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Descartes

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
During the interview process, I wear a suit and tie every time. Even if the dress code is casual or business casual. It just shows your professionalism, and a suit will command more respect than someone wearing jeans or khakis.

A few years back at an accounting firm I was in a meeting with a bunch of project stakeholders when one of the new project managers stepped in. He was had been wearing a suit since the day he got there, and people were actually expressing frustration with it. When he walked in, a partner said, "Don't you wear that f@#$#@! suit every again." Everyone laughed, but he said "I'm serious." He didn't wear it again.

Harsh environment. I don't really have a point with my little story since this has nothing to do with the interview, but I thought you might be able to relate since accounting is one of the industries that still really caters to professionalism.
 

Megatomic

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It's so nice to be in the power biz where the dress code is jeans, tshirts, denim overshirts, and boots. My interviews are typically done in khaki pants, a polo shirt, and my nice pair of boots (newish). My haircut and shave are always good thanks to being brainwashed by the Navy. :|
 
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Tim

You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
A lot of young people have no clue. I used to wear white socks with my business casual atire. It was terrible, but people learn :) Hopefully. I've only ever worked at business casual places and always have interviewed with a tie, never a jacket.

:Q
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Skoorb
A lot of young people have no clue. I used to wear white socks with my business casual atire. It was terrible, but people learn :) Hopefully. I've only ever worked at business casual places and always have interviewed with a tie, never a jacket.

:Q

i did that and I still do;)
 

Megatomic

Lifer
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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
During the interview process, I wear a suit and tie every time. Even if the dress code is casual or business casual. It just shows your professionalism, and a suit will command more respect than someone wearing jeans or khakis.

A few years back at an accounting firm I was in a meeting with a bunch of project stakeholders when one of the new project managers stepped in. He was had been wearing a suit since the day he got there, and people were actually expressing frustration with it. When he walked in, a partner said, "Don't you wear that f@#$#@! suit every again." Everyone laughed, but he said "I'm serious." He didn't wear it again.

Harsh environment. I don't really have a point with my little story since this has nothing to do with the interview, but I thought you might be able to relate since accounting is one of the industries that still really caters to professionalism.

Damn, thats harsh. Honestly though, that guy (the one wearing the suit) should have known better. What I mean by that is it would have been fine for him to wear a suit during his first few days, maybe even during his first week. But new employees have be aware of the company culture. How do people dress? What do people act? During my first busy season at the company I work for now, I went into work on Saturday for the first time. Dress code here is business casual during the week, and Saturdays is basically "anything goes". I went into work business casual (khaki's and a tucked in button down shirt). One of the managers immedietly told me I was over-dressed. Every Saturday since then, it's been jeans, a tshirt, and maybe a hat. I actually like putting on a suit sometimes; but there's no way I'd come to work in a suit unless there was reason to or I was visiting a client who had a professional dress code.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.

this is true

my interview for my current job required me to wear steeltoes and stated in bold NO TIE
 

Mxylplyx

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I've worn a tie maybe 4 times in my professional career, and have in turn received about 4 job offers in that time.
 

Megatomic

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.

this is true

my interview for my current job required me to wear steeltoes and stated in bold NO TIE
I've seen video of people having their ties caught in rotating machinery. Some don't end very well at all. :(

 
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Tim

Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.

this is true

my interview for my current job required me to wear steeltoes and stated in bold NO TIE

I'm sorry, but I think it is a complete different situation if you're TOLD what to wear on your interview. I stand by what I said. I work in a "cubicle" now, but 6 years ago when I interviewed at a car motor oil packaging plant, I dressed up. I got the job, the three other slouches that were there didn't.
 
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Lola

Do you think there are double-standards on attire for interviews in men vs. women?
If a woman wore the equivalent of khakis and a button down shirt, what would be the interviewer?s perception?
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lola

If a woman wore the equivalent of khakis and a button down shirt, what would be the interviewer?s perception?

how big are said womans boobs?











i kid i kid :p
 

Megatomic

Lifer
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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.

this is true

my interview for my current job required me to wear steeltoes and stated in bold NO TIE

I'm sorry, but I think it is a complete different situation if you're TOLD what to wear on your interview. I stand by what I said. I work in a "cubicle" now, but 6 years ago when I interviewed at a car motor oil packaging plant, I dressed up. I got the job, the three other slouches that were there didn't.
What was your job at said car motor oil plant? No one tells me what to wear, but I've been around long enough to know that you will be walking the plant when you interview. I've even been asked to troubleshoot actual plant problems while interviewing, that was interesting.
 

Feldenak

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Lola
Do you think there are double-standards on attire for interviews in men vs. women?
If a woman wore the equivalent of khakis and a button down shirt, what would be the interviewer?s perception?

Depends, what do you consider equivalent of khakis & a button down?

 
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Tim

Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
You should always dress nice for an interview, reguardless of where it is. This "matching the environment" stuff is hogwash.
Maybe if you are going to be working in a cubicle... Try coming to a power/chemical/refining plant in a suit and dress shoes. You can't even tour the facility, much less do any hands on testing.

this is true

my interview for my current job required me to wear steeltoes and stated in bold NO TIE

I'm sorry, but I think it is a complete different situation if you're TOLD what to wear on your interview. I stand by what I said. I work in a "cubicle" now, but 6 years ago when I interviewed at a car motor oil packaging plant, I dressed up. I got the job, the three other slouches that were there didn't.
What was your job at said car motor oil plant? No one tells me what to wear, but I've been around long enough to know that you will be walking the plant when you interview. I've even been asked to troubleshoot actual plant problems while interviewing, that was interesting.

Please see what I put in bold. That's what I was replying too when talking about being told what to wear on the interview. I interviewed for a spot on the production line that day btw.

I think this is very simple here... you show up looking your best, you make that great first impression... if they ask you to trouble-shoot something during the interview, how hard is it to just take the tie off at that point and perform the task? Yes, you may ruin your nice shirt, but you just showed your interviewer that you're the guy or gal that will go the extra mile.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
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I always dress top notch for interviews, but every place I have ever worked promotes business casual attire. Most people just don't want to dress in uncomfortable clothing unless they are meeting with clients often or something to that effect.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Lola
Do you think there are double-standards on attire for interviews in men vs. women?

No. I do think there are double-standards for a lot of other reasons though.

If a woman wore the equivalent of khakis and a button down shirt, what would be the interviewer?s perception?

I see women wear khakis and a nice shirt (whatever it's called for women; sorry, I'm hopelessly ignorant about women's clothes) all the time. I think it's pretty close to men's business casual.

Generally though, women have a lot more ways to dress it up or down given the situation. They can wear a nice skirt with a nice shirt and fit in equally well with almost any environment. The jacket and tie for men is such an obvious distinction in attire that you don't have much flexibility once you decide to put them on.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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If I was doing the hiring physical appearance/dress would be about the last criteria in mind.

I've seen too much shit wrapped in pretty packages to be easily swayed.
 

Megatomic

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
I think this is very simple here... you show up looking your best, you make that great first impression... if they ask you to trouble-shoot something during the interview, how hard is it to just take the tie off at that point and perform the task? Yes, you may ruin your nice shirt, but you just showed your interviewer that you're the guy or gal that will go the extra mile.
I can agree with this, you show up looking good for the environment you are going to be in. And use common sense in attiring yourself for sure. :)
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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Way to not wear a suit, OP. What an underdressed jerk. I wouldn't hire you.

The job I work at now is very casual, and they encourage you to dress casual at the interview. I wore black dress pants and a button down shirt (no tie) and I was still easily the best dressed person in the office.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
Oct 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: Deeko
Way to not wear a suit, OP. What an underdressed jerk. I wouldn't hire you.

The job I work at now is very casual, and they encourage you to dress casual at the interview. I wore black dress pants and a button down shirt (no tie) and I was still easily the best dressed person in the office.

Correct me if my sarcasm meter is broken here. You wouldn't hire someone who is wearing a dress shirt, dress pants, polished shoes, and a tie just because there wasn't a coat covering most of that up? :confused:

I understand that first impressions mean a lot, but that to me would show the effort I am looking for if I were the one hiring. The rest would boil down to how the interview goes. Keep in mind that I have never gone to an interview without a coat to complete a suit, but the only reason I do that is because there are some people who are just too picky for their own good.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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You quoted me but obviously didn't read past what you bolded. I was being sarcastic and satirizing the OP's attitude. I didn't think I needed to spell that out.
 

spidey07

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Appearance is EVERYTHING. It's probably the most important because it is how you are perceived and what the first impression you make. Perception is reality.

I remember walking around during an interview and somebody came up to the guy interviewing me and said "who's the suit, what's he selling?" I quickly answered "myself".