Are liberals seceding from sanity?

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marincounty

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I love your thread title:" Are liberals seceding from sanity? "

That's rich, considering conservatives are talking about seceding from the Union.

"And it is only to be expected that people, black and white, who have been frozen out of politics by oligarchic elites will turn to flamboyant populist tribunes as their leaders, including theatrical preachers like Pat Robertson and Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton and Jerry Falwell. "

Utter BS, frozen out of politics, we've had Ronald Reagan, GHWB, and GWB (and McCain) all pursuing the southern strategy and pandering to the south.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
how about just seceding from the south.

now that sounds sane.

You know..I live in VA.

We have one of the largest tech sectors in the nation.

Don't want us? Fine. Ignorant people who think southern states contribute nothing to this country are baseless.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: Blackjack200
What? Is this really a forum post about an internet article about a blog post about an editorial? Jesus Fuckin Christ.

lol :beer:
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Are liberals seceding from sanity?

I am not thrilled with everything that Obama nd congress is doing either, but good grief man... there are currently 8 threads here started by you. Get a grip... the country voted, the dems won. Move on with your life.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
how about just seceding from the south.

now that sounds sane.

Hey, the South tried to separate and the North stopped it in its tracks. You had your chance, you're stuck with us. :p

Now how about some possum stew and moonshine!?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Will you stop with all the lefties are up in arms crap. I find PJ as rhetorically gifted as Obama and great fun to read. He has a nasty habit I recognize, the indifference to what other people think. I am absolutely convinced that his dedication to truth and logic will have him in no time at all swinging from my tree.

So far, you're really the only "leftie" to address the content of the OP, hats off to you my friend.
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
The south is a racist cesspool of ignorance and arrogance. I wouldn't have a problem with them seceding if I wasn't 100% sure that would immediately lead to modern jim crow laws.

That's funny, because I was born and raised in a backwoods Northeast Georgia town, and I know plenty of Damn Yankees (the kind that moves here, and won't leave) who are more racist than some people I grew up with. One of them in an Italian from Boston who drops "N" bombs every other word, and another is from Connecticut, and does the same thing. Want to make any more blanket statements?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
In a fox hole, I'll take a Southerner.

Because they can shoot the wings off a gnat at 100 yards or because they can "squeal like a pig"?? ;)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER

Topic Title: Are liberals seceding from sanity?
Topic Summary: The left is crazy to insult white Southerners as a group

Hell, no! We wouldn't dream of imposing on your monopoly on it. :laugh:
 

Andrew1990

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Both sides are loosing their sanity. They try to defend what their "leaders" do although the leaders are only looking out for themselves and close friends.

It would help if people actually used their minds and stopped backing up their parties plans to the death. Use what god/hindu god gave you.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Blackjack200
What? Is this really a forum post about an internet article about a blog post about an editorial? Jesus Fuckin Christ.
this thread should have ended after this post

oh my god how redunkulous this OP/editorial is.

so let me get this straight, kathleen parker and some bloke from mother jones poke fun at white southerners and all of the sudden librals are seceding from reality?

this is really stupid.
 

Lemon law

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Please do not confuse PJABBER with another poster calling himself Prof John. Although both seem to use the same type of FUD tactics, I have had the pleasure of seeing NON Prof John go from a endorsing member of the then GOP majority to a shell shocked loser as GOP fortunes have plummeted in then last two elections.

But I guess it goes to show, time heals all wounds and time wounds all heels.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
In a fox hole, I'll take a Southerner.

Because they can shoot the wings off a gnat at 100 yards or because they can "squeal like a pig"?? ;)

Those are valuable assets, I am sure, but for me it would be more about fidelity to the team. I see folk from the South as rather loyal to each other.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
In a fox hole, I'll take a Southerner.

Because they can shoot the wings off a gnat at 100 yards or because they can "squeal like a pig"?? ;)

Those are valuable assets, I am sure, but for me it would be more about fidelity to the team. I see folk from the South as rather loyal to each other.

This is true.
 

Lemon law

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As Moonbeam notes, "Those are valuable assets, I am sure, but for me it would be more about fidelity to the team. I see folk from the South as rather loyal to each other."

Or the alternative explanation that stupidity is a contagious disease.

 

monovillage

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Funny, but you guys do know that Hawaii is on or below the 20th parallel making it the southern most State? Not that i lend any credence to the idea that anyone born in the south is a friggin idiot.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: monovillage
Funny, but you guys do know that Hawaii is on or below the 20th parallel making it the southern most State? Not that i lend any credence to the idea that anyone born in the south is a friggin idiot.

We's real smart. Gots cypherin' and everything.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
In a fox hole, I'll take a Southerner.

Because they can shoot the wings off a gnat at 100 yards or because they can "squeal like a pig"?? ;)

Those are valuable assets, I am sure, but for me it would be more about fidelity to the team. I see folk from the South as rather loyal to each other.

You're doin' a heckuva job Brownie ;)
 

Mani

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You are expecting serious replies to a grade-A troll topic titled "are liberals seceding from sanity?"

By the way, there is a side that is babbling about death panels and foreign-born manchurian candidates while kungfu gripping their assault rifles, and it's not the liberals.
 

GuitarDaddy

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We are coming for your womenz, and your healthcare:evil:
visit the concentration camp or death panel near you!!!

Be afraid, be very very afraid
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
The south is a racist cesspool of ignorance and arrogance. I wouldn't have a problem with them seceding if I wasn't 100% sure that would immediately lead to modern jim crow laws.

Broad-brushing irony of the day?

Funny thing is that the goober doesn't even know that Dems spearheaded those laws.
 

PJABBER

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I am not surprised to see so many liberals in this forum failing to read or failing to understand the commentary of the author, himself a noted liberal commentator and researcher.

The great majority of the above commentary certainly confirms that the author is spot on in his examination of the bigotry and hubris of U.S. liberalism.

Let's take a look at another aspect of liberal bigotry in the following article by another distinguished scholar -

Politics and Blacks
Dr. Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, August 12, 2009

President Barack Obama won an unprecedented 96 percent of the black vote. That's not much of a news story since blacks typically give their votes to the Democratic candidate. Blacks are probably the most politically loyal people in the nation and it is almost taken as gospel, at least among civil rights organizations and black and white liberals, that the only way black people can make socioeconomic progress is through the politics of race and special government programs. However, such a vision can be subjected to empirical evidence.

In 1940, when blacks were politically impotent, their poverty rate was 87 percent. By 1960, before blacks achieved much political power, it fell to 47 percent. During that interval, in various skilled trades, the incomes of blacks relative to whites more than doubled. Before 1960, there were no anti-poverty programs or affirmative action programs that can explain an economic advance that exceeded any other 20-year interval, though there were Truman and Eisenhower administration attacks on some of the gross forms of racial discrimination.

A significant chunk of black progress occurred simply through migration from rural areas in the South to big Northern cities. Between 1960 and 1980, black poverty fell roughly 17 percent and continued falling to today's 24 percent. The decline in black poverty between 1960 and 1980 might have simply been a continuation of a trend starting much earlier and cannot be attributed solely to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, President Johnson's War on Poverty, or Richard Nixon's affirmative action.

Most of the major problems that many black people face are not amendable to political solutions and government anti-poverty programs. Let's look at some. In 1940, 86 percent of black children were born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate among blacks was about 15 percent. Today, only 35 percent of black children are born inside marriage, and the illegitimacy rate hovers around 70 percent.

Today's breakdown of the black family is unprecedented. It began in the 1960s with the War on Poverty and the harebrained ideas of the welfare state. In the mid-1960s, Daniel Moynihan sounded the alarm about the breakdown in the black family in his book "The Negro Family: The Case for National Action."

At that time black illegitimacy was 26 percent. Moynihan said, "(A)t the heart of the deterioration of the fabric of the Negro society is the deterioration of the Negro family." He added, "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

Moynihan's observations were greeted with charges of racism and blaming the victim. By the way, the welfare state is an equal opportunity family destroyer. Today's illegitimacy rate among whites, at nearly 30 percent, is higher than it was among blacks in the 1960s when Moynihan sounded the alarm. In Sweden, the mother of the welfare state, illegitimacy is 54 percent.

Blacks hold high offices and dominate the political arena in Philadelphia, Detroit, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., New Orleans and other cities. Yet these are the very cities with the nation's most rotten schools, highest crime rates, high illegitimacy rates, weak family structure and other forms of social pathology.

I am not saying that blacks having political power is the cause of these problems. What I am saying is that the solution to most of the major problems that confront many black people won't be found in the political arena and by electing more blacks to high office. In fact, politicians tend to be hostile to some of the solutions to problems many blacks face such as school choice as a means to strengthen education, the elimination of oppressive licensing restrictions for various occupations, and supportive of job-destroying labor legislation such as minimum wage laws.

The bottom line is there is very little evidence anywhere on the planet that political power is a necessary condition for economic power.

Walter E. Williams' Biography

Born in Philadelphia in 1936, Walter E. Williams holds a bachelor's degree in economics from California State University (1965) and a master's degree (1967) and doctorate (1972) in economics from the University of California at Los Angeles.

In 1980, he joined the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., and is currently the John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics. He has also served on the faculties of Los Angeles City College (1967-69), California State University (1967-1971) and Temple University (1973-1980). From 1963 to 1967, he was a group supervisor of juvenile delinquents for the Los Angeles County Probation Department.

More than 50 of his publications have appeared in scholarly journals such as Economic Inquiry, American Economic Review and Social Science Quarterly and popular publications such as Reader's Digest, The Wall Street Journal and Newsweek. He has made many TV and radio appearances on such programs as Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose," William F. Buckley's "Firing Line," "Face The Nation," "Nightline" and "Crossfire."

He is also the author of several books. Among these are The State Against Blacks, later made into a television documentary, America: A Minority Viewpoint, All It Takes Is Guts, and South Africa's War On Capitalism.
 

novasatori

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So polarized

Not surprising given most posts in P&N, but still shocking given the seemingly high intellectual levels of some posters.

I had more to post, but I don't want to offend anyone with my southern ignorance.