My vid card has 256 megs of ram, i have an antec 480w power supply, and one gig of ram. I can't tell if the hard drive is going during the pauses because my sata raptor doesn't use the HD led .
My vid card has 256 megs of ram, i have an antec 480w power supply, and one gig of ram. I can't tell if the hard drive is going during the pauses because my sata raptor doesn't use the HD led .
point of view 6800u here...
and i got it yesterday
started out with newest forceware
then backed down to the ones that came with the card... then the 3dmark approved ones
i see upto 73c idle temps
:disgust: and with CB2.0 / rivatuner installed i also checked the "fan always on" since i found out it basicly turned itself off completely!!
i even put every performance slider to highest performance still didnt help
the POV runs default (2D) at 400/1100 but 3D at 425/1100
i've tried to lower both but no change i still get 6-10 sec pauses and eventually a crash/reboot
with windows coming up saying the drivers made a booboo
considering returning it and getting a diff brand
but the POV was appealing pricewise... since i'll be getting awaterblock for it eventually
hope someone finds a clue to whats wrong at some point
PC config
XP-M 2400+ @ 13x200 1.95vcore
2x512MB PC3200 ram 2.9v
Abit NF7-S rev2 agp voltage at 1.6v chipset at 1.7v
520watt aspire trinfan alu 36a @ 12v
and i got it yesterday
started out with newest forceware
then backed down to the ones that came with the card... then the 3dmark approved ones
i see upto 73c idle temps
:disgust: and with CB2.0 / rivatuner installed i also checked the "fan always on" since i found out it basicly turned itself off completely!!i even put every performance slider to highest performance still didnt help
the POV runs default (2D) at 400/1100 but 3D at 425/1100
i've tried to lower both but no change i still get 6-10 sec pauses and eventually a crash/reboot
with windows coming up saying the drivers made a booboo
considering returning it and getting a diff brand
but the POV was appealing pricewise... since i'll be getting awaterblock for it eventually
hope someone finds a clue to whats wrong at some point
PC config
XP-M 2400+ @ 13x200 1.95vcore
2x512MB PC3200 ram 2.9v
Abit NF7-S rev2 agp voltage at 1.6v chipset at 1.7v
520watt aspire trinfan alu 36a @ 12v
As an update, so far painkiller is the only game that i've had this in and i haven't tried it again with the newest forceware and directx9c.
this happens for me even playing counterstrike lol
researching bios's atm
seems pov has a new one out somewhere
researching bios's atm
seems pov has a new one out somewhere
Yea i just got a 6800u yesterday (pny) and i went to play farcry and sometimes it will lock up, my system certainly should not be bottlenecked anywhere <sata raid, 3800+ gig of quality memory> I'm pretty sure its a heat problem for me. My cpu was reading 61°c =\ after i was done
this happened to me in doom 3 until i lowered my video settings. However, in the past with less hardcore games, believe it or not, but spyware was causing the skips and pauses. Check for spyware with spy sweeper and adware. this problem might be that easy of a fix.
I have the answer !!!! TURN OFF FAST WRITES!!!! in the BIOS.
I gaurentee it will solve you stuttering problems.
I gaurentee it will solve you stuttering problems.
thought i found a solution but... i didnt
i had plugged dvi dongle and crt into DVI port nr2
but that wasnt it as i just had a freeze up
fast write suggestion seems valid...
i had plugged dvi dongle and crt into DVI port nr2
but that wasnt it as i just had a freeze up
fast write suggestion seems valid...
Gamingphreek
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Usually switching fast writes off will do it. However the problem you are having seems to be from a texture memory overflow. IE not enough texture memory so it is using the AGP Aperture. Either that or you have some open programs open in the background eatin' up CPU cycles and RAM.
-Kevin
-Kevin
Sentrosi2121
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Wierd glitch.
While playing Far Cry my system will completely shut itself off. When noticing the temps it is, on average, around 43c. I'm not 100% sure that the game is causing this, as I live in an area that is known to have occasional brown outs. Other games I play it runs fine. Just seems to happen with Far Cry.
System: Abit NF7-S w/ 2800+ running 1024 DDR333 and latest bios.
Video Card: Radeon 9800Pro running latest Catalyst drivers.
PSU: Antec 400w true power
While playing Far Cry my system will completely shut itself off. When noticing the temps it is, on average, around 43c. I'm not 100% sure that the game is causing this, as I live in an area that is known to have occasional brown outs. Other games I play it runs fine. Just seems to happen with Far Cry.
System: Abit NF7-S w/ 2800+ running 1024 DDR333 and latest bios.
Video Card: Radeon 9800Pro running latest Catalyst drivers.
PSU: Antec 400w true power
Gamingphreek
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Well when it "completely shuts off" do all the fans turn off as if you pulled the plug or do you get soundlooping, and the monitor goes into standby mode. Either one sounds like a memory problem or a driver problem.
Also what are your PSU readings?
-Kevin
Also what are your PSU readings?
-Kevin
Sentrosi2121
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It's just like I reached under my desk to pull the plug on my system. Everything shuts down, Monitor goes into standby and then it starts back up, as I have my bios set to revert to state it was in prior to the loss of power.
I will provide PSU readings when I get home, as I'm currently at work right now.
I'll blame the brownouts for that one. Get yourself a cheap UPS to smooth out the ripples.
- M4H
- M4H
I did not read the whole thread...so I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything. Turn off fast writes, make sure AGP voltage in system bios is set at 1.5 volts, if you are overclocking make sure 2d and 3d clock speeds are the same. Also make sure you have at least a gig of system RAM. I also believe that BFG is having throttleing issues that causes system freezes...I have no proof of that though...but it seems quite common though.:-( There might be a bios flash out there to solve this problem.
Turn off fast writes, make sure AGP voltage in system bios is set at 1.5 volts, if you are overclocking make sure 2d and 3d clock speeds are the same. Also make sure you have at least a gig of system RAM. I also believe that BFG is having throttleing issues that causes system freezes...I have no proof of that though...but it seems quite common though.:-( There might be a bios flash out there to solve this problem.It is not a heat related issues. Please check out these threads:
NV News Thread 1
NV News Thred 2
Make sure to set the coolbits overclock to the same setting in 2d and 3d. Most importantly, DISABLE fastwrites in your bios.
NV News Thread 1
NV News Thred 2
Make sure to set the coolbits overclock to the same setting in 2d and 3d. Most importantly, DISABLE fastwrites in your bios.
taken from a post on NV News forums
i have a PNY 6800 Ultra clocked @ 440 / 1200 whitout any problem.
Now if i clock the card at standard core e memory speed (400 - 1100) it just look up / freeze
I have contacted PNY and this is the answer :
"Dear costumers, the problem is the bios, the card is clocked at 400 mhz for core in 2D mode and at 425 in 3D, it's internal bios setting and the famous coolbit2 can't underclock your 3D mode, it still remaining a 425 also it's downclocked at 400 and the results are : 400 mhz 2D and 425 3D.
this settings are wrong and causes freezes and lockups.
I suggest you overclock your card at almost 430 mhz core speed in both 2D mode and 3D mode, in this case your result are : 430 / 430 in both mode and this settings are fine for all your games and application."
Best regards
Pny tecnical stuff Europe.
P.S. I hace traducted the answer from italian to english, so sorry for bad language.
hope this help someone.
^^
my card is clocked in the same fashion... tho 350/1ghz 2D and 425/1.1ghz 3D
gonna try 430/1.1ghz on both
i have a PNY 6800 Ultra clocked @ 440 / 1200 whitout any problem.
Now if i clock the card at standard core e memory speed (400 - 1100) it just look up / freeze
I have contacted PNY and this is the answer :
"Dear costumers, the problem is the bios, the card is clocked at 400 mhz for core in 2D mode and at 425 in 3D, it's internal bios setting and the famous coolbit2 can't underclock your 3D mode, it still remaining a 425 also it's downclocked at 400 and the results are : 400 mhz 2D and 425 3D.
this settings are wrong and causes freezes and lockups.
I suggest you overclock your card at almost 430 mhz core speed in both 2D mode and 3D mode, in this case your result are : 430 / 430 in both mode and this settings are fine for all your games and application."
Best regards
Pny tecnical stuff Europe.
P.S. I hace traducted the answer from italian to english, so sorry for bad language.
hope this help someone.
^^
my card is clocked in the same fashion... tho 350/1ghz 2D and 425/1.1ghz 3D
gonna try 430/1.1ghz on both
just wanted to also mention A HIGH QUALITY STABLE power supply will minimize system flakiness. It doesn't have to be high wattage, just able to provide STABLE voltages.... back in the day, when i switched to an Antec truepower 330watt power supply from an enlight pos 250watt, my system was MUCH more stable, no more flakiness, AND i gained ~20fps during games.. just something to keep in mind.
I don't know if someone already mentioned this(I don't feel like reading all these responses), but it could be you cd-rom drive. Do you hear constantly winding up and down. That can cause skipping.
Just an idea.
Just an idea.
I basically have the same system. AMD3200 OC from 2.2ghz to 2.5ghz. 1.5gb memory and now the BFG 6800GT. I notice long 10-15sec hangs in CounterStrike. I haven't been playing any other games besides Doom3 which it doesn't hang at all. Now I only notice those hang ups when I am overclocking the card and its during the warming part of the day, at nights its fine because of the cool air that blows through the system(tons of good air cooling). Now running my core at 400mhz I get those lock ups during the day about once every hour or so, when I put the speeds back to stock to see if its my system overclock it runs fine which leads me to believe its just to high of core clock on the card. Damn I so want to take off the cooler and make sure there is some good compound on the heatsink, I have seen far to many video cards that have much better overclockablity once there is a good solid heat transfer through some good compound.
my card did this as well till i eased up the overclock a little bit. This issue was posted when the 6800gt's were hitting the shelves. If its overclocked pretty well (like 420/1.2'ish) in the beginning of games it'll lockup for the 5-7 seconds or whatever it is and then continue after that. Its not a heat problem, its just something with the card and it being overclocked. IF you dont mind the pause, its doing no harm
Now this is odd because in Farcry I am getting the same problem every once in awhile.
The game will lockup for about 10 seconds. This also happens every once in awhile in BF:V
But in Farcry I could get it to happen almost everytime in the same hallway. It was a hallway in the carrier where there is steam coming out of a pipe.
How many of you are using A64s,FXs, or opertons?
One thing that I was baffled by was the cool 'n' quiet was throttling my cpu even during a game. Now I turned it off via the bios but I wonder if the driver I installed for it could be interfering?
P.S. I just checked my clock freqs on the card and the 2d and 3d are different clocks. I moved the 2d freq up and will see if the issue clears up.
The game will lockup for about 10 seconds. This also happens every once in awhile in BF:V
But in Farcry I could get it to happen almost everytime in the same hallway. It was a hallway in the carrier where there is steam coming out of a pipe.
How many of you are using A64s,FXs, or opertons?
One thing that I was baffled by was the cool 'n' quiet was throttling my cpu even during a game. Now I turned it off via the bios but I wonder if the driver I installed for it could be interfering?
P.S. I just checked my clock freqs on the card and the 2d and 3d are different clocks. I moved the 2d freq up and will see if the issue clears up.
alrighty after much research and feedback from point of view support themselves
I (and a bunch of other people on various forums) found out that the problem is the cards bios's!!
the problem bios for 6800GT/6800U (well UEE too but they not official as such yet) is 05.40.02.10.14
to find which you have enter display properties -> advanced -> first tab showing "Geforce 6800 Ultra"
then to your right you'll get the GPU type (processor) IRQ the card uses and the bios version!
if you have the 05.40.02.10.14 bios you need to either..
A: flash your card with a newer build
B: RMA/return your card and ask that the store do it
C: dont do anything if you're not having problems, but you might at some point so see A or B
before you go on to flash your bios, remember that unless you got the go ahead from say support group for your card (ie POV, MSI, ASUS, etc)
if you dont... there's a chance you'll void the warranty (see option B)
ALSO THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE OF A BAD FLASH
more about this at the bottom
on to the bios flashing
one place with tons of bios files = http://www.mvktech.net/download.php
browse it and find a bios with a newer version than your current
i chose the evga for my card ftp://evga.com/N345.exe
ofcourse its not the POV but the one they sent me was the one i already had lol
this file makes a bootable floppy disk that you run and just need to say yes to flash ("y")
uses nvflash 5.03 that kinda sux
the best flash tool according to most of the various forums i've visited in the search for a solution
seems to be NVflash 4.42 http://www.mvktech.net/download.php?view.41
so what i did was make the floppy with the evga bootmaker.
then i deleted the evga NVflash.exe and Cwsdpmi.exe
i then copied the 4.42 exe files over instead
this way tho the boot is completely automatic and you do NOT get a choice to flash or not
after that i edited the autoexec.bat in notepad and put
"nvflash -f n345.rom -2 -p -u" (without the " ") instead of what was there (diff commands for all versions of nvflash lol)
if you DL a different bios but also DL the bootloader from evga
all you need to do is either
A: change new bios filename to n345.rom
or
B: edit autoexec.bat and replace with your new filename (max 8 characters)
remember this way you do NOT get a chance to type yes! :clock: :clock:
then you just have to reboot set floppy as first boot and let it run
the num/caps/scroll lock lights will flash in order
once screen says its finished, press ctrl+alt+delete NOT! NOT! NOT! the reset button (dunno but i was told NOT too so DONT)
now if by any odd chance you should fail to flash your card (power hickup,lightning hits your case, cola tipped over and fell into it, cat pee'd on it etc)
or the bios you picked didnt work with your card
what you need to do is replace the bios file (if it flashed correctly but doesnt work)
then same procedure and thats where this way is better as you dont need to know when to press a key it will run and complete
tho takes 30 secs to a minute so a 5 min wait should be enough
a PCI card is ofcourse handy to have that way you can see what you're doing
thats about it
have a nice day
posting this as a new topic as well
I (and a bunch of other people on various forums) found out that the problem is the cards bios's!!
the problem bios for 6800GT/6800U (well UEE too but they not official as such yet) is 05.40.02.10.14
to find which you have enter display properties -> advanced -> first tab showing "Geforce 6800 Ultra"
then to your right you'll get the GPU type (processor) IRQ the card uses and the bios version!
if you have the 05.40.02.10.14 bios you need to either..
A: flash your card with a newer build
B: RMA/return your card and ask that the store do it
C: dont do anything if you're not having problems, but you might at some point so see A or B
before you go on to flash your bios, remember that unless you got the go ahead from say support group for your card (ie POV, MSI, ASUS, etc)
if you dont... there's a chance you'll void the warranty (see option B)
ALSO THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE OF A BAD FLASH
more about this at the bottom
on to the bios flashing
one place with tons of bios files = http://www.mvktech.net/download.php
browse it and find a bios with a newer version than your current
i chose the evga for my card ftp://evga.com/N345.exe
ofcourse its not the POV but the one they sent me was the one i already had lol
this file makes a bootable floppy disk that you run and just need to say yes to flash ("y")
uses nvflash 5.03 that kinda sux
the best flash tool according to most of the various forums i've visited in the search for a solution
seems to be NVflash 4.42 http://www.mvktech.net/download.php?view.41
so what i did was make the floppy with the evga bootmaker.
then i deleted the evga NVflash.exe and Cwsdpmi.exe
i then copied the 4.42 exe files over instead
this way tho the boot is completely automatic and you do NOT get a choice to flash or not
after that i edited the autoexec.bat in notepad and put
"nvflash -f n345.rom -2 -p -u" (without the " ") instead of what was there (diff commands for all versions of nvflash lol)
if you DL a different bios but also DL the bootloader from evga
all you need to do is either
A: change new bios filename to n345.rom
or
B: edit autoexec.bat and replace with your new filename (max 8 characters)
remember this way you do NOT get a chance to type yes! :clock: :clock:
then you just have to reboot set floppy as first boot and let it run
the num/caps/scroll lock lights will flash in order
once screen says its finished, press ctrl+alt+delete NOT! NOT! NOT! the reset button (dunno but i was told NOT too so DONT)
now if by any odd chance you should fail to flash your card (power hickup,lightning hits your case, cola tipped over and fell into it, cat pee'd on it etc)
or the bios you picked didnt work with your card
what you need to do is replace the bios file (if it flashed correctly but doesnt work)
then same procedure and thats where this way is better as you dont need to know when to press a key it will run and complete
tho takes 30 secs to a minute so a 5 min wait should be enough
a PCI card is ofcourse handy to have that way you can see what you're doing
thats about it
have a nice day
posting this as a new topic as well
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