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Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm against waterboarding, and I long ago agreed that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. The difference is that I'm willing to put in whatever effort is necessary to fix what we've broken over there.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
So says the Bush supporter who backed everything Bush did, including torture.
Whereas shira blatantly admitted that they could care less if a POTUS has integrity and character -- which, by any measure, is fvcking disgusting.
posted by palehorse74 on 10/27/2006
If the federal government has reasonable cause to believe that anyone in my immediate family is conspiring to commit terrorist acts against other Americans or American interests/property, then they have my blessings to waterboard the hell out of them! In fact, I'd get in line to help!
The point is that I'm not one of the tinfoil crowd who believes that the Federal government goes around using this every day on innocent people; second, and perhaps more importantly, I do not feel that waterboarding as inhumane.
ps: what the hell do you know about interogation? let me guess, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
I made the changes in both positions very clear several months ago. I wrestled with both of them for several years. Being VERY close to both issues, personally, made the decisions much much harder than they might have been for the shleps who spend their lives playing Monday-morning QB with counterterrorism.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm against waterboarding, and I long ago agreed that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. The difference is that I'm willing to put in whatever effort is necessary to fix what we've broken over there.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
So says the Bush supporter who backed everything Bush did, including torture.
Whereas shira blatantly admitted that they could care less if a POTUS has integrity and character -- which, by any measure, is fvcking disgusting.
By supporting GWB and his "stay the course" strategy as long as you did you have amply demonstrated to me how important "integrity" is to you.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ab=arc&highlight_key=y
posted by palehorse74 on 10/27/2006
If the federal government has reasonable cause to believe that anyone in my immediate family is conspiring to commit terrorist acts against other Americans or American interests/property, then they have my blessings to waterboard the hell out of them! In fact, I'd get in line to help!
The point is that I'm not one of the tinfoil crowd who believes that the Federal government goes around using this every day on innocent people; second, and perhaps more importantly, I do not feel that waterboarding as inhumane.
ps: what the hell do you know about interogation? let me guess, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
You just seem to go with whatever way the wind is blowing that day, don't you.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I made the changes in both positions very clear several months ago. I wrestled with both of them for several years. Being VERY close to both issues, personally, made the decisions much much harder than they might have been for the shleps who spend their lives playing Monday-morning QB with counterterrorism.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm against waterboarding, and I long ago agreed that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. The difference is that I'm willing to put in whatever effort is necessary to fix what we've broken over there.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
So says the Bush supporter who backed everything Bush did, including torture.
Whereas shira blatantly admitted that they could care less if a POTUS has integrity and character -- which, by any measure, is fvcking disgusting.
By supporting GWB and his "stay the course" strategy as long as you did you have amply demonstrated to me how important "integrity" is to you.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ab=arc&highlight_key=y
posted by palehorse74 on 10/27/2006
If the federal government has reasonable cause to believe that anyone in my immediate family is conspiring to commit terrorist acts against other Americans or American interests/property, then they have my blessings to waterboard the hell out of them! In fact, I'd get in line to help!
The point is that I'm not one of the tinfoil crowd who believes that the Federal government goes around using this every day on innocent people; second, and perhaps more importantly, I do not feel that waterboarding as inhumane.
ps: what the hell do you know about interogation? let me guess, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
You just seem to go with whatever way the wind is blowing that day, don't you.
I was for waterboarding and the war before I was against them.
GG.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I made the changes in both positions very clear several months ago. I wrestled with both of them for several years. Being VERY close to both issues, personally, made the decisions much much harder than they might have been for the shleps who spend their lives playing Monday-morning QB with counterterrorism.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm against waterboarding, and I long ago agreed that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. The difference is that I'm willing to put in whatever effort is necessary to fix what we've broken over there.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
So says the Bush supporter who backed everything Bush did, including torture.
Whereas shira blatantly admitted that they could care less if a POTUS has integrity and character -- which, by any measure, is fvcking disgusting.
By supporting GWB and his "stay the course" strategy as long as you did you have amply demonstrated to me how important "integrity" is to you.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ab=arc&highlight_key=y
posted by palehorse74 on 10/27/2006
If the federal government has reasonable cause to believe that anyone in my immediate family is conspiring to commit terrorist acts against other Americans or American interests/property, then they have my blessings to waterboard the hell out of them! In fact, I'd get in line to help!
The point is that I'm not one of the tinfoil crowd who believes that the Federal government goes around using this every day on innocent people; second, and perhaps more importantly, I do not feel that waterboarding as inhumane.
ps: what the hell do you know about interogation? let me guess, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
You just seem to go with whatever way the wind is blowing that day, don't you.
I was for waterboarding and the war before I was against them.
GG.
Gee, it seems you've been wrong about everything!?!??
So that now we've established tendency for flip-flopping I have to ask myself how many months it will be before you "flip" on Obama and leave him high and dry with no support for change.
I can really see you, Pabster, Vic, and Moonbeam agreeing on the need for change, but when it comes down to exactly what needs changed and how it needs changed,..... well that's going to be comical to watch.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I made the changes in both positions very clear several months ago. I wrestled with both of them for several years. Being VERY close to both issues, personally, made the decisions much much harder than they might have been for the shleps who spend their lives playing Monday-morning QB with counterterrorism.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'm against waterboarding, and I long ago agreed that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake. The difference is that I'm willing to put in whatever effort is necessary to fix what we've broken over there.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
So says the Bush supporter who backed everything Bush did, including torture.
Whereas shira blatantly admitted that they could care less if a POTUS has integrity and character -- which, by any measure, is fvcking disgusting.
By supporting GWB and his "stay the course" strategy as long as you did you have amply demonstrated to me how important "integrity" is to you.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ab=arc&highlight_key=y
posted by palehorse74 on 10/27/2006
If the federal government has reasonable cause to believe that anyone in my immediate family is conspiring to commit terrorist acts against other Americans or American interests/property, then they have my blessings to waterboard the hell out of them! In fact, I'd get in line to help!
The point is that I'm not one of the tinfoil crowd who believes that the Federal government goes around using this every day on innocent people; second, and perhaps more importantly, I do not feel that waterboarding as inhumane.
ps: what the hell do you know about interogation? let me guess, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
You just seem to go with whatever way the wind is blowing that day, don't you.
I was for waterboarding and the war before I was against them.
GG.
Gee, it seems you've been wrong about everything!?!??
So that now we've established tendency for flip-flopping I have to ask myself how many months it will be before you "flip" on Obama and leave him high and dry with no support for change.
I can really see you, Pabster, Vic, and Moonbeam agreeing on the need for change, but when it comes down to exactly what needs changed and how it needs changed,..... well that's going to be comical to watch.
As a private citizen, their are no repercussions for my own flip-floppery.
The same cannot be said of Ms. Clinton and Co.
My support for Obama will hold fast only as long as his character and integrity do the same.
I think both would deserve ridicule if/when the flip-floppery occurs on nearly a daily basis.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yes, private citizens are the only ones who can change their minds. You really think anybody worth convincing believes that?
DOH! that was below the belt... :|Face the facts, political integrity is as much an oxymoron as senate ethics or military intelligence.
that's just... sad.From my POV shira has more integrity then you because he was honest about it. You on the other hand are no better then the politicians you accuse of making decisions based solely on the what the latest polls say.
You value big corporations and NAFTA? because that is exactly what Hillary gets done.Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
huh?Originally posted by: TheSlamma
You value big corporations and NAFTA? because that is exactly what Hillary gets done.Originally posted by: palehorse74
Clinton Supporter Poster Children, Exhibit A:
:Q:Q:QOriginally posted by: shira
I really don't care about integrity and character in a President. What I want is a President who can actually accomplish some of the things I value, by hook or by crook.
Originally posted by: Pabster
Hillary and her surrogates/minions will stop at nothing in their pursuit of power.
Obama's advisor Powers was 100% accurate in describing Hillary as a 'monster' regardless of political correctness.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I think both would deserve ridicule if/when the flip-floppery occurs on nearly a daily basis.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Yes, private citizens are the only ones who can change their minds. You really think anybody worth convincing believes that?
DOH! that was below the belt... :|Face the facts, political integrity is as much an oxymoron as senate ethics or military intelligence.
I think Obama may be the exception to the rule. I've seen no evidence, yet, to believe otherwise. Hillary, on the other hand, is quite flagrant with her deceit.
that's just... sad.From my POV shira has more integrity then you because he was honest about it. You on the other hand are no better then the politicians you accuse of making decisions based solely on the what the latest polls say.