulk

brainhulk

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Saw a trailer trash looking dude, tatted up and walking his ferocious pit bull at Disneyland the other day. The only way I think pets are allowed in the park is if they are service dogs right? Has anybody ever seen a pit bull service dog? wtf? if this dog snapped and broke loose from it's leash, it had a literal buffet full of kids to go after...
 
Man there are like a billion things that can set one of those monsters off there. What a nut.
 
brainhulk said:
Saw a trailer trash looking dude, tatted up and walking his ferocious pit bull at Disneyland the other day. The only way I think pets are allowed in the park is if they are service dogs right? Has anybody ever seen a pit bull service dog? wtf? if this dog snapped and broke loose from it's leash, it had a literal buffet full of kids to go after...
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You're an idiot. Do you know why breed specific laws have been made illegal? Because research shows that there are many more highly aggressive dogs than pitbulls (who aren't even a breed). Dobermans, rottweilers, dalmations, and german shepards fair worse on temperament ratings on average. Staffordshire terriers (what most people think of as a pitbull) typically score in the middle ground to low on aggression scales. Any smart, moderate size dog can be a service dog. They don't just give an aggressive dog the service dog tag.
 
SociallyChallenged said:
You're an idiot. Do you know why breed specific laws have been made illegal? Because research shows that there are many more highly aggressive dogs than pitbulls (who aren't even a breed). Dobermans, rottweilers, dalmations, and german shepards fair worse on temperament ratings on average. Staffordshire terriers (what most people think of as a pitbull) typically score in the middle ground to low on aggression scales. Any smart, moderate size dog can be a service dog. They don't just give an aggressive dog the service dog tag.
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And none of them should be walking around Disneyland. Just because there are more that get dangerous faster or easier doesn't mean it's an acceptable level or safe enough.
 
I predict this thread will bring us together towards a consensus.

I'm really optimistic.
 
Theoretically, any dog can be a service dog, depending on the need. My wife had her dog certified as an emotional support animal, and that's all she does. Technically, she's a service dog and can go pretty much anywhere.

As for SC, pit bulls are indeed a breed, they're American Pit bull terriers, similar to but different than staffordshire terriers, which are larger.

And T9D, you're just moronic...pit bulls aren't any more dangerous than any other breed. Certainly not more dangerous than my ridgeback. Depends on the owner.
 
I would rather have a pit bull as a service dog since they will kill anyone who attempts to harm me. Of course they never attack people who don't deserve it. That's why they're perfect pets.
 
Pit bulls are actually very well bred for being service dogs, they have an intense personality and a high desire to please their owners. They're intensely loyal to their families (like a lot of breeds) and most are total snuggle hounds.
 
Theb said:
I predict this thread will bring us together towards a consensus.

I'm really optimistic.
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My lower intestine swells with admiration for your wonderfully positive outlook on life. I, too, foresee nothing but an amicable coming together of the minds here. :biggrin:
 
T9D said:
And none of them should be walking around Disneyland. Just because there are more that get dangerous faster or easier doesn't mean it's an acceptable level or safe enough.
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Considering I work with individuals with disabilities on a daily basis, this post demonstrates a complete lack of understanding and compassion. Good service dogs are 100% appropriate and allow individuals with special needs to enjoy the activities we all like to participate in. Just because someone who has a knee injury and may at some point get a muscle spasm doesn't mean they should have their license revoked.
 
uclaLabrat said:
Theoretically, any dog can be a service dog, depending on the need. My wife had her dog certified as an emotional support animal, and that's all she does. Technically, she's a service dog and can go pretty much anywhere.

As for SC, pit bulls are indeed a breed, they're American Pit bull terriers, similar to but different than staffordshire terriers, which are larger.

And T9D, you're just moronic...pit bulls aren't any more dangerous than any other breed. Certainly not more dangerous than my ridgeback. Depends on the owner.
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They are not. My girlfriend does breed specific research in the veterinary world. Part of the difficulty is that what people think of as pitbulls are usually terrier mixes. A pit bull breed is not acknowledged by the American Veterinary Medical Association and elsewhere is called Staffordshire Terrier.
 
SociallyChallenged said:
Interesting. In this case, I imagine we're both right.
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Ok, so the AKC doesn't recognize them after all, but according to yahoo answers, it's because they haven't been petitioned by the APBT club.

Whatever, I don't know why we're splitting hairs when any idiot is going to lump any mutt with a blocky head in as a pit bull.
 
uclaLabrat said:
Ok, so the AKC doesn't recognize them after all, but according to yahoo answers, it's because they haven't been petitioned by the APBT club.

Whatever, I don't know why we're splitting hairs when any idiot is going to lump any mutt with a blocky head in as a pit bull.
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Right, just checked it myself. The point I was making is that many terrier mixes look like "pitbulls" and often get lumped into a large group that everyone's afraid of. If people want actual answers on breed aggression, they actually need to stick to the genetic breeds. Mixes are a bit of an anomaly and can vary quite a bit in terms of aggression.
 
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Just about any dog can be trained to provide some service. I've seen a blind person with a Great Dane as a guide dog.

I've known several Pitt Bulls that were therapy dogs. So yes, they can be.
 
Fine, maybe 1/100 pit bulls are ok. But I think the majority of people walking around with a pit bull, chihuahua, pomeranian, or shit zu are just bullshitting that it is a service dog. They just lie so they can take their dog everywhere they fucking go
 
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brainhulk said:
Fine, maybe 1/100 pit bulls are ok. But I think the majority of people walking around with a pit bull, chihuahua, pomeranian, or shit zu are just bullshitting that it is a service dog. They just lie so they can take their dog everywhere they fucking go
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All they have to do is get certified by a licensed doctor or therapist, which in most cases involves writing a letter. No one is legally allowed to contest it, as that constitutes a violation of HIPAA.
 
The real problem is you can go online from multiple sites and buy all the paper work and vests to make any dog a service dog with no training or medical need what so ever. So many people with fake service/emotional support dogs just have them so they can skirt the laws mainly housing laws.
 
thedarkwolf said:
The real problem is you can go online from multiple sites and buy all the paper work and vests to make any dog a service dog with no training or medical need what so ever. So many people with fake service/emotional support dogs just have them so they can skirt the laws mainly housing laws.
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THANK YOU

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brainhulk said:
Fine, maybe 1/100 pit bulls are ok. But I think the majority of people walking around with a pit bull, chihuahua, pomeranian, or shit zu are just bullshitting that it is a service dog. They just lie so they can take their dog everywhere they fucking go
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1/100 pit bulls are ok? Where do you get that statistic?
 
thedarkwolf said:
The real problem is you can go online from multiple sites and buy all the paper work and vests to make any dog a service dog with no training or medical need what so ever. So many people with fake service/emotional support dogs just have them so they can skirt the laws mainly housing laws.
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And most housing laws are complete bullshit. In any case, people with fraudulent forms can be prosecuted, although I'm not sure how it's enforced.
 
Well maybe housing laws wasn't the right way to say it. I meant landlord pet rules.

http://servicedogcentral.org/content/faq/63
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080331190914AA8xB4j

"You asked whether or not you can request paperwork to identify a Service Dog, and the answer is NO.

You cannot request paperwork, identifying clothing or vests, ID tags (even though in some counties in California one is required, Federal law supercedes all state and local agency laws and therefore not everyone who has a SD resides in that county, which requires the tag, and so it is not legally required and the person with the SD would win in court).

So, no ID tag, no paperwork, no vest, no cards...there is absolutely nothing required of a service dog user according to the ADA of 1990.

Furthermore, you may violate a person's rights by asking them for such things and the patron was exactly correct in telling you that her rights were being violated by your request.

You may only ask a service dog user 3 questions.

The legal questions you may ask are:
1) Are you disabled?
2) Is this a service animal?
3) What tasks does this animal provide you with?"

That is why it is so easy to get away with it having a fake service/emotional support animal. If you suspect the person is lying and call them on it and are wrong you are an EVIL SOB and will end up on the news labeled as the scum of the Earth at best or at worst sued. So most people just get away with it.
 
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