Are Liberals really closet racists?

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<< white men can jump just as high, dance just as well,... >>



<sigh> Josephstalinator, please tell me you're just yanking our collective chain right with these statements, and trying to get a reaction


i was being sarcastic. on average white guys cant jump as high or dance as well. you disagree??!!
 

Red Dawn

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<< there is discrimination by conservatives
such as...?
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The Klu Klux Klan hasn't any Black Members yet! I should have said that Whitey discriminates, not just conservatives (because there are Minorities that are conservative)
 

67gt500

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problem with the ACLU is that they are supposed to represent the entire America.

Regardless of political values or ideals. The fact that people here will come to their defense is just appalling.

If they want to be aholes they should take the A out of ACLU. Because they don't represent american values.. they represent their own.

By the way.. they are currently representing the group NAMBLA. the men boy love association.
 

67gt500

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The Klu Klux Klan hasn't any Black Members yet! I should have said that Whitey discriminates, not just conservatives (because there are Minorities that are conservative)

is the Ku Klux Klan supposed to represent american civil liberties? No. They are a hate group.

The ACLU has been respected for historical representation of civil liberties. Now they are on the same playing field as the KKK because they have been politicized by a group of people who in no way represent american values.

Quit trying to assault the people who are disgusted with them red dawn. It is really pointless.
 

67gt500

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This is what you did: A group of &quot;liberals&quot; (since you do not know they are liberals and just assume so also speaks volumes; nowhere in the article does it say that the persons making derogatory comments about Thomas are Liberal) speak out against Clarence Thomas. You paint all liberals with the same brush, and accuse us of being racist! There is zero evidence that all liberals feel the same way about Clarence Thomas, but you want to think that we do. This points directly at your own preconcieved notions about a group of people that are not based on fact--i.e. racism. The fact that you are so quick to paint all liberals as &quot;racist&quot; speaks far more about your attitudes than it does about ours.

He never said all liberals... the only liberals painted with this brush are the ones that find themselves agreeing with the comments. Is reading hard? .. and the ACLU is notoriously a liberal with interpretation of law and government involvement in people's lives.

And reference to him as an Uncle Tom is most definitely a mention of his race. Unless you haven't read a book for the last 50 years. Which given your recent postings wouldn't at all suprise me.

 

Red Dawn

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<< is the Ku Klux Klan supposed to represent american civil liberties >>

No, did I ever say there were asshole? Uncle Joe wanted to know what conservative group discriminated against minorities and I pointed out the obvious to him. Sure they aren't mainstream(well not in California) but they are conservative.




<< Quit trying to assault the people who are disgusted with them red dawn. It is really pointless >>

Well I'd like to see your point of View 67gt500 but I can't stick my head that far up my ass.
 

67gt500

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Red Dawn there are legitimate arguments by real liberals on this issue.. please do not cloud the issue with your lunacy.
 

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The ACLU has defended the American Nazi Party's right to march on streets before.

Does that make them closet right-wing extremeists?

I would say not.

I hate gross generalizations. Usually made by people with no real clue about what they are talking about.
 

67gt500

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Ferocious

the gross generalizations are founded by comments like these. Clarence Thomas is a member of the highest court in our land... somehow the meaning of that gets lost in the flames.

The ACLU is supposed to represent fights for civil liberties in this country.. a black member of the supreme court should be considered one of the highest achievements civil rights has ever made.
 

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<< The ACLU has defended the American Nazi Party's right to march on streets before.

Does that make them closet right-wing extremeists?
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Let's not get organizations confused with the people who comprise them. I have no problem with the ACLU or its causes per se, but rather with some of the people in the organization and their own words. Again, let me repeat, i have no problem whatsoever with people disagreeing with Justice Thomas, or feeling that he should not be extended an invitation to an ACLU debate. They are a private organization, free to invite or exclude whomever they wish as a guest debater.

However, what i think is completely wrong and deserves scorn, is that they framed their opposition to Justice Thomas with what i feel is a racist undertone. Obviously, holding that AA is a bad policy does not serve as an automatic disqualifier from attending, as Justice Scalia's appearance shows. It is only if you are a black man, and hold the same views, that you are unwelcome. You can couch it in all the nice ways you want, saying it's a simple difference of opinion and such, but the clear intent is there, IMHO.

Let's turn the situation around. Let's say instead of an ACLU invitation to Clarence Thomas, it was a Heritage Foundation invitation to Louis Farrakhan. You're telling me that if Heritage members agitated against Farrakhan's appearance, and used similar statements (change &quot;black Uncle Tom&quot; to &quot;black apologist for the Holocaust&quot;, 'anti-Christ', Hitler) would you not say that was inappropriate and racial in nature? I would, and in this case, i do.
 

Red Dawn

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<< Red Dawn there are legitimate arguments by real liberals on this issue.. please do not cloud the issue with your lunacy >>

You know what dickhead, I was just replying to Uncle Joe. I didn't address it to &quot;Some Motherfscker who thinks he's Sh!t&quot; or &quot;A Contrary Piece of Garbage&quot; so it wasn't addressed to you. It's no wonder some one kicked the hell out of you and broke your arm. Give me his address so I can send him a $10.00 for a job well done.
 

67gt500

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I suppose the only reason your name calling and other filth is allowed to remain is because your collective waste of a being has been here for years accumulating thousands of posts.

Well done. From what others have said you going personal should be considered a sign that you have nothing of substance to offer.

I'd hate to be a liberal in these forums that actually has a brain and applies logic to substantive replies.. because you give them a bad name. A very bad name.

 

Red Dawn

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<< . From what others have said you going personal should be considered a sign that you have nothing of substance to offer >>

What makes you think your posts have substance? You never post anything that is even remotely interesting even though you try about 50 times a day. While I might not post anything substantive I also don't pretend too. You on the other hand think what you have to say is meaningful which it isn't



<< I'd hate to be a liberal in these forums that actually has a brain and applies logic to substantive replies.. because you give them a bad name. A very bad name >>

The trouble with that statement you idiot is that I'm not a liberal.The fact that I think the Republicans are hypocrites and that you are a Thick Headed Self Important Blow Hard(and popular at the Turkish Bathhouses) makes me perceptive, not Liberal.
 

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<< The trouble with that statement you idiot is that I'm not a liberal >>



Yeah...and Bill Clinton doesn't like fat interns.
 

67gt500

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What makes you think your posts have substance?

The fact that other people not named Red Dawn post with substantive replies and we engage in long conversations.


You never post anything that is even remotely interesting even though you try about 50 times a day. While I might not post anything substantive I also don't pretend too. You on the other hand think what you have to say if meaningful which it isn't


Why don't you ask Pyro that. We had a pretty good conversation about the Kosovo conflict the other night.



The trouble with that statement you idiot is that I'm not a liberal.

Can you say anything without calling someone names? You are a liberal. You just choose not to accept the title.


The fact that I think the Republicans are hypocrites and that you are a Thick Headed Self Important Blow Hard(and popular at the Turkish Bathhouses) makes me perceptive, not Liberal.


If I had to cite an example I would say that your support of price caps during the energy crisis is evidence in and of itself that you have liberal leanings.


I'll be waiting for your next series of letters and words put into a sentence with a few derogatory comments attached. I like debating people here and listening to other opinions whether I agree or disagree.. but talking to self righteous aholes like yourself with a complex the size of the state you reside in is fruitless. Just rack up another 15,000 posts and find someone else to call names.
 

Red Dawn

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<< Yeah...and Bill Clinton doesn't like fat interns. >>

Hey a little flour and Fat Interns can be fun.

67gt500, this thread is about statements that the vast majority of Americans will never read and those who do will just ignore as complete Bullsh!t (just like your posts) To label a group on account of that statement is ridiculous and to argue about it is a complete waste of bandwidth. Those statements were made by individuals who obviously have a hard on for Justice Thomas as anybody who isn't busy examining the walls of their lower intestine would see.
 

67gt500

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Those statements were made by a group of individuals who are part of an organization which represents 300 million people's civil liberties.

It is appalling.

My posts are not BS.

 

Red Dawn

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<< If I had to cite an example I would say that your support of price caps during the energy crisis is evidence in and of itself that you have liberal leanings. >>

There are certain things that I agree with the liberals about and there are certain things that I agree with the Consevatives about. I don't follow one group come hell or high water. To do so would be to give up my independent thought. In fact I am a Registered Independent.

Regarding the Price Caps, well I guess FERC is a Liberal Agency too because they just instituted Price Ceilings because they too realized that we were being gouged. Now I don't normally support Price Caps but when there is evidence of Collusion in an Industry to reap Higher profits I believe in the Law and the Law states that when that happens the Government is to step in and put an end to it.

Tell me, what Liberals do you know that supports the Death Penalty? Well I do. Tell me, what Liberal supports the Federal Government handing over total Control of the Schools to the State each resides in? I do.What Liberal believes the Welfare should be abolished and replaced with a form of Workfare? I do. In fact I'm more of a Centrist Libertarian than I am a Republican or a Democrat.I'll admit that I don't trust Big Business, but I also don't trust our Federal Government. I do believe that each State should have more Autonomy (Probably because I live in California and we need less Federal Handouts than most of the other States)I also blame the Power Situation here in California equally on the Republicans and the Democrats. The tree Huggers are the reason we don't have enough power and that Asshole Pete Wilson(Our Republican Governor at the time) just exacerbated the situation by forcing through Deregulation of the Public Utilities.

Guys like you choose a side to take and you stand fast. You never question what your handlers tell you and you go on and on with your blustery Rhetoric without even giving it a second thought. At least the Liberals for the most part are some what flexible. You guys are about as close minded as they get. In fact it was the same type of loyalty to a Political agenda that enabled Adolph Hitler to rise to Power in 1930's Germany.
 

Red Dawn

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<< Those statements were made by a group of individuals who are part of an organization which represents 300 million people's civil liberties. >>

Those statements were made by Liberal Lawyers that have their heads in the clouds. They are no different that College Professors who talk about how things should be without realizing that because of human nature what they say isn't realistic.

 

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Red Dawn, you ain't being gouged on your utilities. That's what we pay here in the south too.
 

przero

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Classy, I am a small business owner. Exactly what makes you or anyone else think that you have a right to tell me who to hire! If I want to hire a white guy, black guy, asian, etc. that's my choice. Usually based on making a profit. If you or anyone else want to legislate hiring practices, then legislate chipping in on my losses. If you want to be a partner, i.e. tell me who to hire, then you'll be a partner for the losses I(we) sustain when I have to hire a lesser qualified applicant. Sad to say, but we are just dragging down America.
Having said that, My most trusted,loyal, and PROFITABLE employee(Also the highest paid)was hired years ago. He did not require AA to get the job and he will not require it in the future.
 

67gt500

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Regarding the Price Caps, well I guess FERC is a Liberal Agency too because they just instituted Price Ceilings because they too realized that we were being gouged. Now I don't normally support Price Caps but when there is evidence of Collusion in an Industry to reap Higher profits I believe in the Law and the Law states that when that happens the Government is to step in and put an end to it.

This is what the judicial process is for. To hold violators of the law accountable. Price caps have never helped our economy in any given situation. They have only caused problems.

Tell me, what Liberals do you know that supports the Death Penalty?

Al Gore.

Well I do. Tell me, what Liberal supports the Federal Government handing over total Control of the Schools to the State each resides in?

Breaux

I do.What Liberal believes the Welfare should be abolished and replaced with a form of Workfare?

City Council in NY which is already instituting it.

I do. In fact I'm more of a Centrist Libertarian than I am a Republican or a Democrat.I'll admit that I don't trust Big Business, but I also don't trust our Federal Government.

Are you self employed?

I do believe that each State should have more Autonomy (Probably because I live in California and we need less Federal Handouts than most of the other States)I also blame the Power Situation here in California equally on the Republicans and the Democrats. The tree Huggers are the reason we don't have enough power and that Asshole Pete Wilson(Our Republican Governor at the time) just exacerbated the situation by forcing through Deregulation of the Public Utilities.

Wilson was so convincing that he had people on both sides of the aisle believing deregulating half the industry was a good idea. I blame the people that elected the morons.

Guys like you choose a side to take and you stand fast. You never question what your handlers tell you and you go on and on with your blustery Rhetoric without even giving it a second thought.

I don't have any handlers and if I do I'm not familiar with them. I have conservative leanings, I'm not a Republican.


At least the Liberals for the most part are some what flexible. You guys are about as close minded as they get. In fact it was the same type of loyalty to a Political agenda that enabled Adolph Hitler to rise to Power in 1930's Germany.


Flexible? Did you read the article that began this thread.. in its entirety?

And it has been total government intrusion which the liberal democrats in this country are advocating which led to the rising of men such as Hitler and Stalin.



 
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<< Both have done interviews and said some things that really I just don't even want to get into. Lott? How much more proof do you need than the man doing interviews for an outright clearly racist magazine. And he is also very much in favor of having the Confederate flag fly. You guys either deny or explain away these men's actions as just being a differing opinion when it clearly goes far beyond that. >>



Are you one of those misguided individuals that still thinks the Civil War was fought soley over the slavery issue? The slavery issue was brought in later, to up the ante.